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DucessaEva In reply to ??? [2019-11-03 21:07:06 +0000 UTC]
Kehe, thanks~
Honestly it depends on the support, but I do like Xander/Sakura in particular~ I like the idea of Ryoma/Camilla, but I really wish they had a better support that wasn't so Corrin-centric X'D Just, honestly if all the Corrin-centric supports got rewritten to have nothing to do with Corrin that would be sooo much better XD
Eh, I'm pretty neutral on Oboro tbh..she has some good supports, but then some of them get kinda weird..I dunno XD Though her and Elise being friends would be really cute honestly~ ...Actually, you know what would be amazing? If Oboro could marry Leo, then she would have a sister-in-law and a son who are super into fashion OuO
Honestly I do wish some of the non-royals could support with or marry royals from the other kingdom--there's a few who could have really interesting conversations. But then, there's a loooooot of characters in this game whose potential got absolutely wasted, so I guess it's just along those lines...
Fair enough with Hoshido~ I just prefer the Nohr characters more myself XD Admittedly I am a little biased, because I played Conquest first, not to mention that the game presents such a strong "Hoshido is good Nohr is irredeemably awful" vibe when the idea of the game is supposed to be that both choices are valid, that it just makes me more sympathetic towards Nohr XD Though if we were choosing where to live, I guess Hoshido has magic turns-enemies-peaceful walls, so that would be a very nice place to live XD
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CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-10-31 18:58:31 +0000 UTC]
I ship it ^^ also Corrin looks beautiful in Azura's outfit
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-10-31 22:59:44 +0000 UTC]
Xander was my first husband in Revelations tbh, I love him in his supports especially the ones with Corrin, Sakura, Laslow, Leo, Effie and Felicia
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-10-31 23:13:39 +0000 UTC]
Nice~ He was my first husband in Conquest personally ouo I love his supports so much, Corrin and Laslow and Sakura are some of my faves! Nyx is another really good one with him too~
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 00:54:33 +0000 UTC]
I had to reread his supports and Nyx is also a good one, His supports with Camilla are also surprisingly good too imo. My first Conquest husband was Arthur because when I visited a Conquest castle for the first time (as I started with Birthright) he won me over with the line "In the name of justice I present you with some ore....of justice". My first Birthright husband was Silas (Also since I had no idea about a certain thing you had to do before a certain chapter I lost my favourite ninja)
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-01 01:00:12 +0000 UTC]
Honestly most of his supports are really good~ And pff, Arthur is pretty great yeah XD And nice with Silas too~ I think I married Shigure in Birthright just because I couldn't think of anyone else, though in hindsight I probably should've gone for Hinata XD
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 01:17:39 +0000 UTC]
I have married Shigure before in Birthright and I loved his support with both F!Corrin and M!Corrin. I have both physical and digital copies of Birthright and Conquest and I'm trying to fill up the support log (which isn't very easy especially with Conquest)
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-01 01:57:21 +0000 UTC]
Sweet~ I've tried to do some support grinding myself, though I don't think I got very far with it XD
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 02:44:38 +0000 UTC]
I doubt I'm even halfway tbh. Since I have physical copies of both games it's twice the work. I just enjoy reading through alot of them for character development
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-01 02:46:39 +0000 UTC]
Yeahhh, I can imagine...especially if you wanted to get all the parent/child supports, that would take forever XD They're definitely fun to read though~
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 02:50:33 +0000 UTC]
Oh gods don't remind me. Getting them all is a nightmare, especially when you're also trying to pass down certain skills to the child units. One irritating thing I learned was that if one of the parents learned a new skill on the child units map, the kid gets that skill instead and it's incredibly frustrating
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-01 02:53:52 +0000 UTC]
Oof, I can imagine :S I generally don't even try with the child units personally, just because they're so frustrating X'D
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 03:19:34 +0000 UTC]
I like most child units both in Fates and Awakening. The only ones I don't like are Severa, Laurent, Rhajat and Hisame not to say they're bad units I just dont like their personalities (my only complaint with Laurent is pairing his mother and his recruitment map). All the others I love for one reason or another be it personality, usefulness in battle, supports or all the above
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 04:23:03 +0000 UTC]
I like his support with Shigure and his mother but other than that he's just too obsessive about pickles for me. I think my favourite none avatar romantic supports would have to be Sakura/Xander, Setsuna/Subaki, Leo/Nyx, Azama/Beruka, Arthur/Azura, Saizo/Mozu, Hana/Hayato and Camilla/Kaze
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-01 04:28:09 +0000 UTC]
Fair, I don't like the pickles thing either...but he has a few good supports not involving pickles anyway XD
And ooh, those are some good ones for sure~ I think Jakob/Mozu is another good one? If I remember correctly, it's one of the only supports where he isn't a total jerk to the other person, which is nice XD
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 05:01:14 +0000 UTC]
My favourite Jakob supports are with Mozu, Sakura, Azura, Hinoka, Kagero and Hana (I have only seen his full support with Peri for Nohr which is why it's mainly Hoshido ladies)
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-01 05:07:24 +0000 UTC]
That's fair ouo I don't think I've seen many of his supports personally...mostly because he's kind of a dick and I don't like him that much X'D
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 05:45:57 +0000 UTC]
In Azura's support with him, he explains his childhood and why he pretty much became a jerk to most people. It's actually quite sad when you read it, In his support with Hinoka he helps her relearn how to act in court with other nobles and how politics are a battle all there own
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-01 16:18:31 +0000 UTC]
That's fine I'm just saying it gives a lot of insight to his behaviour and why he warms to people slowly. I love his support with Hinoka plus Dwyer looks good with her hair colour
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-02 04:51:50 +0000 UTC]
Nice~ I think one of my favorites for Hinata is Peri, mostly because of how the S support is handled ouo I really like S supports where the confessions lead to just dating, instead of instant marriage XD
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-02 06:13:16 +0000 UTC]
I dont remember his support with her, then again I dont like Peri much mainly due to her personality. The three support chains I like of hers that I remember are the ones with Laslow, Benny and Odin
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-02 23:06:28 +0000 UTC]
It wasn't much, but the S support was basically him asking her out on a date and her saying yes~ I just like it when the supports end with dating, because it leaves open the interpretation that they spent awhile getting to know each other before getting married, instead of just rushing into it XD
But yeah, Peri can be kind of rough...I did like hers with Odin a lot though~
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-02 23:31:15 +0000 UTC]
I like that too. It reminds me of the support chain with M!Kana and Selkie, I think Ghast puts it best why I don't like Peri's personality especially with all the other supports (S Support is worse in this case) they just give up on trying to put her on the right path and to make her stop killing people for fun/sport and it physically pains me to see it
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-03 00:12:18 +0000 UTC]
Most of the ones with M!Kana break my heart with how they friendzone him so brutally the worst of the ones I've read is Caeldori. Midori and I think it's either Mitama or Rhajat agree to date him like Selkie does but the others it just hurts especially with how much of a sweetheart he is. F!Kana does have it a little better but some of hers feel kinda forced.
Speaking of child supports just like with Owain & Lucina in Awakening, Midori & Asugi can S Support which just feels so wrong to me.
Peri is literally the only one written inconsistently like that and it irritates me, I did find another of her supports I liked and it was her one with Kaze which mainly focuses on her cooking skills, not once was murder or death mentioned or if it was it was very minor.
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-03 00:27:32 +0000 UTC]
Ugh, I know right?? Like, no other character gets treated that harshly, I don't understand why he gets this treatment :S Like, if the problem is that he's a little kid, then he just shouldn't have any kind of romance at all and his S supports should be "let's be best friends!", and they should've given him equal treatment to femKana...
Not to mention all the potential cousin ships you can do because of all the royals and their children XD Sooo many cousins X'D
Yeah, same :S I wish she had more supports like that..
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-03 16:03:58 +0000 UTC]
I so agree on that front! F!Kana's support with Shigure and Hisame both feel very forced to me. What makes me sad for F!Kana is that the only sibling she can have is Shigure and it hurts since I love the interactions M!Kana has with his siblings. I feel like the female royals should at least have their own kids. I love both Kana's so that's another way the should have made things equal.
True enough but considering that Midori and Asugi in their supports are more best friend type cousins I'd rather they didn't have S Support and just go up to A (Same with Owain and Lucina it's just kinda creepy having direst cousins marry like that).
Peri isn't the only one with very few good supports, Camilla is another character who's supports aren't very nice to read with only very few good ones mixed in.
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-03 21:21:28 +0000 UTC]
I know right? It kinda feels like the sisters got shorted--none of them get legendary weapons or their own kids or anything. Definitely would've been nice for them to have kids, then we could have more (platonic) cousin relationships and more siblings for femKana and everything~
Yeahhh same XD At least the English version of Awakening tried to pretend that Owain and Lucina were just "best friends", but with those two, oof XD
Oof, Camilla...yeah, I honestly like her a lot as a character, but only when Corrin isn't around and she isn't thinking about Corrin X'D Which is sadly what most of her character and supports are based on...but she has a couple decent ones, like Niles~
I'm still never going to get over that she doesn't get to support with Azura though. Like, Azura supports with every other royal sibling except her--and Camilla actually knew of her from when they were children before Azura was kidnapped, and talks about it when they meet in...either Revelations or Conquest? I forget which, but either way, they talk about it and then they never go anywhere with it and they don't get to support and ugh, it bothers me >.>
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-03 22:13:41 +0000 UTC]
Definitely! It sucks, they are part of the ROYAL families they should've at least had children of their own! Worse part is for F!Kana is that the only other person M!Corrin can support with that has a kid himself is Niles but instead of having a surrogate it just locks both Nina and F!Kana from being recruited which irritates me as I really do like Nina. Speaking of same sex marriages I wish Soleil and Silas were options for it (Soleil especially because it's pretty much said at the end of her recruitment chapter that she's canonically bisexual)
I was irritated at the fact Camilla didn't get a support with Azura or Sakura in Rev (Hinoka and Elise also should've gotten a support in Rev) she mentions in both Conquest and Revelations that she knew and saw Azura around the castle as a child. I think the only other supports I like of Camilla's are the ones with Niles, Kaze, Benny, Arthur and Her Siblings. Her supports with Ryoma and Takumi aren't the best but they aren't the worst either, Her worst supports to me personally are the ones with Silas, Jakob, Laslow and Selena (Especially those last three)
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-03 22:35:47 +0000 UTC]
It really does! And ugh, I hate that the gay marriages locked out the children too--like, surrogate is an option, adoption is a thing, there's so many ways they could have kids instead of just leaving them out. And Soleil absolutely should've been a gay option yeah XD
Just, there's so many support potential that just got wasted. I'm still mad too that Shura and Azura don't support--like, he's the one who kidnapped her as a child, that right there is more interesting conversation than half of Peri or Camilla's supports. But noooooope :S
And definitely agreed with Camilla's supports~ Personally I don't like hers with Takumi either, it reminds me too much of her obsessing over Corrin and like, wanting to be his big sister while also marrying him? It's weird :S
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-03 23:53:18 +0000 UTC]
Sooo true! It's honestly quite disappointing really, I think Ghast's support science on Camilla's personality really sums things up the best here's a
link: m.youtube.com/watch?v=AF97hm3Sā¦
Shura definitely should've had more supports especially with Azura, Ryoma, Xander, Yukimura (As Shura hints in either Birthright or Conquest that Yukimura hired him to kidnap Azura), Saizo and Kaze, Felicia and Jakob too. Same with Reina, Yukimura and Scarlet.
Reina could've had supports with Kagero, Orochi (I mean c'mon those two plus Yukimura are said to have been Mikoto's retainers), Yukimura, Hinoka, Subaki and Ryoma.
Yukimura could've had supports with Shura, Reina, Scarlet, Orochi, Ryoma, Sakura, Takumi, Hinoka, Kaze, and the royals retainers. Plus Yukimura and Reina could've S Supported and had their own kid (They're close in age too).
Scarlet is the biggest one plus I didnt like her support with M!Corrin so his should be changed too. She could've supported Takumi, Felicia, Jakob, Silas, Saizo, Azama, Yukimura and the biggest one of all Ryoma
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-04 00:26:09 +0000 UTC]
Gunter definitely should've had supports with the Conquest royals, Azura plus Flora & Felicia as they're also Corrin's retainers, him supporting with Silas, Peri, Benny, Effie, Kaze and Arthur would've been interesting too. Flora also needed more supports with Jakob (It's a freaking Chrom/Cordelia all over again and it makes me sad T^T), Elise, Silas, Gunter, Kaze, Leo, Xander and Camilla (It'd be interesting at least). I also wish Gunter was recruited in Birthright cuz if he was I'd let him get revenge by killing Hans like I let Takumi kill Iago.
Ghast has support science for many different FE Characters so I'd give them a watch he did a 2 parter on Xander as well if you wanna link to the first part of it?
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-04 00:33:30 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, definitely with all of those~ Just, it's ridiculous how there's so many shitty supports in the actual game, and then they had all these characters with perfect reasons/relationship to drive an interesting support chain, and then they don't do it >.>
Yeah, I've watched most of his support science videos, though it's been awhile since I have~ He does make some good points with some of them, though I remember having some strong opinions about the Xander ones...X'D
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-04 01:17:57 +0000 UTC]
I also dont like how certain supports change depending on if your playing as M!Corrin or F!Corrin. I also wish that more characters had input at certain points in the story, like say for instance Wolfskin Peak if you don't A Support Kaze and he dies have characters freaking react to that ones like the royals, Kagero, his wife if you marry him to someone before then and biggest of all Saizo his twin!
The Xander one is a favourite of mine and brings up many valid points, I'm planning to write a Fire Emblem story myself tbh either a Fates or Awakening one haven't decided which yet it's one of the reasons I'm watching them
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-04 01:35:22 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, same XD Honestly Kaze's entire death is so random and I don't even know why it's in there, especially since it can be avoided by getting an A support :S
It's not bad, but like...for one thing, if I remember correctly, Ghast argues that his reaction after Elise's death is totally out of character and another example of bad writing? But I've always thought that Xander's reaction was intentional--he was trying to provoke Corrin so they would find it easier to kill him, because at that point he wanted to die. Being an out-of-character asshole in that moment was exactly what he was trying to do. It's not like what he was doing was a good reaction, but I can empathize with why he did it and why he thought it was his only option.
Though I'm mostly likely biased because I absolutely adore Xander, and have put waaay too much thought into everything he does, but still XD
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-04 02:04:29 +0000 UTC]
I think the worst part of that is that you literally get no warning or hint that you need to do that support plus it only happens in Birthright, other avoidable deaths in Birthright being Flora, Lillith and Keaton
Ghast was trying to be as unbiased as possible so there is that to consider, I think what pains me the most is that he disregards Elise's final request to get him to stop fighting and in his dying speech Xander literally admitted he knew that Garon had changed for the worst. Dying the way he did left a bad taste in my mouth, I feel like instead of dying to Corrin he should've just been defeated like Camilla and Leo were but followed Corrin's army as they went to confront Garon and hearing what Garon says in regards to Elise's death, finally confronts the man and dies trying to help Corrin dethrone Garon
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-04 02:13:30 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, exactly--it just comes out of nowhere because, they thought they needed more deaths? It's just random and pointless :S
I mean, he wasn't disregarding it so much as trying to make it end, via his death--he didn't want Laslow and Peri to show up with reinforcements and he was visibly upset when they did. The only person he intended to die there was himself.
Like, it would've been nice if he'd been able to join Corrin, but I think as Xander saw it he was trapped--he's the crown prince of Nohr, his kingdom is being invaded, they're trying to kill his father the king. If he just stepped aside for the Hoshidan forces, it'd be like he was betraying his people--even if they didn't like Garon, they probably wouldn't have supported him as king after that, he'd be seen as a traitor. Not to mention, the game glosses over how awful it is for the people when a kingdom is occupied, probably because talking about that would've made Hoshido look bad and they're supposed to be the good guys.
So basically, if he steps aside then his father is killed and his people are subjugated by Hoshido, and even if Hoshido props him up as a ruler, he'd be trapped under their jurisdiction and forced to do whatever they told him to do. So by fighting and dying, at least he wasn't betraying his people. It's not necessarily a fact that Hoshido would've been a terrible occupying force, or that they would've used Xander as a puppet ruler, but it was a very real possibility, and after accidentally killing his own sister he just wanted it to end.
TL;DR, it was a messy situation, and maybe Xander should've tried to find a better way, but I can at least empathize with him feeling trapped and betrayed and making a bad decision...
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-04 06:54:31 +0000 UTC]
I don't think the Hoshidan's would force him to do what they said and he'd know that as Corrin wouldn't let them but I get where your coming from. Fates story had good ideas but many were implemented poorly
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-04 08:47:23 +0000 UTC]
I mean, Corrin is so clueless about literally everything that they might just take off to do something else and not even notice XD But yeah, Fates has a looot of wasted potential sadly :S
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-04 09:51:01 +0000 UTC]
Yeahhhhhh, it's never good when the main protagonist of the story is a clueless dumbass X'D
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-04 17:21:13 +0000 UTC]
Corrin has personality in supports but it doesn't show in the story. Damn manga writer I'm also weirded out that you can marry your 'siblings' hell it was months after getting Conquest that I found out about Revelations
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DucessaEva In reply to CrystalSummerCat96 [2019-11-05 04:06:27 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes, anyway XD I feel like the personality got improved a lot in the Fire Emblem Warriors supports, which is cool~
And ouch with both of those X'D
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CrystalSummerCat96 In reply to DucessaEva [2019-11-05 04:17:01 +0000 UTC]
I just facepalmed especially when someone told me that it had the 'canonical' story/ending I was just like wtf is the point of the other two if this 3rd path makes the choice worthless. I haven't seen or played Fire Emblem Warriors so I wouldn't know that
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