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bob-warden [2018-12-10 11:03:30 +0000 UTC]
She looks nice, although a little bit arrogant. A powerful, gorgeous alien princess! With a particular weakness against female opponents and magic. Interesting!
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 00:31:06 +0000 UTC]
Given her attitude, it would be quite interesting to see a bad girl taking her down.
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-13 07:39:03 +0000 UTC]
Respectfully Bob my friend... not to me. Without a compelling driver, I don't see someone who isn't aware of Valyn's weakness going up against the equivalent of Marvel's Phoenix at full power just to get their hand into her pants...
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 11:21:17 +0000 UTC]
Maybe that villainess really, really likes a challenge.ย ย
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-13 12:09:23 +0000 UTC]
That doesn't work for me personally... from the pov of the villain character, the rewards simply don't justify that level of risk. It couldbe equated to me getting into the ring with Ronda Rousey , holding a jar of peanut butter, hoping that not only is she allergic but that there isn't an epi pen anywhere in the neighbourhood so I can potentially cop a feel
That is fine for those universes where fetish is the main aim and showing any respect for a heroine's abilities gets you stood in a corner wearing the pink garlanded pointy hat of shame
The heroines being heroic is the main point of my universe. I think I have mentioned this already.
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 12:40:14 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I know. You have mentioned this before, and I have said that I share this way of thinking even if I sometimes prefer naughtier stories, and even if a heroine gets defeated and seduced, the villainess could still show some respect or even fondness for her. I just mentioned that it would be nice for me, I'm not saying that it needs to happen or that it should happen. I just, liked your heroine and thought that this might be an interesting scenario, but having such an overpowered heroine for more serious stories with action and fighting makes sense, and it's totally okay.
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-13 13:01:55 +0000 UTC]
We could debate overpowered all day ๐
She is extremely powerful on any scale, but compared to say Serena, Valyn's weakness makes her far more vulnerable
It is a fairly strict limiting factor on her which is why Cassie holds her in reserve
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 13:22:14 +0000 UTC]
It's a good idea to hold your strongest weapon for special situations. Well, Supergirl needs to have kryptonite or Wonder Woman should be unable to escape her own lasso, otherwise it would be pretty hard to stop these kind of heroines. As long as those kind of things are not overused, like a random thug having kryptonite and turning Supergirl into a weak plaything, for example.
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-13 13:34:15 +0000 UTC]
Agreed... but villains also need their kryptonite
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 13:40:16 +0000 UTC]
I think this can be said for most overpowered characters, in general.
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-13 13:46:05 +0000 UTC]
So... Serena is getting a nerf then? ๐
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 20:11:47 +0000 UTC]
I don't think she needs one. Serena may be a powerful witch, but I don't think she is overpowered. She doesn't have the kind of magic to control time or reality, create powerful illusions, or being invulnerable to damage. Like Superman who every time he becomes evil he rules the world with barely any opposition. Yeah, she is powerful, resourceful and sometimes even unpredictable, but she can be defeated. Let's not forget that En-Trance is still immune to her seduction magic, even if she isn't immune to her touch.ย ย
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-13 21:02:33 +0000 UTC]
You seem to think that is a good thing
You have given Serena a vast array of powers to insure she can pretty much take out any heroine. That is cool, you like those kind of stories...but it doesn't mean she is over powered.
Here is a test
Valyn can be defeated by 50% of the planet, with a low probability for a normal women rising higher and higher until say Spider Woman would have little trouble
Trance can be gagged or drugged
Alchemica can be physically over powered or defeated by magic
Cassie can be drugged
Semper is a normal woman in body armor with guns...any thing that effects a normal woman effects her.
For powerful heroines, those are fairly reasonable paths to defeat
What would be a reasonable path for a heroine to defeat Serena once Serena began her ambush?ย
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 21:47:16 +0000 UTC]
It depends on the situation and the heroine. If she manages to use her draining magic and seduction magic, weakening and stimulating a heroine then she pretty much has her. But if the heroine has some backup and Serena is focused on her, then her partner could take her out if she is stealthy or fast enough. Stronger heroines take longer to weaken, so they could still land a hard strike and knock Serena out. If a heroine has another resistance, like En-Trance she could still turn things around. If Serena tried her seduction magic and it wasn't effective she would be surprised, and En-Trance could take her out. If Serena overcame her surprise fast enough, or managed to withstand En-Trance's blows, she could turn things around. Nephila also defeated Serena by using her powers on Serena when she didn't expect it and she could do it again if she managed to ambush her, and Ariadne defeated her because Serena underestimated her and dropped her guard and Ariadne still had some powers left. Maybe there is no direct way to defeat Serena, no kryptonite of sorts, but there are situations that she can be defeated, if she makes a mistake or her opponent is smarter or even stronger. Again, it's not like she can use really powerful forms of magic like time freeze or unbreakable illusions. She may be powerful but she has her limits.
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-13 21:57:58 +0000 UTC]
She took out SG pretty easily and I believe you said she would just teleport about and use her energy drain in your note
My point is this, I am not saying that you ever have to write a story where Serena loses, but the more hoops a heroine has to jump through to win, the more specific the circumstances have to be, the more she slides along the scale toward OP
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 22:29:42 +0000 UTC]
Maybe you have a point, maybe Serena is a little too strong. Magic can be quite powerful, after all. But she is not the only one, Black Mass for example has defeated pretty much every heroine she has met with little trouble.
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-13 23:08:59 +0000 UTC]
Indeed and again, it depends on kind of the story. Whether it is more action focused, more romantic or more erotic, or maybe it's just an event with heroines chilling in their everyday life and there's not even any conflict. Besides, I think I mentioned that the idea I might have for an encounter with Serena and En-Trance might not even have any fighting between them.
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-14 07:50:20 +0000 UTC]
You did... but there also isn't a hook to set up why Trance would want to sleep with her
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-14 09:53:15 +0000 UTC]
I still haven't thought about something particular, other than Serena helping En-Trance out of a tight spot again. Is there no way for En-Trance to consider spending a night with Serena, without Serena resorting to capturing her?
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devduck01 In reply to bob-warden [2018-12-14 10:25:38 +0000 UTC]
And here we are again...
There are many ways, if you wait until Valentine's Day you will see one
But just to let you know ... the Serena Capture scenario is not one that captures my interest
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bob-warden In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-14 14:44:12 +0000 UTC]
Okay then, I'll wait for that story.
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MirrorKhaos [2018-12-08 12:28:22 +0000 UTC]
Another excellent character profile
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LDivi [2018-12-08 11:44:39 +0000 UTC]
Interesting character!ย
... That last weakness is a bit of a doozy, isn't it?ย
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devduck01 In reply to LDivi [2018-12-08 12:23:51 +0000 UTC]
It is...
I created Valyn at the very beginning ...pre-page so to speak.
Back then, I was planning on telling...how would I say it best...SHiP stories representative of the general trends in the genre.
Pretty soon after starting the page however, my tabletop GM story telling instincts hijacked the project and I went down a different route but keeping the peril and erotic material as one of the strong sub threads.
Valyn..renamed and re-imagined, came back into the mix pretty quickly.
I decided to expand her background but keep the weakness and see if I could make it work as a "kryptonite" type weakness.
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RenderPretender [2018-12-07 15:25:17 +0000 UTC]
Pretty cool stuff.
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devduck01 In reply to RenderPretender [2018-12-08 07:52:21 +0000 UTC]
Thanks RP...
Valyn was my "showcase" heroine at the beginning when I was still planning on doing more traditional SHiP
I kept her weakness and expanded her background when I changed tack
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ShadowhawkOne [2018-12-07 09:38:16 +0000 UTC]
Excellent bio on Valyn you have given us buddy, from her back ground she could almost have been a force of evil instead of a force of good. I noticed the disparity between fighting ability and agility in relation to her strength and stamina that she is much more suited to a role asย the Hulk to have than Superman, despite her ability to fire energy beams from her eyes and hands. I would imagine she would be more inclined to rush in and pummel/demolish a threat than to hold back a moment and access the tactical situation first. While that would certainly be useful at times, it could also be used against her and her team if properly exploited.ย
One of these days I would love to see her open up and reveal the reason of her exile.
The artwork by hulkdaddyg is pretty awesome as well.
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devduck01 In reply to ShadowhawkOne [2018-12-08 07:53:37 +0000 UTC]
You are right, though you would have to take into account the scale, most normal people would be a 2 or a 3
Valyn is a pummeler, given her people have never met a foe they couldn't simply just pound senseless, any real finesse has vanished from their fighting philosophy
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ShadowhawkOne In reply to devduck01 [2018-12-08 09:07:27 +0000 UTC]
OK you got me there I hadn't considered that the normal rating is in the 2-3 range, she is definitely one of those that you really want at your back when it really hits the fan.ย
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devduck01 In reply to Soolz [2018-12-06 17:37:27 +0000 UTC]
Oh yeah
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devduck01 In reply to Soolz [2018-12-08 07:56:32 +0000 UTC]
lol
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FabledHeroes [2018-12-05 22:19:31 +0000 UTC]
Lovelyย
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