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ascoli00 [2017-11-30 16:32:06 +0000 UTC]
Great picture
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Yu-Gi-Nos [2016-03-29 16:41:28 +0000 UTC]
wow! great work here! best depiction of bull leaping Ive seen! A++
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Ivymantled [2014-09-08 06:08:31 +0000 UTC]
I love that book too, and just got back from visting Knossos and the Heraklion Archaeological Museum - which are both amazing.
Thanks for creating this great image of what bull leaping might have looked like. I agree with a lot of the elements in this.
Well done.
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Paquito-2 [2013-12-03 15:33:01 +0000 UTC]
Hello, dylazuna
Je crois savoir que des essais acrobatiques ont été tentés il y a quelques années et que ces sauts que nous montrent les peintures crétoises n'ont en fait rien d'impossible avec un entrainement adéquat et une absence de peur totale des taureaux.
Vous savez sans doute que l'on ignore l'origine exacte des Minoens mais qu'elle se situe sans doute quelque part dans ce qui est aujourd'hui la Turquie. Or nous savons par les découvertes de Çatal Höyük et bien d'autres que le culte du taureau appartient à la plus ancienne des civilisations urbaines.
En tout état de cause, cette image est splendide et laisse à penser de la beauté de ces spectacles dans lesquelles la mise à mort de l'animal ne devait pas exister.
Francois
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Paquito-2 In reply to dylazuna [2013-12-09 17:09:51 +0000 UTC]
Votre langage français ne m'ennuie pas du tout. Il est au contraire assez coloré et je vous remercie de l'employer.
Pour ce qui est des chats, j'en ai toujours eu depuis ma naissance (même à l'armée j'avais réussi à en recueillir deux).
Quand je suis né, mes parents avaient un chat qui m'a adopté à ma naissance. Ma mère me racontait que pour chacune de mes sorties de bébé, il se mettait sur le landau, à la grande joie des passants dans la rue.
Aujourd'hui nous en avons deux. Un chat "Chartreux" (il ressemble au British Shortair) qui à cinq ans + un petit chat noir que nous avons recueilli et qui a le même âge. Et deux chiens, une petite Shi Tzu qui a aujourd'hui 14 ans et que nous avons achetée à l'âge de deux mois et un papillon (ou Continental Toy Spaniel) qui a six ans et que nous avons adopté parce que sa propriétaire malade, pensait le faire piquer. Nous avons aussi deux perruches qui ont en gros 12 ans. Je n'aime pas les oiseaux en cage mais ils appartenaient à des parents qui sont décédés.
Auparavant, nous avons eu un chat norvégien (qui a vécu 12 ans), puis encore avant un "Sacré de Birmanie décédé à 17 ans) et aussi un "Blue Persan" mort à 16 ans et demi...
Voilà nos amis de ces 25 dernières années.
J'aimerais bien que vous disiez quels sont vos peintres préférés...
Your French language does not bothers me at all. It is on the contrary quite colorful and thank you for using it.
Regarding cats, I always got from my birth (even to the army I had managed to collect two).
When I was born, my parents had a cat that adopted me at my birth. My mother told me that for each of my baby outings, he came on the pram to the delight of passers-by in the street.
Today we have two cats. A "Chartreux" (it looks like the British Sshortair) which in five years + a small black cat that we have collected and has the same age. And two dogs, a little Shi Tzu who is now 14 years old and that we purchased at the age of two months and a "Pipillon Dog" (or Continental Toy Spaniel) who is six years old and we adopted because its sick owner, thought making him prick. We have also two parakeets that have roughly 12 years. I do not like birds in a cage, but they belonged to relatives who have died.
Previously, we had a Norwegian cat (who has lived 12 years), and then again before a "Sacré de Birmanie" deceased in 17 years) and also a"Blue Persian"died in 16 and a half years..."
This is our friends in these past 25 years.
I'd like you to tell what are your favorite painters...
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Paquito-2 In reply to dylazuna [2013-12-15 14:55:49 +0000 UTC]
Bonjour, dylazuna
Je vois que votre époux a eu une remarquable influence sur vous
Mes goûts sont aussi éclectiques mais j'ai appris de dessin des des écoles spécialisés et j'en ai fait pour mon plaisir quelques années avant (peut-être vingt ans) de passer à la photo noir et blanc (développement et agrandissement).
En fait j'aime beaucoup d'artistes depuis l'art égyptien jusqu''à l'art contemporain. Nous pourrons en reparler si vous voulez
Mais je pense que vous aimerez l'artiste ci-dessous : Leonor Fini.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=luC9hr…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iROijG…
Nous avons une seule litographie d'elle (car elle est chère) mais deux de l'artiste espagnol Alvar et une douzaine du français Mathonnat ainsi que quelques autres comme Kiora. Ils peuplent les murs du salon et de la chambre .
Bravo pour l'espace de tendresse et de liberté que vous offrez à vos 12 chats. C'est formidable.
Au plaisir de vous lire
François
Hello, dylazuna
I see that your husband has had a remarkable influence on you
My tastes are also eclectic but I learned drawing in specialized schools and I drawed for my pleasure a few years (perhaps twendy years) before switch to the black and white photo (also development and enlargement).
I like many artists from the antik art Egyptian to contemporary art. We can discuss it again if you want.
But I think you'll like the artist below: Leonor Fini.
www.YouTube.com/watch?v=luC9hr… & gl = US
www.YouTube.com/watch?v=iROijG…
We have a single lithograph of her (because she is expensive) but two of the Spanish artist "Alvar" and a dozen of the French "Mathonnat Michel" and a few others, like Kiora. They fill the living room and bedroom walls.
Bravo for the area of tenderness and freedom you offer to your 12 cats. Fantastic
Read you again
Francois
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dylazuna In reply to Dragonia27 [2013-08-26 05:56:24 +0000 UTC]
There's a lot of myth surrounding bull dancing and the only thing that everyone can agree on is that it did take place.
What, why, where or who is another matter though. I like to think that it was an equal opportunity sport as it was portrayed in the book I read.
This is part of the plot description of the The King Must Die on wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King…
Bull dancers train for three months in Knossos Palace before they go and get their bull. Then the bull has to catch them; they are not sacrificed to him. The bull-dance began as a sacrifice to Poseidon, whom they believe lives beneath the Palace (of Knossos) and causes earthquakes when he is angry. Over the ages the bull-dance developed into an art form, and those who survive the dance teach their art to the newer ones. They go in teams in front of the bull and sometimes, with a good team, the bull tires before someone is killed. In older days noble Cretan youths did it themselves for honor, but those days are gone, and they bring in slaves now. They learn that teams of fourteen dance, but are not usually kept together.
The bull-dancers all live and eat together. The boys are allowed to roam the Palace at night, while the girls are kept securely in a separate dorm.
They practice using the Bull of Daedalus, named after its original designer. The bronze horns were supposedly his own handiwork. The bull-leapers are respected athletes, for they grasp the bull's horns and fly off them when his head rears and are caught by other dancers when they land. Each member of the team is critical to the life of everyone else. The Cretan bulls have been bred for the dance, and the intelligent and quick ones are used for sacrifice. The ones in the dance are slower, but still dangerous. But they cannot be harmed, for the god lives inside them.
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Odilicious [2013-07-30 16:53:05 +0000 UTC]
Awesome creation!
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RJDowling [2013-07-27 17:47:25 +0000 UTC]
Crete is one of my favourite retreats to chill out. If you ever get the chance you must visit Knossos and Phaestos. I think you will enjoy the frescos.
As for the speculation, the scene is repeated so often (in fresco, pottery, metalwork) that I'm certain it happened. It6's just too wonderful not to. (Now there's a scientific approach!)
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dylazuna In reply to RJDowling [2013-07-29 06:35:04 +0000 UTC]
If I ever go I will definitely visit them. It would be wonderful to see the frescoes for real rather than just images of them.
I'm sure it took part in some form or other, as like you say there are too many depictions. Also there is the modern day equivalent of Course Landaise in Spain.
I think the speculation now is more as to why they did it. How much of a religious significance did it have, were the participants willing volunteers or trained slaves similar to gladiators; and was it a precursor to sacrificing the acrobats and/or the bull ?
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lemonade8 [2013-07-27 03:04:11 +0000 UTC]
I love this, it absolutely resembles all of those frescoes with bull leaping. Knossos is amazing.
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dylazuna In reply to lemonade8 [2013-07-27 06:12:14 +0000 UTC]
That's good to know, thank you.
I studied images of the frescoes and went for the red/honey colour of the palace itself in the stonework.
Hopefully I will get to visit Crete one day and see for myself.
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torochief [2013-07-26 17:29:06 +0000 UTC]
... and one big bull full of big cojones!~ Ole!~
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