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denlm In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 10:48:00 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, Brooke. I have no idea where the original critique went.
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medreaming [2010-04-11 17:51:25 +0000 UTC]
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First of all, congrats on the DD! This is a great opening chapter that utterly deserves it. The very beginning draws the reader in, and tells you a lot about the character right away; the end leaves a bunch of good questions hanging that make the reader want to read more. Lorin's emotions while taking pictures are shown extraordinarily clearly, and you utilize the show-don't-tell principle well. A captivating first chapter to what is sure to be a brilliant full-length novel.
A few things could use improvement, however. The section where you say "She had only a heartbeat of time to grab the camera off the passenger seat, stand up through the sunroof of her Firebird, and start shooting" makes it sound like she's already done so, but then you go on to describe her grabbing her camera as if she hasn't yet. It's a bit confusing. You could fix that sentence that's copy-pasted here and fix that effect; for example, say something about how she considers this to be a great moment for pictures, or how she wants to take pictures right away.
Another instance of conflicting statements here would be the memory of the previous "fortunate" incidents where Lorin has her camera ready to capture destruction. "Though Lorin would not note the similarities until later, this was just like the afternoon..." and "Of course, he had been wrong. The man hadn’t foreseen a morning nine months later..." one gives the impression that Lorin isn't really aware of these "coincidences," the other one gives the impression that she does.
One more thing that you could do to make this a bit better is the mention of Lorin hearing the people's thoughts. You put it at the end, but mentioning it earlier would make that section so much better.
Overall, though, this is a brilliant piece. I really enjoyed reading this and am greatly looking forward to seeing future installments. With just a few things fixed, this piece would be incredibly amazing. e.deviantart.net/emoticons/c/c… " width="20" height="20" alt="" title="Clap"/>
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denlm In reply to medreaming [2010-04-11 18:27:09 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the in-depth review. I always appreciate knowing how certain things grab (or don't grab) the reader. I have worked on this section a third time since posting it here on dA, and I did adjust a couple of the things you mentioned. I did not notice the confusion about her grabbing the camera, however, but will look into that now. There is no such thing as too much feedback!
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Penfury [2018-09-22 03:40:30 +0000 UTC]
First things, (Or was it an axel grinding against a wedge of concrete) axle. Don't know how I missed that before. Should this be 2 words? forevermore.
Your hook works. Even after reading 5 or 6 times and again today, it still grabs your attention and draws you into the scene. Lorin sounds like the spoiled, arrogant child she is. My first thought when she recited her photo victories was that someone was setting her up. (Both now and on the first read) Maybe because I have read the first book, maybe because there are no coincidences. The description of the photo stills is chilling. Is that the right word? I'm not sure. It makes you think, reflect on what the stills do not show. The winners and losers. The last lines in particular imply there will be conflict. You raise all the right questions. Who is this woman shooting photos instead of freaking out or helping? What can she do if the people 'wait a minute'? What would her mother be doing? Why did the bridge fall? Why is she so 'lucky'? Even knowing the story, I am drawn to the next section.
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denlm In reply to Penfury [2018-09-24 12:55:19 +0000 UTC]
Damn... axel. Lol. Just goes to show you can never proofread too much. Thanks for the in depth review. Will say more later when I am back in town and on my old schedule again. 😀
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denlm [2018-09-15 19:22:27 +0000 UTC]
Testing.
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LunaticStar [2018-08-08 17:41:45 +0000 UTC]
Re-reading! It's smooth, I like it a lot, I feel the suspense for sure. I feel like I missed where it said WHAT the disaster was caused by. It doesn't seem like info that needs to be held back, or I am blind, idk!
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denlm In reply to LunaticStar [2018-08-08 21:47:33 +0000 UTC]
Actually, I never say, on purpose. I want it to seem as though something or someone did a psychic number on it. Also, this is based on a true event: the collapse of the I35 bridge over the Mississippi here in the Twin Cities. The cause was poor engineering and/or badly sourced materials, plus metal fatigue caused by age and heavy traffic. It was being refurbished when the collapse occurred. There was a school bus on it at the time too. The number of deaths and the date are accurate. The cottage explosion and the crane collapse are also based on true events.
I read this chapter at a writers roundtable a couple of months ago, and everyone at the table recognized it. I think I sold a couple of ebooks that night. lol. I love that you are rereading. You have a great and critical eye. I know I can rely on you to spot problems, which I am sure will crop up since I had so many long pauses between writing sessions. I mean, years long! Yikes. Thank you.
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LunaticStar In reply to denlm [2018-08-09 03:39:24 +0000 UTC]
Okay, that's what I thought. I understand it being mysterious, and totally support that. I still harbor my crit of perhaps she can mentally think, "it doesn't matter how it happened, because it's all bout the likes in istagram" ( just kidding ). But that's just my crit, and I realize that what I say is stuff how I'D like to write it. Not knowing didn't hamper the enjoyment by any means, just left a little bit of a mental void, because I'm an inattentive reader sometimes. kisskiss
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denlm In reply to LunaticStar [2018-08-09 12:16:01 +0000 UTC]
It's a valid crit. I shouldn't assume that the reader knows about this event in real time. And it would be a very simple fix. I'm going to add it to my list of updates. Thanks! Oh, and for the record, just as the first novel took place in the 80s, this novel takes place in the early 21st-century. No Instagram. LOL.
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LunaticStar In reply to denlm [2018-08-10 06:12:08 +0000 UTC]
Insta-gra-sarcasm wahhhhhhhhh
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kaze-bara [2012-02-03 02:40:04 +0000 UTC]
Hey! Remember me? I'm easing myself back to life here on dA, and I couldn't help but remember you'd been working on a sequel. I'm joining this party a little late, but I think I'm going to enjoy it. All I can say is: wow. Way to start off with a bang! I love Lorin already. Hmm, I can't imagine who the other psy is, though, unless Dina counts. Maybe I need to refresh my memory on Fellowship of Psys.
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denlm In reply to kaze-bara [2012-02-04 00:18:46 +0000 UTC]
I do, I do. Glad to have you back. Don't worry about the "other psy". There will be lots of them in this novel. Enjoy the ride... or should I have said that considering what happened in this chapter?
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kaze-bara In reply to denlm [2012-02-04 00:44:15 +0000 UTC]
Ha! Well, wild rides are the best kind. Hmm, I'm really starting to think I should re-read the first novel though. It's been a few years...
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KippoTec [2012-02-02 05:48:34 +0000 UTC]
Woah, I didn't know you got a Daily Deviation on here too! Wow, I think I've only ever seen one other deviant that's gotten two. It's totally awesome that you're a writer with two DDs as well. Good to see at least some people still check out the lit section here on dA. I'd love to get a DD on my writing one day...
Okay, really, since this has already gotten such good (and quite a few, it looks like!) reviews, I figure I won't spend a lot of time critiquing this. Looks like you've gotten a lot of input on this chapter, my services of opinion must be required elsewhere.
I'll just say that I loved the first few lines; all those "shoots" made me smile. I understood perfectly her frantic train of thought right as it happened. Sometimes you find yourself in an ohcrap situation, and you catch yourself saying the weirdest stuff. Falling down a cliff, only thing you can think to say is "lol whoops", then realizing that's stupid and resort to screaming one loud "fuck" all the way down. Sounds much cooler.
Funny how in the most extremes of situations, there are certain trivial or odd things we're still conscious of. Another of these is Lorin's professional attitude. Even while her car is like hanging off a broken bridge, she sees opportune photography moments. (btw I love how you described the art of photography here)
I would have gotten the hell out of that thing, and then noped all the way back home. Screw the camera. Screw everything. The bridge just collapsed. I'm out of there.
Also; "Caw. Caw. Boom."
I'm sorry but I lol'd so hard. That shit's signature material.
So like, this is part of a series, eh? Dohoho, would it be wise to go back to the first book and read it before I keep going here? Certainly sounds interesting, and I'll be nomming on bits of this story whenever I get the chance to. It's delicious. Like tang and slim jims and reece's cups. Mmmm.
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denlm In reply to KippoTec [2012-02-02 12:42:15 +0000 UTC]
You and my daughter glomped on the same line. She told me tears fell as she laughed over that darn crow!
I'm pleased you enjoyed this piece. I like to think you can read the Fellowship stories out of order and still enjoy them as individual works, but a few folks have gotten halfway through Fellowship Lost and decided to read Fellowship of Psys so they had more insider information about the older characters. I leave it up to you. Both books are in my gallery or you can buy Fellowship of Psys in print or digital edition on www.lulu.com. If you want a direct link and a discount, let me know. I can work something out for you.
I am ridiculously proud of my DDs--they have my head blown up all out of proportion. Two weeks after I joined dA, I received one of deviantART's early "Unknow Artist of the Month" designations for the first chapter of Fellowship of Psys. (They don't give UAMs anymore). Then over the years I've been lucky to get DDs on the prologue to jon.com, this first chapter of Fellowship Lost, on my short story Ahren's Gift, and on the first chapter of my novel Deja Few (written under a pen name of Jonanthan Smythe on my other dA page ). I've been damn lucky to get such notice... and with all the great writers on dA, don't I know it!
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KippoTec In reply to denlm [2012-02-07 06:25:39 +0000 UTC]
Self-contained works that are still part of a series, I see. Okay, cool. I'll keep reading, and if my curiosity gets the better of me I'll simply bounce around. Maybe read both at the same time. It's what I do.
Oh wow, I'd love to support you in some monetary way if I could! You've helped me so much through my own writing, and I know you don't have much time to spare for it, either. Unfortunately, I don't have a means to actually pay for the book at this point in time, but I've been talking with my parents about opening a line of credit to use to buy various things I come across online. Or I can just wait half a year for when I'm 18 and can get my own cards. XD
You.
You have four DD's.
I didn't even know that was possible.
You're officially the most accomplished writer (and actually, active deviant) that I've come across on this site!
Holy shit I'm a little jealous now.
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denlm In reply to KippoTec [2012-02-11 00:45:59 +0000 UTC]
You have to keep me posted as to which one you are reading and what you think. I'll cry if you don't. (You didn't know I was so needy, did you? Lol.)
If and when you are ready to by any of my books (which by the way have details in them that never were posted on dA), let me know. I'll get a discount code for you.
Jealousy is not allowed. I've been on this site for six or seven years now, I think. Even a blind man can peck out a story that works if given enough time. In fact, the average number of unpublished novels that are under the bed gathering dust before a writer finally gets his or her big break? Four.
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denlm In reply to KippoTec [2012-02-17 01:42:23 +0000 UTC]
An even more interesting fact for me is the number of pulished writers who wrote in other genres under assumed names before becoming mega authors. Stephen King, of course, who wrote as Richard Bachmann. But my favorite is Anne Rice (Interview with the Vampire), who wrote some VERY racy erotica under the name A.N. Roquelaure.
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KippoTec In reply to denlm [2012-02-17 06:08:44 +0000 UTC]
Haha, I've always wondered why authors seem to like using pen names. I've never really understood it, but maybe I should give it a shot. Writing under another identity might give me a fresh mindset into some aspects that I might not otherwise see.
Plus, I can write a little more...hehe, liberally, in certain things that I probably wouldn't want associated with my real name. XD
/creates another dA account using assumed names
/starts posting story bits there
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denlm In reply to KippoTec [2012-02-17 11:43:33 +0000 UTC]
That is precisely why I wrote jon.com under the name Jonathan Smythe. My Fellowship series and other "milder" stories attract a younger audience. I didn't want kidlettes picking up jon.com by D.L. Meyer and thinking "cool", I'll try this one.
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KippoTec In reply to denlm [2012-02-18 00:23:08 +0000 UTC]
Psh, and you have a reputation influential enough that you would actually require a separate name to use for other works! Nobody's heard of me yet so I guess it doesn't make a difference. I still may use a pen-name at some point. Dynamo McSlasher sounds pretty boss, I think.
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denlm In reply to KippoTec [2012-02-18 00:51:29 +0000 UTC]
Aw, be subtle. How about Mo Lasher? Then those of us in the know can smile when we see it and snicker at those who don't get the inside joke.
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Lady-Shade [2011-10-25 04:31:13 +0000 UTC]
First off, I have to say I'm not the best critic-er out there. But I'll do my best. Secondly, I just finished Fellowship and was blown away, found a few mistakes in wording or grammar that if you'd like to know, just email me. Third, since I did just finish Fellowship like a day ago to have the sequel -- or most of it -- at my fingertips is great. One of the perks for knowing the writer, right?
Now, as for the opening of the sequel with the events of book 1 still fresh, it took a split moment to realize who this Lorin was. But when I did I was fist pumpin' the air and mentally going, "Oh yeah!" However I didn't have to know who Lorin was, even before reading the slipped in hint about Mama Di, to get into this. The beginning was a bit confusing, had to read the first few paragraphs a second time but when I got past it to where you started talking about the collapsed bring I did figure out what was going on.
The action was amazing, like still shots. Even Lorin seems to be caught up in the images. One shot over here and Lorin pushing voices away. Snap! Another of the mushroom cloud of dust and Lorin thinking of Mama Di. Snap! Unique but effective. And it had me wondering about the other situations Lorin was able to capture, coincidence or meant to be?
Lorin has an amazing voice herself. Different from her mother's, or grandfather's, or even her father's but still, there are vague hints to those people in the chapter. More of a feel of her family history than an actual slap to the face and I think that really brings more power to the piece.
So great job, another work of gold in the making -- and more up my ally than jon.com. But win some, lose some, right?
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denlm In reply to Lady-Shade [2011-10-25 23:32:10 +0000 UTC]
Never apologize for not being a fan of Jon. He has his followers; Dina and Company have theirs. That is intentional on my part. Thank you for the comprehensive critique on both "Fellowships", too.
Fellowship of Psys is my first novel, and to borrow a comment from Harlan Corben when they rereleased his early novel: Stop. Take it back and buy another. No writer is completely happy with their early work! Lol. I do think though that FoP has some strengths that made it worthy of print.
As for Fellowship Lost, I'm glad you realize you didn't have to "know" Lorin to get into the story. To me, a good sequel should be able to stand on its own, at least a little. I also believe that the "snapshot" format of this opening chapter was why it got a DD. I am so proud of the idea, and am pleased you liked it too.
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denlm In reply to katarthis [2010-09-25 15:23:17 +0000 UTC]
I did make changes. This first chapter grew from a couple of paragraphs that I slapped together in a comment to a year ago, to a more fully fleshed-out post here on dA, to the new and finally complete revision you read here. I love it--and I am my own worst critic. I was thrilled with the DD, but would have known it was good without it. You know how that goes, right? We KNOW when we've connected with the sweet spot. This was one of those rare times for me. Thank you!
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denlm In reply to meljoy68 [2010-05-16 01:28:00 +0000 UTC]
Welcome! FYI: Fellowship Lost is the sequel to a novel that is already finished--Fellowship of Psys. It's available for purchase right now on Lulu.com... if you're interested.
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denlm In reply to meljoy68 [2010-05-16 13:48:05 +0000 UTC]
Whenever you're capable, it will be there. I will keep folks alerted to discount opportunities too. That always helps.
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denlm In reply to notepadgirl [2010-04-18 19:08:54 +0000 UTC]
I'm pleased that the scene stands on its own, and thank you for the compliments. Yes, this is the opening of the second novel in my trilogy, The Guild Files. The first novel, Fellowship of Psys, is finished and about to be published. Do you want to be on the mailing list to know when it comes out?
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fllnthblnk [2010-04-18 16:27:15 +0000 UTC]
Was meaning to fave this awhile ago, but forgot! Good stuff here. After reading this, I knew I had to feature it!
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denlm In reply to fllnthblnk [2010-04-18 18:14:11 +0000 UTC]
Wow, thank you again. And again. And again. I'm so glad you liked it.
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denlm In reply to WordSmith7 [2010-04-12 11:08:54 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. There's more of this story in my gallery in the folder titled Fellowship Lost. There's a prequel too in the folder titled Fellowship of Psys. If you're interested.
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kallia-goldenwings [2010-04-12 05:42:34 +0000 UTC]
giggles that was amazing I just loe the detail.
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amy-katharine [2010-04-12 04:41:12 +0000 UTC]
Wow. Great work.
It's, to me, reminiscent of Chuck Palahniuk, if you know the author.
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denlm In reply to amy-katharine [2010-04-12 11:09:52 +0000 UTC]
I do, and that has been said before -- especially about my first published novel, jon.com. Thanks for the comparison. I blush!
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amy-katharine In reply to denlm [2010-04-13 07:35:52 +0000 UTC]
Whew, it's upsetting when people aren't familiar with him.
You're welcome! Again, lovely work!!
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denlm In reply to amy-katharine [2010-04-13 10:57:05 +0000 UTC]
More and more are. His genre has not caught on as much as others yet. But Fight Club the movie has helped bring him into the general limelight.
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