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Published: 2014-09-28 16:00:58 +0000 UTC; Views: 4473; Favourites: 107; Downloads: 0
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I was looking through the comments over on thedoctorwhosite.co.uk asking fan's what we thought about the episode 'The Caretaker', and one fan who read various comments from other fan's who goes by the username 'The Astronaut of Death' was getting really annoyed at all the moaning and wrote this -For all the people who moan about modern Doctor Who not being good as it is not classic Doctor Who stop moaning. Classic Doctor Who is over now . Telly is not like that anymore . you should either enjoy Doctor Who or stop moaning because what do you think moaning is going to do get Moffat to change the whole concept of Doctor Who and make it classic again ?. Telly is not like that anymore . . those days are gone. And to be honest all the young Doctor Who fans I know find classic Who stories boring (I don't) so just stop moaning and enjoy Doctor Who.
I for one quite agree with this fan, as I replied on the site under his comment -
Agreed. Personally, in my view, there is no such thing as CLASSIC Doctor Who or NEW Doctor Who, there is just -
D O C T O R W H O
Same series with a 16 year gap and one TV Movie in the middle. Nuff said.
So that's why I made this upload. Cos Doctor Who is just that, Doctor Who. The new series is not a remake of the original a direct continuation of it, something the new series has reminded us of in recent years.
I know I sometimes do refer to the original series as the classic series and the modern series as the new series in my Journals and comments, but Doctor Who is Doctor Who, and that is that.
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I fully agree with this. Doctor Who is and always will be, Doctor Who.
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So true. As The Doctor says “When I regenerate I’ll still be me.”
There is no classic or new doctor Who. I say Oh Giggy Aunt to you sir.
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The only problem here is that the original Doctor Who was a British comedy. For christs sake, The Daleks had plungers attached to them and were deemed the "Most evil beings in the galaxy!". The charm to the original was lost in the re-boot, simply because in the original, there was a divide between the Audience and Doctor. The audience knew that the Doctor was taking something that looked and talked absolutely ridiculous completely seriously, and that was comedic. There was a humor and wit in the original that was somewhat lost when it became a Drama. The "Exterminate, Exterminate!" Line was comedic. It was all a nice mix of genuine Sci-fi and light-hearted humor.
With the re-boot, it's become a more widespread, more merchandised series with not-so subtle and witty humor. Now, there's "Fez's" And "Bowties are cool!" T-shirts everywhere, and the Sci-fi aspect is extremely lacking compared to the original. The new version has it's good moments, yes, but if it weren't labeled "Doctor Who!" (With the obvious things such as the Tardis among other things,) It wouldn't be DR. Who. To say the first version and the re-boot weren't separate would be disingenuous. Both versions had there own strengths and weaknesses, completely separate from the other, and most importantly each had it's own vision.
The classic Doctor Who compared to the newer Doctor Who are so different that it's easy to see why people separate the two.
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The reason for why Daleks have largely always had their manipulator arms look like a typical household sink plunger is, according to their late designer Raymond P. Cusick, down to the budget they had at the time, because, like the 1960's Movie Daleks, they was ment to have a claw, not a sink plunger for a manipulator arm.
The new series is not a re-boot, it's a direct continuation of the original series. A reboot is simply when one starts all over again, such as if I said to you that the earliest 'Spider-Man' film was the 1977 film entitiled 'Spider-Man', then that was the original, and the following ones are just re-boots because they have the title character, and all other characters, recast with different actors and story details are changed between each re-boot.
2002 - Spider-Man.
2012 - The Amazing Spider-Man.
2017 - Spider Man - Homecoming.
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Whatever the case, I consider them completely different mediums. The original was a British comedy mixed with Sci-fi, while the later version is a British drama mixed with Sci-fi. Also, there's some ridiculous plots in the later one.. (Not to insult them, but a 2 part episode about Hitler working with trash cans to take over the world some-what messes with suspension of disbelief.) The cultural change, mixed with the change in television, makes the lines, scenes, characters, and comedy feel like it doesn't fit into the classical Doctor who. Which is fine! But to many of the fans, you have to see that the change from the original to the later version is a rough one. I was raised on the newer version, while my significant other watched the classic with his father and absolutely despised the newer one due to the changes it had. (I've since then come to love the classical version and say meh to the new one.)
Everyone can believe what they want to believe, but to me and many others, there is a gap between Classical Dr. Who and the New Dr. Who. I may have used the wrong term in "Reboot", but there are plenty Story changes, Atmosphere changes, Humor and Marketing changes, and so much more.
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If you listen to the 2005 theme you can hear the 1963 theme in it!
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It quite amazing that the first time you here the theme you don't understand it. But is you listen or watched the old episodes and themes you get a every gag and hints along the way. So cool
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Yeah, there's a huge amount of nostalgia goggles/elitism going on; the classics could be silly as hell, they weren't intellectually stringent un-emotional hard Sci-Fi in the slightest.
In general, I wish this fandom was less complainy and more appreciative, 'cause we've got a damn good TV show here, there's a little bit of everything in it.
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Amen, brother, amen. That's what I keep saying.
Another point in favor of this idea is that the "new" show makes a million references to the "old" show all the time. I'm not talking the obvious ones like Sarah Jane and K-9 coming back or even the various Doctors referring to the fact that he has had children. I mean things like in the 50th Anniversary Special when Tennant's Doctor said to Smith's Doctor, "OH! You've changed the desktop theme! I don't like it." I pointed from one to the other, shouted "That was what Two said to Three!" and ran around in circles for a few minutes squeeing my head off. Sad, yes, but true. They do that all the time, too! Therefore, the whole new/old business makes no SENSE because really, they're trying to make it as seamless as possible.
Could you make one that says "Look, you don't have to like it. Just try it!!" or something of the sort? You know, for the people who say "classic" or "new" is bad and they haven't even watched it yet? DX
Also, love the fact that it rhymes.
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Actually he said, "Oh you've redecorated . . . I don't like it !".
You could make that suggestion yourself if you wanted too, it is your suggestion after all
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Yeah, you're right. Sorry, wrote that at 3 a.m. >.> I still squeed when he said it, though.
I could... computers and I usually don't get along, but I suppose I could try.
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Amen to that!!! They did the same thing the whole new old thing when TNG came out 25 years ago. it's all trek.
IT'S ALL WHO
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Well, T.N.G. is just a spin-off, where as the modern series of Doctor Who is just a continuation, but yes, it's still the same Star Trek, just another generation on another Enterprise just one century ahead of the 1960's originals.
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The 1969-1980's doctor is much more play like, with four different acts to it with long scripts. The 2005-present doctor who is much more fast paced and cuts out any of the insignificant 'driving to another place' that sometimes happened in the 1969-1980's era of doctor who.
Something that hasn't changed (for the good) is the time traveling, sometimes fun, sometimes serious, doctor we all love.
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well, I often would call the 2005 series onward as revised, but heck.
I agree with you but sometimes it gets confused with the new fans that Doctor Who is just the series from 2005 onward.
so that's probably why people would keep on splitting the entire show into two parts just to explain the entire thing. (?)
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Thanks! I'll use the Era division from this point on. I already do that to the Modern Era Doctors, so why not the shows? I'm nitpick-y like that, hehe.
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If there is a multi Doctor story for the tenth anniversary of modern Doctor Who I hope they use the 2005 intro.
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I take it you don't like the latest title sequence ?.
They wouldn't use the 2005 title's just cos it's 10 years next year since the series returned, but maybe they could do something to celebrate 10 years of the new series since Russell T. Davies brought the show back and Christopher Eccleston ans Billie Piper was the 9th Doctor and Rose Tyler.
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I like the new title. I just think of reusing the title for this occasion. Because they could bring back Christopher Eccleston, Billie Piper, David Tennant, Catherine Tate, Matt Smith, Karen Gilian, Arthur William, and Alex Kingston for this special.
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David Tennant already returned last year, why does he need to return to the show now?
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You mean Arther Darvill.
Christopher Eccleston would be a big NO NO, because he has admitted that he did not feel comfortable working on Doctor Who for some reason or he did not get along with some people, or what ever his reasons may have been, so I wouldn't count on it on him ever returning, plus Steven Moffat did have a few meetings with Chris to get him to appear in last years 50th Anniversary special, 'The Day of the Doctor', but Chris still turned but did wish Steven and everyone the best of luck making the aforementioned special.
As for the others, I think a lot of fan's wouldn't want to see them all back. Most fan's sadly hate Rose, others got fed up with the 10th Doctor and his fan's who kept on saying "BRING BACK DAVID TENNANT !" all the time, Donna has no memory of the Doctor since he wiped her mind so it would be a waste of time bringing Donna back, Matt only just recently left so his return would be too soon, and as for Karen and Arther, yes Amy and Rory are dead, but Karen did say she didn't want them to return as it would mean the deaths of Amy and Rory would be spoiled if they came back [yes I know Karen came back at the end of 'The Time of the Doctor', but she was playing a figment of the Doctor's imagination before he regenerated], and as for River, well, she's dead and some fan's like me can't stand her so no more returns for her, plus Alex's last moments as River in 'The Name of the Doctor' was clearly written to be her final lines just to finally say goodbye to her character.
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Well for Donna, Amy, Rory, and River they could be from a specific point in the timestream before they left.
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