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jkas9631pp [2020-02-26 19:18:47 +0000 UTC]
"these would make (for any would-be animator reading my text here) great subject for cartoons."
I guess it's better reveal that i am,in about some days,receive a drawing table and i am going to use to make animations and the first animation is gonna be a part of a remake of One Piece that removes everything that ruined the sense of adventure
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devilkais In reply to jkas9631pp [2020-02-26 21:11:56 +0000 UTC]
Well Good luck with that XD Though I'd say you're safe till about the end of Thriller Bark !
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jkas9631pp In reply to devilkais [2020-02-26 22:06:47 +0000 UTC]
....
I was actually planning to do the entire series
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jkas9631pp In reply to devilkais [2020-02-27 23:13:50 +0000 UTC]
Thanks
...
(stretches)Some things are gonna be influenced by your opinions
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DevilRising [2016-07-02 22:21:27 +0000 UTC]
Awesome work man. I never got to read any old Donald comics as a kid, but I did love Ducktales. Carl Barks is definitely a legend.
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devilkais In reply to Diebro210 [2013-06-14 10:55:51 +0000 UTC]
Indeed ! NOw to show the other greats !
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devilkais In reply to DCLeadboot [2013-06-10 18:40:55 +0000 UTC]
No, Scrooge won't lend him a cent ... but he won't mind eating at his place .
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Ohthehumanityplz [2013-06-02 06:05:10 +0000 UTC]
You should probably do a article that explains the differences between Gyro and Ludwig. That way your argument can be better.
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devilkais In reply to Knarand [2013-05-17 15:04:09 +0000 UTC]
No problem ! What do you think of the stories I ve selected ?
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devilkais In reply to Demico-Art [2013-05-17 15:04:36 +0000 UTC]
ow this may be weird to ask you this but, what did you think about the part I wrote about Donald ?
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Demico-Art In reply to devilkais [2013-05-18 07:26:26 +0000 UTC]
I dunno,you mean Donald isn't getting too much attention and needs a movie, or what?
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devilkais In reply to Demico-Art [2013-05-18 08:09:42 +0000 UTC]
Yep ! And which is unfortunate since he's Disney's best character (not to mention that there is a huge market for the Disney comicsverse out there !). It is sort of amazing that they keep ignoring this sort of material while it is right under their noses for 50 years ....
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Ohthehumanityplz In reply to devilkais [2013-06-02 06:06:03 +0000 UTC]
Donald has had several movies focused on him in the past, but a recent movie would be fun.
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devilkais In reply to Ohthehumanityplz [2013-06-11 22:54:21 +0000 UTC]
Oh I will get to that , trust me . There are so many comics that can be adapted !
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Ohthehumanityplz In reply to devilkais [2013-06-12 07:40:33 +0000 UTC]
Did you hear about the new Mickey Mouse movie being made in production? Perhaps this will lead to the technique they used in Paperman to give a half traditional-CGi film. I'd love to see more CGI done in the style of Dragon Quest(look up Dragon Quest 8[dragon quest 9 opening] on youtube, it's gorgeous).
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Demico-Art In reply to devilkais [2013-05-18 08:44:11 +0000 UTC]
Maybe he's a short cartoon sort of character. And they did a lot of short cartoons with him anyway.
I mean, look at Tom and Jerry - they are good for short cartoons, but the movie was kind of weird.
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devilkais In reply to Demico-Art [2013-05-18 15:20:40 +0000 UTC]
Well that depends ... Most of his comics can be easily be story-boards for animated movies . That sort of implies that the characters in modern animated features are somewhat more complex/interesting/funnier/deeper than him or his family, which is simply not true (this goes for other character like Mickey or even the Looney Tunes...).
Hell, even the princessy stuff Disney seems to be obsessed with was done with him and better than most (like the Reginella stories by Cimino !)
As for Tom & Jerry , they are purely made for violence and classical music parodies ... toning them down for kids is just wrong . The sherlock Holmes and Tom & Jerry movie was not bad (though would be better if it were a bit darker in the humor ...)
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WarioSuperstar [2013-05-07 00:23:37 +0000 UTC]
Hey, I got your message and I kinda got the hind that I should read your article about Carl Barks. So I did.
Here in the Netherlands, there is a big collection about 130 albums with only Carl Barks comics, each 48 pages (with some exceptions). I don't own the whole collection, but I got album No. 102 first. It was the first Donald Duck album I owned and I loved it. I got more of these albums now and I must say, I still love Barks' stories the best. It's kind of sad. A few weeks after I started (really) reading Donald Duck comics, Barks died. But he will be remembered.
When I read the sentence "SCROOGE McDUCK: If you don't know who he is , what the hell are you waiting for?", I got a bit sad. Recently, Disney, Capcom and WayForward decided to remake the well received DuckTales game (originally released on the Nintendo Entertainment System). It stars Scrooge as the main character. I have read an interview with the developers of the remake and they said they have tested the game with children. It turns out no child knew who this "Grandpa Duck" was [link] . I guess Donald Duck isn't as big as he used to be anymore, at least in America. They don't air DuckTales anymore and, besides the stories of Barks and Don Rosa, I don't know any Donald Duck comic written in America. Most comics I read are from Europe. Mostly from the Netherlands, Denmark and Italy.
In Finland and in my home country, the Netherlands, the production of Donald Duck magazines and albums is the highest in the world, so I guess children would still know who Scrooge is here. The chief editor of the Dutch Donald Duck magazine claimed that Donald Duck is popular in the Netherlands because it became a part of parenting. Parents want to give their kids the same experience of the timeless comics as they did in their youth. Not only that, but in the Netherlands and Finland, people like to subscribe for magazines more than in other countries. Now something interesting. Research showed that a lot of older men like to read Donald Duck in the Netherlands. Those older men are people who subscribed for the magazine in their youth and never stopped the subscription, but they kept reading. While I think most people in the Netherlands, including children, know who Scrooge is, but he is probably more famous with people form older generations.
According to the editors of the Dutch Donald Duck magazines: Carl Barks was quite clumsy before he became a Duck Artist. He had many different jobs, but wasn't good at them. Barks may have reflected his own experiences on Donald Duck. Donald is clumsy and the way Donald acts in Barks' comics may be really similar to how Barks would act.
You clearly said in your article that there are no two Donalds. This may be true, however Donald does change and evolve over the years and even every artist handles Donald Duck differently. I once said that I thought Scrooge was different in Italian comics compared to Barks' comics. Well, he is Scrooge in both comics, but one focuses more on adventure (Barks) and the other on slapstick (Italian). While Scrooge is Scrooge, I do feel do feel that one Scrooge is different from the other. The same counts for Donald. Each artist highlights another feature of Donald's personality or put more emphasis on it. In one comic, Donald can be very bright and smart and in another, he always makes the wrong decisions. Things like this can make one 'version' of Donald feel different from the other, yet all the core elements of the character remain the same. So even though one Donald may feel different from the other, you still recognise the one and only Donald in it. In conclusion, I both agree and disagree with your statement about two Donalds.
I must say it's a great (and long) article you wrote about Carl Barks and his creations and improvements. Congratulations. The drawing is also pretty good.
One thing I noticed about reading Donald Duck comics is that the colours of some characters are different, depending in which country the comic is coloured. Sometimes Gyro has brown hair, sometimes blond and sometimes red. Also Scrooge's cloathing never have the same colours. He often wears red , but in DuckTales and some Italian comics, he wears blue. Also the colour if his dressing gown's collar, sleeves and his gaiters (his sock-like things) are always different. In the comics I grew up with, Scrooge's clothing where coloured like this [link] , while the same thing may be coloured somewhere else like this [link] . I also see Scrooge often coloured like this [link] . Why is it always different? Can't it be the same everywhere?
Oh, and just for fun, here is a list of the characters names that changed in Dutch. I will tell what it means and sometimes give an English variation of the name.
Donald Duck = Donald Duck (Donald kept his name, but a duck is actually called an "eend" in Dutch)
Scrooge McDuck = Dagobert Duck (same name as in German)
Daisy Duck = Katrien Duck (Catherine Duck)
Huey, Dewey & Louie Duck = Kwik, Kwek & Kwak Duck (Kwik, Kwek and Kwak sound like the noises a duck makes)
Gladstone Gander = Guus Geluk (Gus Luck)
Gyro Gearloose = Willie Wortel (Wortel means both "carrot" and "square root")
Little Helper = Lampje (Lampy or Lightbulby)
Beagle Boys = Zware Jongens (Zwaar means Tough, Heavy, Strong or Hard and Jongens means Boys)
Magica de Spell = Zwarte Magica (Black Magica)
Flintheart Glomgold = Govert Goudglas (Goudglans means Goldgloss)
John D. Rockerduck = John D. Rockerduck (not every name is different)
April, May & June Duck = Lizzy, Juultje & Babetje Duck (Dutch girl names)
Grandma Duck = Oma Duck (Grandma Duck)
Gus Goose = Gijs Gans (Gus Goose)
Jughead Jones = Bertus Bolderbast (no idea what it means actually, but he appears a lot in Dutch comics)
Junior Woodchucks = Jonge Woudlopers (Young Rangers)
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devilkais In reply to WarioSuperstar [2013-05-07 19:23:59 +0000 UTC]
" I guess Donald Duck isn't as big as he used to be anymore, at least in America."
I told a friend about that and the idiocy of Disney execs ! I just can't comprehend why Disney doesn't seem to care about the wonderful characters as major
characters anymore and don't see the wealth of potential that still rests in their "fab 5" ( Pfah ! Fab 5 ? Gimme a break ! The last time I watched an INTACT
and multi-layered Donald in cartoons was in "Quack Pack" and that show was vastly underrated. But I will talk about it another time just as I talked about
the greatest cartoons series of the 00's [link] . It is worthy of
discussion !)
" Carl Barks was quite clumsy before he became a Duck Artist. He had many different jobs, but wasn't good at them. Barks may have reflected his own
experiences on Donald Duck."
True , from what I heard he also tended not to take heavy criticism very well, just like the duck (though he was shier ) ! XD Donald is somewhat an amalgam
of the contributions of animators and cartoonists. Bear in mind that he had a personality from the begining ; Donald may be one of the best characters to
capture the perennial nare do well in most humans. He was created during the depression, so the best symbol is a character that is angry at the mishaps
threw at him. ( The only other character to achieve such a pinnacle of polyvalence but in a different fashion is Daffy ... Ducks generally make for the best
characters XD )
"I both agree and disagree with your statement about two Donalds."
What I meant by that is that I was personally sick and tired to see Donald cartoons being constantly belittled and ignored. In any comics forum, you see them
only speak about Hannah's contribution (freaking Chip & Dale... boy do I hate them !) , which literally ruined Donald's animated career in the fifties, and
use that to say that Donald was nothing beore Barks. But what about the toons from 39 to 48 ? No one talks about it ! So I want people who forgot or didn't
know, to remember that Donald was never a one note character . He was already one of the greats and Barks perfected him ( and I stand by what I said : He can
be used in animation ! And to whoever complains about the voice ? Deal with it !If you came to watch Donald in action, you knew already what you were in
for... To me , he always sounded like that, even in the comics .)
" One thing I noticed about reading Donald Duck comics is that the colours of some characters are different, depending in which country the comic is
coloured"
As a kid I always thought that he had clothes of different colours. XD And maybe Gyro is contantly testing a new way to dye his hair XD.
Thanks for your comment ! And here are the names in french
Donald Duck = Donald Duck
Scrooge McDuck = Balthazar Picsou
Daisy Duck = Daisy Duck
Huey, Dewey & Louie Duck = Riri, Fifi & Loulou
Gladstone Gander = Gontran Bonheur
Gyro Gearloose = GΓ©o Trouvetou
Little Helper = Filament
Beagle Boys = Les frères Rapetou
Magica de Spell = Miss Tick
Flintheart Glomgold = Archibald Gripsou
John D. Rockerduck = John CrΓ©sus Flairsou
April, May & June Duck = Lili , Lulu & Zizi
Grandma Duck = Grand-Mère Duck
Gus Goose = Gus Glouton
Jughead Jones = Lagrorne
Junior Woodchucks = Les Castors Juniors (junior beavers)
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WarioSuperstar In reply to devilkais [2013-05-07 23:43:56 +0000 UTC]
Quack Pack is now re-airing on Disney XD here in the Netherlands, so at least one of your underrated cartoons gets a bit of attention here.
I don't know much about the cartoons. I saw some and just liked them, even the once you dislike. I do know something about the cartoons though. When Donald first appeared in a cartoon, he was directly a fan favourite. I once heard that Walt Disney was disappointed because of the popularity of Donald. Donald overshadowed his personal favourite character: Mickey Mouse. The reason why Donald was more popular than Mickey was because Mickey was the embodiment of goodness. In other words: he was 'boring' compared to the lively and funnier Donald. Donald was also more human and people could connect with Donald. I don't know why, but most of the Donald cartoons I watched usually shows the negative sides of Donald more than his good sides. He appeared as the antagonist (to Chip and Dale and his nephews) in many cartoons and Donald rarely wins. Maybe Disney didn't want Donald as a hero or good guy or something.
I knew some of the French names already, but not all. One of the not so many thing I remembered from the French lessons I got was that the name of Scrooge was Picsou, but I forgot what it meant. I am not so good in French. Later, I also learned the names Riri, Fifi & Loulou because of the theme song of "La Banda Γ Picsou" [link] . They sing the names Picsou, Riri, Fifi and Loulou a lot. Also, the Dutch Donald Duck likes to give their readers a lot of information and sometimes give the names of various characters in different languages. It's kind of funny to see how many names differ between language. A lot gets changed.
Oh, do you want to something interesting about the names of Disney characters? In Belgium, they both speak Dutch and French. In 1950 the "Mickey Magazine" started in Belgium, two years before France got "Le Journal de Mickey" and the Netherlands "Donald Duck". Most of the Disney characters had different names in both the French and the Dutch version of Mickey Magazine. Most of these Belgium Dutch names were similar or the same as the Belgium French names. I don't know many names, but I know that Scrooge was called Oncle JΓ©rΓ©mie in French and Oom Jeremias in Dutch. Some Belgium French names are the same as the usual French though. Goofy was called Dingo in both the French and Dutch version of Mickey Magazine. I know that Goofy's usual French name is Dingo, but Goofy's usual Dutch name is Goofy. Strange.
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devilkais In reply to WarioSuperstar [2013-05-08 23:31:52 +0000 UTC]
Well , truth be told , Walt did not know how to handle Mickey or the mythology surrounding the mouse . Hell, the best Mickey director was Reilly Thomson and he got very rare occasions to work with the rodent. And I love Mickey, he 's a great character and I thought so ever since I was a kid. The problem is that they never use the TRUE Mickey in animation( except in the wonderful " Runaway Brain" or "Prince and the pauper" or " Mickey and the beanstalk"); but hey,"execs are morons and all that".Walt should have let the animators use Floyd's Mickey ...
Walt actually liked Donald : the duck opened a floodgate of potential new storylines and scenarios.( that is until Jack Hannah butchered that potential. To this day I don't think Hannah was the right director for Donald. A character like Donald,Daffy or Sylvester can't work if the user does not sympathise or has a connection with said character, if so they should not be writing or animating them ...). However , neither he nor Barks liked Goofy (while Floyd Gottfredson , Scarpa, Art Babbit and director Jack Kinney proved what a superb character the Goof is XD ! More on that another day....)
Picsou is actually a worldplay on Pique-sou ( someone who steals coins XD ). Well Goofy holds the record for number of french names Before they agreed on Dingo ; Quenotte, Piloche, Achille Nigaudot or Moule Γ Gauffres (waffle maker XD ), still it's part of why I just adore the guy .
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Ohthehumanityplz In reply to devilkais [2013-06-02 06:10:57 +0000 UTC]
Those titles you mentioned are the best 'mickey and friends' films up to date. Though I wish they could complete Mickey and the Beanstalk. There's some material that needs to be added.
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Ohthehumanityplz In reply to devilkais [2013-06-04 05:10:55 +0000 UTC]
If you ever find the time to look up classic Disney books, there's a entire story that has the completed Mickey and the Beanstalk. Not sure for Bongo(even though there's a lot for concept art for that film as well).
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devilkais In reply to Super-fox-layer100 [2013-05-06 22:00:50 +0000 UTC]
Now this may be weird to ask you this but, what did you think about the part I wrote about Donald ?
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brasman [2013-05-05 19:27:35 +0000 UTC]
Great drawing, thanks for sharing!
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devilkais In reply to brasman [2013-06-09 20:04:55 +0000 UTC]
Thanks , there will be more .
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TheDreweMaster [2013-05-05 06:01:44 +0000 UTC]
I just love the look on Donald's face about his bill!
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devilkais In reply to TheDreweMaster [2013-05-06 21:58:36 +0000 UTC]
Man, if you ever get the occasion to get some Barks comics , trust me you won't regret it ! But we will deal with other writers who used the PERFECTED Donald .
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TheDreweMaster In reply to devilkais [2013-05-07 20:23:17 +0000 UTC]
I'm not sure if they sell them here in the UK.
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Jose-Ramiro [2013-05-05 01:34:38 +0000 UTC]
Hey, great job here, as usual.
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devilkais In reply to Jose-Ramiro [2013-05-06 21:58:56 +0000 UTC]
Thank you man , I am honored !
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