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DORUmonXXX In reply to crookedalley [2013-06-17 14:49:36 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm but it seems to be just regular envy, e.g. Hermione haters just say that she's not a Mary Sue. Cause what? Cause THEY don't like her? For me it's just hating some character.
Mine characters aren't perfect and noone says me such a things but I don't like when someone critic anything without a reason cause what "boring" means?
The most common definition is "I don't like it so I call it boring", it's sad true.

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crookedalley In reply to DORUmonXXX [2013-06-17 15:14:01 +0000 UTC]

People don't call it boring because they don't like it, usually they don't like it because they find it boring. "Boring" in this case is defined as "unable to hold my interest". Hence my previous assertion that Sueism is largely subjective, and thus a character being objectively labeled a Mary Sue is heavily contingent upon the unanimous agreement of the audience.

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DORUmonXXX In reply to crookedalley [2013-06-17 15:25:35 +0000 UTC]

But they think they could judge what is or what isn't nice. I'm Anti-hater to anything in the Internet. So I decided to made this stamp which shows that it's not their interests how the character is or not.

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crookedalley In reply to DORUmonXXX [2013-09-01 00:29:54 +0000 UTC]

"But they think they could judge what is or what isn't nice." 

They can. This is what is known as freedom of opinion, or democracy. Humans judge things naturally. It is an impulse we evolved over millions of years. 

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DORUmonXXX In reply to crookedalley [2013-09-01 00:59:13 +0000 UTC]

No. It isn't. And it's not also an impulse. It's just human nature of "I'm beter and know everything better than You".

It's not "I don't like Your character", it's like "OMG U AR IDIOT COS YU DID SO STUPID CHARAKTER!!!1!!11!one". It's not opinion. It's hatered.

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crookedalley In reply to DORUmonXXX [2013-09-01 08:00:56 +0000 UTC]

Hatred often has a catalyst. Remember this.

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DORUmonXXX In reply to crookedalley [2013-09-01 17:06:34 +0000 UTC]

Hatred has no excuse. I can say "Skyrim is for stupid idiots" but no, I culturaly say "I don't like Skyrim. It's boring game". See the difference? I don't forbid people to criticize things, but criticize isn't a hating. Hating is for kids, regardless how old they are. And critizizing has reason, hatered usually not (and even so, then it's very very different to comment sth normally and with hating).

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crookedalley In reply to DORUmonXXX [2013-09-02 08:31:12 +0000 UTC]

You're talking about rudeness versus civility, and for the most part I agree, but people aren't required to be polite. 

And hatred, like most emotions, is something you can't control. You might as well ask people to stop loving things. 

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DORUmonXXX In reply to crookedalley [2013-09-02 10:04:55 +0000 UTC]

But I mean rather Internet hatered and about this one You are talking about I can control my hatered for about 5-7 years. I am hateless. I mean, sometimes I very dislike sth but I never hate it. By the way Internet hatered is sth about just "I don't like it so it's stupid". It's rather opinion than emotion.

"I don't like Your character, it's bad because You use not so interesting story in it and it's a bit copied from(...)". Sth like that is normal opinion and I don't mean people disliking things.

"Lol, You are stupid! Your character is boring and stupid too!". This is hating. And I'm rather talking about sth like that.

And I'm not talking it because someone hate my characters cause I even don't show people my OCs, only some and it's very seldom. I have 1000+ characters (more and less important ones) but only few of them I uploaded to dA and it's only because it's art (actually generated). I don't even post descriptions. The only exception is my newest one and some random mountain dragoness, I posted short description. I don't really care what people say or would say about my characters but I just saw this in the Internet so I make this stamp.

Oh... sorry for my very bad english. I hope You could understand me though.

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crookedalley In reply to DORUmonXXX [2013-09-13 05:53:54 +0000 UTC]

Dislike is merely a mild hatred, and hatred an extreme dislike. 

But again, you seem to be confusing "hatred" for "rudeness". You're okay with somebody not liking your work, you would just rather they not be mean about it, yes? 

And your English is decent. I could understand you.

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DORUmonXXX In reply to crookedalley [2013-09-13 11:12:04 +0000 UTC]

I don't treat disliking as hatered... uh. I do. But it's different between hatered hatered and hatered kind of emotions. This one is only pure hatered, last one is everything which is not positive or neutral. But it's not the same.

I mean that if someone don't like my art or sth then I'm okay. Untill he start just hating. Hate for no reason, for just pue hatered (I don't know why I just hate it) or e.g. because he don't like the person. Like disliking videos on YT before they'll be even available to see. It's pure hatered.

Oh, It's good that You could understand me. It's the most important thing in conversation

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