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Published: 2008-07-20 11:29:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 2952; Favourites: 61; Downloads: 38
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It's a trick question; Diana knows how to fly and Aldara naturally rides when she does. . . most of the time. . . Hey look a trick question!
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Aldara = Meg & Herc's daughter from the Disney movie
Diana = Female pegasus, given to Aldara much the same way Pegasus was given to Herc
Every time I watch that movie, I hurt a little more for how badly butchered the actual Greek mythology is. Alternatively, I also feel all warm 'n fuzzy cause Disney movies always rub me the right way. Yes sir, no sexual innuendo here. Nope. Not even a wink.
Style (c) Disney
Characters (c) Moi
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Butchering the original is best Disney tradition. For example, Hans Christian Andersen would rotate in his grave if he knows what they have done with his little mermaid.
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Yeah probably, but Disney's goal is to leave you with a happy, fuzzy feeling that won't offend anyone else. Having Ariel turn into sea foam and work to earn a soul for the afterlife would've been sure to spark lawsuits. Besides, Disney's version is incredible, too. (I was one of the little girls who wanted desperately to be Ariel as a child. I didn't find and read the original version until adulthood twenty years later.)
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And that's the problem. It could (and would) changes the original message completely. I don't say, that the original is better. But not to change it is a kind of respect of the author's work.
Here I am quite strict: It's the same in inverted sense. At DA and other spaces in the web you find tons of stuff showing comic and cartoon characters (often from Disney) more or less nude. Many of them are drawn very well, but it's not proper in my eyes. Don't take me wrong: I am not offended by nuditiy if it's made with taste and skill. But that doesn't fit with the creator's ambitions.
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I suppose it comes down to what you were introduced to first. Usually I have a ton of issues with any variations upon the original of something, but like I said in my pic, this version of Hercules I'm strangely okay with, despite the numerous errors and changes made in it. I guess because it's dressed up just to be fun and silly?
The Little Mermaid is another thing altogether. The Disney version was the only version I knew of for years, and even after learning of the original tale, I was unable to find it for years more. I suppose the movie is just so dear to me that I can't take offense with any of the changes (though some of them do confuse or even irritate me in hindsight). It all comes back to perspective.
As for nude versions of things, yeeeaaaahhhh, there's some lines that shouldn't be crossed. Interestingly enough, there's a concept artist who'd worked on Lilo and Stitch here on DeviantART, and you can tell in the art he posts. Thing is, he posts lots of risque things, curvier ladies in bikinis and such. It's because of his art style so closely matching Nani's that I can't even enjoy his work. Which is sad, really, because it's pretty damn good art stand-alone.
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You spot something important: Disney is a media giant. If they adapt a story, the whole world will know it after. The problem is, many people don't know the original (for example if it's a local legend) they just seen the happy-go-lucky version by Disney. Arielle is one example for it, Pocahontas another. The last one shows really good what I want to say. I was born in central europe and still live there. Before Disney made a movie about her, this story was completly unknown here. I made some research about the real Pocahontas, and after that, the animated movie was just disgusting for me. And because she really lived, and her story isn't anything than a fairy tale including happy end, this changes are even worse for me than butchering a imaginary story, it's close to faking history imho!
I also would like to say, that there's nothing wrong for me about your drawing and the idea behind. It's a kind of a sequentel to the movie. An interesting idea well realised!
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This is where we might clash with perspectives. Pocahontas, for example, wasn't about history to me. It was about perspective itself. The Europeans thought the Natives were savages (outlined in their song) because they were "uncivilized", but the fact is, they never really looked into them, other than John Smith. The Natives were the same; they thought the Europeans were the savages. In the movie itself, it definitely painted the Europeans as the aggressors and the wrong ones, the ones doing everything negative whereas the Natives were just out to protect themselves.
So that's what I tend to look for in these movies. It's not just about an accurate portrayal of the tale, be it fictional or non, but about the message hidden in the dialogue. It's about the actions and the adventures and the obstacles we see be overcome. Even as an American, I don't know much about Pocahontas (I didn't pay much attention in History class beyond the sixth grade), but I have heard plenty. Many people like to rant or tear down Disney's portrayal of their stories, but when they do this, all I see is how they're ignoring truth for fact -- morality for accuracy.
Both are equally important, and the way I see it, if you watch and enjoy a Disney movie, then do an independent search afterwards into the tale while taking in the message the movie gave you, then Disney did their job and you did yours. It's a team effort, essentially.
As for my drawing, you'll find (if you look further into my gallery) that I have a weird fascination with continuing Disney movies through the children of the main characters. Aside from Aldara here, I've also given Aladdin and Jasmine twin sons and toyed around with a few others (nameless). Aldara is one of my favorites, and the story I'm trying to make for her would actually delve further into Greek Mythology. I plan on including Persephone at some point and maybe altering Hades' appearance (as he won't need the fire-hair and sharp teeth once he's no longer a villain).
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OK, that's a point of view which I can easy accept. You and I, we don't just watch the movies and take it as it is. We do research about the topic and that give us the oppurtunity to make our own opinion. The problem for me are those people, who just watch and don't think about.
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Those people you can't really help. They're happy in their perceptions and won't change it without a hell of a lot of pushing.
Disney's new movie Frozen is a good example of this conflict, though. There's people, like me, who watched it and was very inspired by how it was portrayed. Then you have others who utterly hated it because they couldn't separate the original tale from this interpretation, and they just straight knocked it instead of focusing on the positives. I couldn't even begin to list all the times I've found people hating on the movie, citing it as openly racist more than anything else. It seems like there's no middle ground for this one.
It's rather sad cause I want to point out all the positives the movie has, yet those ones refuse to listen.
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I didn't seen it yet, I just know that is it (more or less) inspirated by the snow queen, also from Andersen by the way.
As mentioned before, Disneys medial impact is enormous. It could really happens, that more people knows their version of a story than the original. If now many people, unaware of the original, thinks and saying, that the Disney version is the real stuff, that's whatΒ makes me unhappy.
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Yeah I was being careful about how much I said because I didn't know if you saw it or not. I'd recommend it anyway, if only so you form your own opinion about it.
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From the movie? Yeah, I used her for reference, it being in the style and all.
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Yeah, she's cute!
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Yes! Someone else who knows all of the mythological inaccuracies that made this movie so painful
Aldara's design is really great
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Painful maybe, but I love it just the same. It's my favorite Disney movie, even if they did butcher the mythology to make it.
Thanks.
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Bad mythology aside, it's actually a pretty fun movie, I'll admit
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My favorite part of Disney movies?
All the catchy songs. 
Yeah it WOULD be hard to market, huh? 
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And Hercules had some pretty good ones
But there wasn't any blood and Hydra was a non-anthropomorphized, not-cute stock monster without any lines-- it's totally legit
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He still cut his way out of its throat and was then covered in green goo. 
But you cheered for him anyway cause he was having so much trouble with it. 
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It's still not blood
Yeah, true.
Okay, put it this way: If I didn't know all of the correct mythology, this movie wouldn't be intellectually painful. The art style's nice, the songs are good, and the characters are somewhat memorable
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It always bothered me that Pegasus was with Herc when he was Perseus' mount. And that he wasn't born from clouds, but from Medusa's affair with Poseidon.
That was actually my pet peeve through the whole movie. Everything else I could shrug off.
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Pegasus was also the steed of Bellerophon (albeit briefly), and was born from the blood from Medusa's neck after Perseus beheaded her
The list of things that peeve me about the movie is HUGE!
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Yeah, Pegasus sprang from her neck. But he's actually the child of her and Poseidon, since -- while human -- she had an affair with Poseidon in Athena's temple. Hence the whole curse thing. And apparently she couldn't give birth as a gorgon, so Pegasus wasn't "born" till the beheading. . .
Such strange things the Greeks came up with, huh? Didja know they believed that lions couldn't reproduce with each other, only with leopards?
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Riiiiight
I didn't know that! So the possibility of a liger was real to the Greeks? Or liopards?
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I don't know about the liger thing, but occasionally Zeus would curse lovers by turning them both into lions so they could never be together again.
That's what happened to Atalanta and her husband.
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Even though I really don't like a lot of Disney movies (princess movies mainly. Sexist chauvinistic pieces of CRAP!), Hercules was one of my favorite Disney cartoons, even though the mythology is way wrong.
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I have no clue what cel shading is. I'm going to be using Pam-shading.
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[link] <-- Cel shading.
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In other words. . . how I've been coloring all along, but with multiple layers. . .
I'll stick to Pam-shading.
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Yeah, I don't really care for doing cel-shading myself. I can't get the lines straight. X__X But I do like how it looks.
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And here I was gonna ask, "Do you use cel-shading?" Guess there's my answer.
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LOL yeah.
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Ahh, reminds me of the time I tried to draw manga-style. . . Yeah, not very pretty.
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It's weird how manga style is so hard! O___o You'd think it would be one of the easiest styles, since everything is so simplistic, but there's something about it that really takes you by surprise. >__>
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Maybe it's too repetitive. . . I can't draw the same face twice, ever.
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That could be it.
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lol i thought she looked familiar...makes sense now...plus has that Disney feel when you colored it...great job
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Looks even better coloured. I like how you just gave some flat colour to it.
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Nope, more detail to come.
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well done... ^_^
I still love Disney animations...
"The Sword and The Stone" is still my all time favorite...
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You're right, Disney movies are so awesome!
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That cape of hers is actually Herc's first.
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