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Description From the realms of everyday life Marcel Duchamp took an urinal and managed, after some initial setbacks, to turn it into fine art. He titled the piece Fountain and signed is R. Mutt. The work is regarded by some as a major landmark in 20th century art. And so it goes....Art is what you can get away with.

Many people have reacted strongly to this piece and, yes some have of course pissed in it. The guys at the museum were naturally pissed off. For more info read: [link] Quite fun reading actually!

see also: [link]

I have a hate love relationship to Marcel Duchamp – maybe is whole oeuvre is just a big joke. Maybe should his work interpreted in terms of alchemy?

Anyway it is fun to piss in one of the fountainheads of modernism. So why not take the urinal back, out from the museum, but put in a new sensible context. And make into a big fertilizer: [link]

I thought of placing in a playground, but the authorities said the my "play pool" would be hard to keep clean, it does look like a urinal doesn't it? People would piss in, they said. And they had a point. But the farmer I talked didn't mind. If urine could be turned into money he was happy. Maybe that is just what alchemy is all about: Turning piss into gold! Or art?

see also:
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digital collage by edvard derkert 2010
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Comments: 40

Deborah-Valentine [2010-10-05 16:02:08 +0000 UTC]

perfect! the yellow river

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derkert In reply to Deborah-Valentine [2010-10-05 16:05:28 +0000 UTC]

Ha - right! The next one will be: Yangtze river!

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Deborah-Valentine In reply to derkert [2010-10-06 03:13:34 +0000 UTC]

or the river styx

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Izaaaaa [2010-09-24 17:32:19 +0000 UTC]


i think we all have a love-hate relationship to Duchamp... and i think it's because maybe Duchamp had a love-hate relationship with art, hence his attitude towards his own creations... he worked quite seriously on them, even if in secret sometimes, yet appeared very nonchalant about the whole thing - and the whole thing raises so many unanswered question and is undoubtedly humours in an irreverentious kind of way a lot of time... so yes, i'd say he's very important, and maybe BECAUSE we can only love and hate "him".

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derkert In reply to Izaaaaa [2010-09-25 11:45:12 +0000 UTC]

Just my opnion!! Exactly!

edvard

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Izaaaaa In reply to derkert [2010-09-26 01:07:31 +0000 UTC]

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PancreasSupervisor [2010-09-20 14:46:16 +0000 UTC]

I love DADA!!!

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derkert In reply to PancreasSupervisor [2010-09-20 16:05:22 +0000 UTC]

Da da!

(in russian)

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Tordo [2010-09-04 23:27:18 +0000 UTC]

Speaking about having the Midas touch! Indeed I also have a love/hate relation with Duchamp's work.

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derkert In reply to Tordo [2010-09-05 12:07:31 +0000 UTC]

+ – = electricity

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Tordo In reply to derkert [2010-09-07 01:02:48 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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djailledie [2010-09-03 04:52:18 +0000 UTC]

Well, Duchamp succeeded 100%, as everybody remembers what he did.
Yes, you have a point here, with the farmers, who don't waste anything. That's the perfect place.

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derkert In reply to djailledie [2010-09-03 07:40:41 +0000 UTC]

True! Everything you said is true!
and thanks for the fave!

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polygraph80 [2010-09-02 15:43:55 +0000 UTC]

briliant..thAT's what i give to the future generations

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derkert In reply to polygraph80 [2010-09-02 16:00:18 +0000 UTC]

Ya!

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LancelotPrice [2010-09-02 14:38:16 +0000 UTC]

Somehow i now feel inadequate.

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derkert In reply to LancelotPrice [2010-09-02 15:22:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah – you are to small – I know how it feels not be a giant! small!

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Bark [2010-09-02 14:27:07 +0000 UTC]

makes me want to take a leak. a BIG one...

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derkert In reply to Bark [2010-09-02 15:22:36 +0000 UTC]

Go ahead –but not in my gallery!

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Steven-T-H-N [2010-09-02 13:16:48 +0000 UTC]

I am a fan of Duchamp and the other Dadaists. I just love the idea of them bringing the rest of the world along with them into there madness and there ideas. Piero manzoni convinced people to buy cans of his poop for heaven sakes. it is just glorious in its ridiculousness and force of will.

As for the collage I think it is a great exploration of the theme of the Fountain.

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derkert In reply to Steven-T-H-N [2010-09-02 15:26:28 +0000 UTC]

The artworld is sick! One of Manzonis cans is supposed to have exploded.....


And thanks!

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LauraTringaliHolmes [2010-09-02 13:11:08 +0000 UTC]

Brings to mind that old fairy tale, The Emperor's New Clothes....

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derkert In reply to LauraTringaliHolmes [2010-09-02 15:23:59 +0000 UTC]

Brings to mind the novel the fountain head by Ayn Rand! Sort of!

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LauraTringaliHolmes In reply to derkert [2010-09-02 20:44:27 +0000 UTC]

Brings to mind a recording of Pachelbel's Canon in D, only it's been altered into Taco Bell's Canon in D.... (Taco Bell being a fast-food chain here in the US.)

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derkert In reply to LauraTringaliHolmes [2010-09-02 20:59:28 +0000 UTC]

Hm! A canon can resemble a a fountain in some respects
and a bell is close to a ball.

But the rest of the pacha-parable doesnt ring a bell!

But I am sure you can explain!

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LauraTringaliHolmes In reply to derkert [2010-09-02 23:57:12 +0000 UTC]

I think it's one of those American things, which actually makes you a lucky guy!

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derkert In reply to LauraTringaliHolmes [2010-09-03 07:36:47 +0000 UTC]

ah Lucky strike!

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CrinaPrida [2010-09-02 11:54:00 +0000 UTC]

Hello Marcel...
[link]

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derkert In reply to CrinaPrida [2010-09-02 15:39:54 +0000 UTC]

Yes. that is my Marcel alright!

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CrinaPrida In reply to derkert [2010-09-02 15:50:29 +0000 UTC]

of course

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PEN-at-Work [2010-09-02 11:32:55 +0000 UTC]

Love hate relationship = Bingo!


I believe that future art history will have him as THE portal figure of 20th century art.
No one is more modernistic than he is, no one.

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derkert In reply to PEN-at-Work [2010-09-02 15:43:04 +0000 UTC]

In a way is see his subversive pranks (or whateve rit is)as a dead end. You cant subverse art more than that. It is done! When you see people doing the same things I just yawn.

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PEN-at-Work In reply to derkert [2010-09-02 15:49:03 +0000 UTC]

I am not going to deny this at all, but isn't last century, to an extent at least, one endless repetition of what he already had done by 1920?

Pelle, not nΓΆdvΓ€ndigtvis the Plutt!



PS. Art history is to an artist what ornithology is to a bird...

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derkert In reply to PEN-at-Work [2010-09-02 15:57:05 +0000 UTC]

Have to think about that!

Art history should concern the artist – so they dont have invent the weel all over again!

I like new concepts, new ideas – but it is not something you should strive for. Do your thing, be honest, curious and persistence something new will appear!

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PEN-at-Work In reply to derkert [2010-09-02 17:23:56 +0000 UTC]

It was mainly a humorous remark (the ornithology one) although it to some extent is true to me.

- I agree, Art History, or at least the history of art, is the fixed point an artist needs
to move the Earth.

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derkert In reply to PEN-at-Work [2010-09-02 21:08:27 +0000 UTC]

Yes – because as anything goes in contemporary art you can at least try to find some old traditional rules to break. Or return to.

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smallish-deer [2010-09-02 11:29:30 +0000 UTC]

I think maybe Marcel Duchamp had a hate/love relationship with himself as an artist too? I listened to an interview with him where he said that he wanted to destroy art at the same time as he wanted to keep making.

There was a big sculpture of it too. The realisation, pretty much, of this image. It was at the Burningman Festival (I'm not sure which year or what artist...I saw a documentary on tv about it). People could walk inside through that hole at the bottom.

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derkert In reply to smallish-deer [2010-09-02 15:45:11 +0000 UTC]

Shit most of my ideas I get are already realised. That is what I call re ready mades

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pmaeck [2010-09-02 10:47:27 +0000 UTC]

Brings to mind Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ."

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derkert In reply to pmaeck [2010-09-02 10:49:42 +0000 UTC]

was he big?

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