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I do not think it's that, it's what people TELL you. I mean i hear these things too, and i KNOW that i still believe. I just tell myself "God loves everyone. No matter what." i mean, [religious] people ALWAYS say that, but do they believe it themselves, considering how narrow minded they are about other people's sexuality?! Yeah, sorry for rambling on.
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Religion is just something lame. You have to think for yourself, and you don't have to listen to God. I'm a lesbian, and so I'm going to hell. So what?! I'm happy with it. I just wish those religious people would let me be with her.
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Oh that's so sad 
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I have lost faith in the people who say thier crhistians but dont let them kill your faith. Sometimes I feel like Im drowning in the "rules" of christianity. Im still fighting to keep my faith. My mantra? "Love the sinner, hate the sin. Accept ALL people for themselves." Ignore the hypocrits and haters in christianity. Ignore your pastor if you must. Life goes on. If you (or the people who read this) want to talk you (and them) are welcome to PM me.
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you Know what if you actually look at the Bible itself rather then the doctrine thats taught you may be pleasantly surprised at What our Creator has to say to us and what is planned for us in the future.
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Faith is a personal thing. Christianity is two things: love and forgiveness.
Even Jesus said: the most important commandment is to love your God. Also, the most important is to love your neighbor as yourself.
You don't have to believe everything they tell you--remember, humans are fallible. Only God is perfect.
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As a Christian, I am iffy on on abortion and support gay rights. Don't let private school shake yoiur faith in God.
I was told that as long as you beleive everything in the Apostle's Creed, then you're pretty much set xD You may not be Baptist, but you're Christian, and frankly that should be enough C: If you know what I mean.
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What they tell you is one thing - what you CHOOSE to believe is completely different. You make the choice.
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well, I think you should allow yourself to believe whatever feels right to you, but I want to point something out...I wouldn't say that Christianity is the fundamental problem, it's the people around you that are teaching it. I went to a Catholic school from Kindergarten on through high school, and there were parts that I hated so much, and I was treated wrongly by some people, and really well by others, and I blamed Catholicism as a whole and not the people. Put the blame where it belongs. A religion doesn't (generally, imo) become wrong until it is misused by some misguided human.
Just like there are those closed minded people in that religion, there are plenty of open minded people. Don't lose your faith if you believe in the religion, just ignore those people. They are teaching their opinions and the opinions of some others. Their interpretations of the Bible and so on.
For example, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. So many homophobes try to cite this as God's condemnation of gays, but Sodom and Gomorrah was about murder and general crude behavior. The stories about sex and orgies weren't because of the fact that they were taking part in gay behavior, but because it was done amorally. No sense of sacredness etc. They had lost touch with God.
Don't let people affect your beliefs. Believe whatever is in your heart and say screw the rest.
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I have very religious Christian friends who actively fight for LGBT rights. The thing about religion is you can take it however you want. There are even conflicting things in the bible (so I've heard) so you just choose which one you want to tromp the other. I believe the bible says to love everyone, so you can take that to heart and have your own beliefs and still be close to God if you want to.
I wish you luck in finding balance ST c:
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Also the churches these friends belong to welcome anyone and everyone, including LGBT people.
So it's not the whole religion c: (they are Lutheran though, not Baptist)
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There is this guy, his name is Mike, and I believe he went to a Christian school. He is the lead singer of one of my favorite bands, and he will tell you that he is still getting over his "Christian school" days. He is singing about things he didn't learn there, because he knows that what he learned was not necessarily right.
I totally forgot where I was going with this.
But anyway, this reminds me of a picture I put up.
Again, I lost my train of thought...
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That is why I am no longer a Christian. I have gay friends and I got tired of being told "Not queer or lesbo is setting foot in this church."
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I too have gay friends, and even though I no longer call myself a Christian, I still believe in God. Oh no, I'm not a Christian anymore. I now call myself spiritual (there's a difference between that and being religious).
I 100% know where you are coming from 
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Thank you. I'm more a deist.
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You're welcome. I quite like that 
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personally i lost faith in Christianity a long time ago when i realized how hateful and judgmental ppl in my church were. then i figured out that most religions are basically the same promising a good afterlife if you do good in this one. im a lot happier believing that if i live a good life something good will happen to me when i die... but about the disappointing thing.... dont worry i think youll feel worse if your disappointed in yourself because your doing something you dont feel is right just to keep from disappointing other people
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You don't have to lose faith in Christianity. True christianity is about accepting others and forgiveness and what not. All you disagree with is part of these uptight baptist teaching, that doesn't mean that all of Christianity is wrong, just this school. And if it's not the right place for you, I;m sure you'll find a place that is. Don't lose faith secret teller, and don't be a fraid to tell people how you feel and what you believe either!
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Yep. I have a friend who is currently in seminary, he's openly gay. The president of his seminary is in a same-sex marriage. Not all Christians believe the same things.
There are a lot of resources out there about all of this, because of having such widely varied beliefs. Lose faith in these particular individuals if you need to, but not all Christians, and not all Baptists believe this.
It's actually about love, not hate, and really I understand Gandhi's comment "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." even as a Christian because so the visible church is very non-Christ-like in my eyes.
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I couldn't agree more, and I think it;s quite sad that so many people who proclaim themselves as Christian are so judgmental and condemning toward others who are not like them when true Christianity is the exact opposite of that. But like you said, not all Christians are like that, and it's nice to know that other people who actually are Christians follow the faith as it was meant to be.
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It might be even nicer to know that its possible to find a church to attend that is like that. It's not near perfect, but the only thing the least bit anti-gay in the church I go to is "I want to support you but I'm afraid of the political statement of going so far as to sponsor you for seminary while our bishop has not ordained an openly-gay person before". And that bit the congregation is working on 
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Your faith is personal, and its meant for you, and only you. You shouldnt feel pressured to change/hide/quit your personal religion because people (might) not approve of it.
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I'm with you.
I think that nobody should decide for you if being gay is wrong and if aborting a baby is wrong.
Not even the bible,in my opinion,decides if a person is unworthy for his sexual oriantation or his action of abortion...it's a personal bussiness.
I still don't know what I think about abortion in general,but I think that god loves every person he created...even gay people.They're not monsters.They are as worthy to him as us all.
Don't lose your faith,have your own opinion of god's ways and his love
Said by a jewish girl.
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God is a being of love. How can he NOT love love? (or anything done from love... *points to the gay part*)
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ST, you should interpret the Bible and Christianity in the way that YOU see it to be true. Christianity is about YOUR relationship with God/Jesus, so what other people believe shouldn't have an influence on what you think. I know it's got to be hard being surrounded in such close-minded beliefs, but there are so many different churches with completely different beliefs. Though I'm not Christian, the church I went to when I was younger didn't believe in hell, the devil, or that being gay or committing suicide would damn you to hell. We didn't even believe that it's a sin. So just try to tough it out and keep your head on straight. But if you decide to leave Christianity, there's nothing wrong with that 
Keep on truckin', ST!
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You should message me. I've been a Christian for about 4 years now, and I've struggled and walked through a lot of these issues so maybe we shouldd talk about them.
I figured out a while ago that it only stresses me out when I worry about the specifics of homosexuality and abortion in relation to what th Bible says. You have to remember that the term "homosexual" didn't even show up until the 1900's. When the Bible references homosexuality, it's usually in the context of premarital sex. There wasn't any birth control back then, so homosexual sex was kind of the way to do it without concieving.
As far as abortion goes, I believe it's wrong. We know that God shaped us in our mother's wombs, and that every child is a creation of God. I think destroying something so intentional is a sin but we are never, ever supposed to judge someone. I myself have done so much wrong against God.
I don't want to peg down any scripture with definite meanings though, because God's Word is complex and sometimes hard to understand. Everyone has different interpretations of it. But it is undisputable that God has comanded us to love one another with a Christ-like love. We should never hate another group because they're "sinners", because we all are. I've done terrible things but God still loves me and requires me to show love to everyone as well. Stop worrying about what is "wrong" or "right", and just love everyone.
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i understand you ST. often who want to convince us that some doctrines are right, only manage to do the opposite. maybe sometimes they're hypocrite...
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Trust me when I say that nothing is worth being in a place that makes you uncomfortable. Your religion is between you and God, nobody else. If you don't believe the things you're being told in this environment, you shouldn't stick around. There's so many options in Christianity alone, don't limit yourself to something that makes you miserable.
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ST, I feel your pain 100%. Really.
I went to a Private Baptist school all my life. Because of everything I was taught there and everything that they slammed into my head, I almost committed suicide when I discovered I was bi. And because of everything I was taught there, I wasn't able to come to terms with it until I was 18. I was so afraid for YEARS, that I was forced into a false sense of homophobia because I was afraid of everything that was happening to me.
And, well, I can't say much about abortion, because, honestly, I'm against it. But I'm not going to argue your opinion.
But that's not the point. The point is, I know what these types of schools can do. I know it can be hard to tell people you go to them. And I know it can be hard in class when they're talking nonsense. But, ST, don't be ashamed. You may have to explain to some people that you don't hold the same views as your school, but you don't have to be defined by the Baptists. You are whoever you want to be, no matter what the Bible says, the teachers say, the students say, or your friends say.
Keep your head up, ST. It may be a long and annoying road, but you'll get through it, and then you'll never have to look back.
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you'll notice the right moment to talk about it.
don't force it
the bible has been written long time ago, its totally out of date
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The thing with the Bible is that there's so much in it that you can probably find something to back up almost any opinion that you have. For example, there are quotes to say that homosexuality is a sin but if you don't aree with that then you can say that it is not up to man to judge sinners, it is up to God.
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I have faith in Christianity and I'm not even Christian. There are as many Christians living by the love of their God as there are those living by the fear of him.
I think you already know which you see as your personal truth.
And if there is a God, I think it's his voice speaking in you now through your empathy.
Those same people will likely tell you to take everything in the bible literally...
The truth is most fear based Christians both HATE and are blind to literal interpretations.
Almost every line in the bible that mentions Homosexuality has to be reinterpreted in some way to make it as sinful a thing as many modern Christians want people to believe.
Examples...
Leviticus: "You shall not lie with man as with woman."
By Gods own rules, no missionary sex... Got it. It needn't be interprated any further than that unless you're trying to preach against it for your own reasons.
Romans: "...Men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."
It never says that God punishes them. It could as easily be other men punishing them. In fact you have to go back a few lines and purposefully connect Gods wrath against idolaters with this line to make it look like his wrath is against homosexuality.
There is a lot of "Well God MUST be saying THIS." When people try to interpret the bible.
It's like someone saying "This shampoo says lather, rinse, repeat... But it doesn't say stop! Everyone diligently get to your showers! for this is the will of god."
My advice... Avoid anyone who thinks they know what God thinks...
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You have the right to think the way you do, ST. And even if you believe, I don't think agreeing with everything written in the bible (even tough I think, this is more a matter of interpretation here ... ). Anyways, what matter is your faith, you have the right to have your opinions. Don't be affraid of what people will think of you, I know it's hard, but it will make your life way easier.
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This. I don't know how to say it any better then the way you put it. ^^
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Religion is a seriously funny thing, not in the ha-ha funny, but in the fact it can be interpreted in many ways. You are seeing one form of "Christianity", which is the commonly perceived one, and I lost faith in it many times, all rooted in the fact that I lost faith in the Men(as in people) of God, not religion itself. A way to possibly.... revive your faith, if you wish to, is to re-read the Bible itself, and interpret it as you wish. I did it, and it led me to being able to say to anyone that I am Christian, but I do not follow the Bible, I believe in many things, all Gods, Deities and such, but I will not let my mind stay the thoughts of others, and that everyone is different. I know that's random for me to say, but give it a try, Hell, read multiple books on religion, or even just sit up one night and simply think to yourself what you truly believe, what other people tell you, or what you know to be true, in your heart(cliche alert!).
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