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Published: 2005-05-05 12:03:27 +0000 UTC; Views: 14305; Favourites: 224; Downloads: 2586
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A simple, yet complex solar system (not ours, that is)I made this during the small breaks that i took during the past 4 days in which i have been hauling ass with stuff to finish for school. In fact, im taking a break to write this description now
I was looking through my stuff and noticed that i have never attempted a solar system. I have made galaxies, planets, and nebulae, but never really a system. So i went ahead and started working on one with the mindset that i would like to something good enough to hang on my wall. This is the end result.
I was planning on doing a much bigger image with this being just a section of it, but as i worked on it, i thought "hmmm this isnt bad at all, i better stop now before i overdo it"
And so i did. However i may continue to do the bigger piece later on.
Needless to say, scales be damned. Adding nebulae or any other things in the background was out of the question because they wouldve been distracting. Same goes for brighter stars and bright objects like comets. Just for the record, this isnt our solar system. But i looked at ours to see the pattern of size in planets as the planets get farther away from the sun. You may also notice that the orbits go over the planets a bit. Well this is to give the impression that the planets are attached to them. I tried turning off the orbits and it looks like a mess.
Unfortunately, the most standard long-ratio frame that i found was 11x36, which ended up being way too thin for this. I recommend online frame stores, like FramesByMail.com or things of the like.
With all that said, i still welcome your critiques and suggestions. If there is something you dont like, tell me what it is!
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Photoshop handled it pretty well back then. It wasnt as complex. The key is to streamline everything. Instead of having, say, 5 big-ass layers set to "screen" blending mode, just merge them together to make just one. And delete stuff that you won't use. Sometimes, I make duplicates of layers before I make changes to them in case i want go back. But if I'm happy with the result, I go back and delete the original version. It helps quite a lot
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I've definitely got some learning to do; your images are proof that Photoshop is a very powerful tool.
I'll take your advice on merging all of the layers, I get so flustered with all the groups/layers I end up making... I often have layers I'm not even using and end up not knowing which one I need to create a certain effect I want.
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It also helps to save the artwork at different stages
And I dont mean the "save often" thing. I mean have different files of the same project but at different stages
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The rings tutorial is nice, I found another tutorial on how to make them, but they really don't turn out that great. I haven't used any rings in any of my images yet because they just don't look right. -I'm not proficient in 3d studio max just yet, so It's going to take me a while to figure that one out (the rough particle ring). Thanks
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That sun is HUGE! There is obviously no life on any of these planets 
I really think this is beautiful. And I think my favorite part of it (I don't know why) is the asteroid belt in the center of the system.
I can't even imagine how large this piece would have to be if you were to make it more to scale & show detail at the same time.
Anyway, awesome job. Really.
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Nice picture, I like the colors. the whole painting idea makes me remember the solar system schemes that appeared in my geography book on 1st grade. They were really great!
Now, I'm not an astronomer or a celestial mechanics expert, but I think that this solar system idea its too similar to our own. I mean, there are the classic elements that caracterize our neighborhood, like lots of rocky planets, an asteroid field, a couple of gas planets, and all that. Its not very original...
You should try on the next one to use strange and totally alien solar system elements. For example, try to use a binary star system (lonely stars like our sun are very rare in the universe), multiple asteroid fields in diferent orbits, or gas giants in the first orbits instead of the last ones. Or maybe bright nebuale background (if the system is located near the galaxy core), or rocky giants, potato planets, and other strange astronomical elements. (like the fast rotating planets that after a while take the form of a bowl instead of a sphere, or binary earths, etc.)
Anyway, they're just suggestions for future paintings, I guess this one its okay as it is...
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Those are very nice ideas. They did cross my mind but I think they would be better suited for a bigger mural piece. This one is merely 12x36 and I think it'd be a bit too cramped for space if I was to include so many things and still have a respectable level of detail for them, you know?
Sorry for taking so long to reply, but I purposedly left this comment in my message center because its one of those relatively rare ocassions in which someone actually thinks that much writing a comment
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heh, heh, yeah, I usually get too excited when writing these things, people say: "Breath man!" and stuff like that...
Well... see ya!
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you DO know that there are no real lines in space, marking the path of planets!
LOL
just messin with you.
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sorry guys but i think tha the sun is bigger than it has to be! every planet will be burn! they are so close... the rings of every planet has the rong material. Im not sure but i think they just dont exist really.. they are only imaginery... i could say the same for the bigger ring of the left planet- it should be less visible. I love the colors and the fog near the sun. from yous other works yi sourly can say that you can do a much better job. congrats for your try little star
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I think the scale looks pretty good considering the p.o.v... although maybe either a) make the planet with the rings (not saturn...not saturn...) a mite smaller, or b) make the sun in the center a bit larger. Just because I'm looking at the perspective here and the other planets farthest out must be pretty small. or it could just be me. i'm not an artist.
and I must say your icon makes me smile every time I see it.
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I absolutely love this, the colors just drew me in... and I think it's a great piece. But, to echo some of the other comments, the Saturn-esque planet does look a bit too smooth, and I think the asteroid belt could be just a *little* bit more displaced, a little more broken up. I won't talk about the things others have already commented on, but the one thing that I think could be improved the most are the actual orbits of the planets themselves. They appear very circular, but actual planetary orbits are a bit oblong, like a distorted oval. I know that'd be somewhat hard to capture in this, and it's art (not science 
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avery day you sorprise me more incredible work i have much love for our sistem and now WOAHHH +fav definivtely
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this is your forte
very vibrant and captive
I am very impressed
here's a
your space work is the best
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this is good enough to use on a science classroom wall ..
excellent prodution dude...
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Well Cristian, by now you should know how brutally honest I am.
I love the colors. They are so vibrant and lively. But I really think that is all that it is going for it.
Aesthetically, it is ugly. I feel as if you made the solar system, just threw it in the middle of the starfield and called it done. What I tell most people, is that it does not engage the edges of the workspace, making the negative space of the stars seemingly obsolete. I see no attempt to create any exciting dynamic or interest. I feel this could use many diagonals to mimic the weightlessness of space. Space really has no up or down, so I feel I should see that in this. All the planets have up and down positioning. I can understand if you intended for it to look like it, but the orbit paths have no variation in angle in the slightest.
Aside from the use of light, I see no sense of depth. I am not fully convinced the planets in the back actually are placed in the back of this 3-dimensional space. I caught how the orbit paths get thinner toward the back, but it appears as if they do not change in value. They don't become less visible in the back. Not saying they should, but I thik it would help a lot if the did.
Another quick note is a lack in texture. The Saturn-esque planet in the foreground look way too smooth to be convincing. The same could be said about its rings.
This isn't a horrible piece, I just think it lacks a lot in the parts that I feel are most imortant. I hope this critique was helpful to you.
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y'know, i think you've addressed all the stuff i thought was up with this one. I saw 'dinyctis' on my deviations list, thought oh goody, looked at this one, and thought, wait a sec, is this by diny? and it was. shame, it just looked unfinished.
d'oh now i let myself rant again. oh well. Dinyctis? PLEASE update this one. It has potential. But right now it doesnt look complete.
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If i could +fav comments......
Alright, let's address the points you made
"making the negative space of the stars seemingly obsolete"
That's actually what i was going for. I couldve also dumped the starfield altogether but that wouldve been going a little too far
"I feel this could use many diagonals to mimic the weightlessness of space"
I tried many times to use diagonals, but the ratio of the canvas was limited and made me choose a horizontal layout. If i didnt have to make this a panoramic poster (something like, say, a portrait layout) then i wouldve used a lot of diagonals.
"but the orbit paths have no variation in angle in the slightest."
Tried that too, but: a) it seriously unbalanced the whole thing, especially from this perspective and layout. B) wouldve ruined the organized layout that i was going for, sort of like illustrative.
"I am not fully convinced the planets in the back actually are placed in the back of this 3-dimensional space"
It's all a 2D workspace, really. I feel that the layout and perspective is the reason for this. If i had the sun just at an upper/lower angle to the sides, it wouldve changed drastically. This wouldve been good but it wouldnt depict the system entirely, which wasnt my goal at this point.
As for the orbits, they are merely helping the diagram. Had i taken them out completely, it all wouldve been veeeeeeery random-looking. It's also worth noting tha they were solid when i first started, but as you can see, i changed that.
And finally, for the planet with the rings, i actually agree. There is that something that the other planets have. And it's the first time i use that ring technique, so there is still lots to be done.
I realize that this isnt one of my best pieces, but it's certainly among my favorites at the moment.
I really appreciate your honesty, and rock on!
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To elaborate on the diagonals idea, I might suggest keeping the same perspective on this system. At the same time, tilt it all like 30-35 degrees and increase the size so that bits of it hit the border. I think it would promote a viewing experience that involves whoever is looking at it, as if he/she were more part of the actual scene. And I'm glad I can tell you, without you going "OMG then don't look at it". lol
peace
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Tried that as well but it left 2 big empty spaces to the rop left and lower right. I dont think it wouldve been a good idea with the whole system in view. If it was just part, then it wouldve been cool.
And hell, of course you can tell me! It would be extremely foolish of me that i reached my peak and best at the age of 20.
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wow diny. so compact, and so beautiful. these space scenes are fun. your imagination puts no limit on you. great work.
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aww, muy bonito, me gusta especialmente el fade de colores del centro hacia afuera son preciosos 
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Wow, this is awesome! The whole thing is just...well, great!
Nice work!
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I think all the rings should be less visible. And interesting thing you did with your signature, don't think I like ow it looks, but I like the idea.
And great new avatar!
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I can't technically comment on any of this because it's outside of my expertise but it looks really freaking awesome
I love the fluidity and the colours, nice work my friend
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looks pretty good. Wouldn't wanna be there though with the collision danger of those planets. And the immense heat so close to the sun ofcource
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the rings would deserve some transluscence in some places...to make them less artificial
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imo it need some work caue im not sure whether planatery rings are like that but thats just me but its good i like the sun and the rocks are awesome
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Looks good, I think the orbital lines make it coherent. If you dont mind, I have a question. How do you make the somewhat larger stars? The only method I really know is to make lens flares and then scale them down. Anyway, awesome render.
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What you described is one step of the process. What you have to do is scale them down, then take the clone brush, set it to screen (top toolbar) clone it, and then let it rip! Setting it to screen will paint only the brightest spot, as opposed to the whole black background that you have when you do a lens flare.
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Active little cluster of worlds isn''t it. Beautifully done.
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Awsome work, how long did the astroid belt take? looks like it would take a while.
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Damn that's smooth.... 
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Its really cool although much of the first three planets would be fried
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and the bigger 2 would eventually collide
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