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eagle79 — When the Storms Pass

Published: 2006-04-21 04:31:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 757; Favourites: 16; Downloads: 31
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Description I really need to get a graduated ND filter for shots like this. To bring out the image, I had to selectively apply curves to the grassy areas to lighten them and to the sky to darken it. There's a little color noise in the grass, but I think overall the result is pretty good. What do you think?

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ5
Programmed Auto-Exposure, no flash
F/4.0
1/400 sec.
Curves (see above), slight saturation, and slight sharpen in PSP X.
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Comments: 29

ScribeN8 [2007-03-20 21:24:00 +0000 UTC]

this rocks my :boxorz:

lol
filters always help with photoshop syndrome.

nate

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eagle79 In reply to ScribeN8 [2007-03-21 01:02:42 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it! Thanks for the !

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Sliggo [2006-05-11 13:46:19 +0000 UTC]

Awesome shot

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eagle79 In reply to Sliggo [2006-05-11 15:32:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Sliggo In reply to eagle79 [2006-05-11 15:38:41 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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deamond2007 [2006-04-24 15:36:17 +0000 UTC]

Rain!!!! Pretty sunburst. It's finally supposed to rain here. Flash flooding is a looming possibility according to the news.... figures. flood or drought, no middle ground.

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eagle79 In reply to deamond2007 [2006-04-24 17:38:42 +0000 UTC]

You know I get the impression you don't like where you live lol!

Thanks for the comment!

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deamond2007 In reply to eagle79 [2006-04-24 23:04:13 +0000 UTC]

oh really it isnt so bad...i wouldnt live anywhere else there is just a lot of abnormalness aboutr this particular area..and with that i mean about an 8 county area...i wish i lived in a different part of the county sometimes where all the smelly winds didnt converge but one can get used to even the oil field smells after a while...at today's prices its gold their pumping out of the ground...black gold. i kinda like the flooding too...for most people, except for the idiots who keep building right on the flood plain close to the river/creek/lakes it really doesnt do much harm...i wish i could get some good high-water pictures...sometimes it can be kinda pretty

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wjptak [2006-04-22 20:30:04 +0000 UTC]

ND is a great tool, You really should buy it!!

As photomanipulation it's great!

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eagle79 In reply to wjptak [2006-04-22 22:50:59 +0000 UTC]

ND is definitely on my short list of accessories to get...

I'm not sure I'd call this a photomanip. Granted it's quite a bit more work than I usually prefer to do to an image, but most of the work is something I would imagine could be done in a darkroom... mask one area of the image and underexpose it, unmask and mask the previous area, overexpose it. The only color manipulation here is curves and slight saturation (something I do regularly). Really the only difference is that I applied the curves adjustment multiple times on different parts of the image.

Hmm... well, what do you think? DA has this note on photomanip:

"All images submitted to this section should be altered in such way that it is clear you have used techniques other than a filter and/or alteration in the colour of the original."

It doesn't really indicate whether the rule of thumb should be that the modification should be applied across the image as a whole or it can be applied selectively...

Actually, it would bring into question a lot of the modifications I sometimes do... what about cleaning up dust? removing facial blemishes?

I've always been torn on this topic. Usually I consider that if I end up painting something onto the image (not including dodge/burn, which I seldom use anyway), then that's taking it too far. But removing very small distracting elements, applying the usual color/brightness adjustments selectively, etc... I always considered these to be permissable within the 'Art Photography' category -- though not the 'Photojournalism' or perhaps 'Snapshots' categories...

What's your take on all of this?

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wjptak In reply to eagle79 [2006-04-23 06:51:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes, You're right. I think there is very thin border between image correction, such as photographers do in a darkroom, and photomanipulation.

I think colour corrections, such as levels, curves, removing dust (but, for example, removing part of image, like wires hanging across great sunset/sunrise is what? something what is created never existed in reality - photographer could move his camera to get a "clear" shot, You cannot remove parts of images in analog photography in darkroom) etc. are acceptable, even more - great photographers are masters of those techniques - I'm sure You know *Solkku or =robertmekis . I try to learn as much as I can to make my photos looking so nice, but it's hard to

Personally I'm against further changes as photomanipulation - that's why I use photo filters - NDs, grads, cir-pol etc. I'd love to make great photos in a "clear" way.

Best Regards!

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wjptak In reply to wjptak [2006-04-23 16:38:12 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I agree.

Best regards.

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eagle79 In reply to wjptak [2006-04-23 13:50:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your thoughts on all of this.

Very much I would agree with what you've said. I usually prefer to make photos as you say "in a clear way". There are times where I have made more elaborate changes (as you noted, removing powerlines ), but have always considered it a bit inacurate to call those photomanipsas they didn't really change the primary subject of the photograph or make extensive changes to the photo -- but even that's a tricky definition to make.

To me, it almost seems that there should be some sort of middle ground... or, perhpas, since most of the dA community seems to freely manipulate images, a way to mark a deviation as a 'pure' photograph -- that is, with no editing. Those photos should certainly be celebrated above the others, as they require so much more skill to make.

Anyhow, I really do appreciate your input on this.

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beatlefreak [2006-04-21 22:43:38 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful

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eagle79 In reply to beatlefreak [2006-04-22 05:15:44 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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beatlefreak In reply to eagle79 [2006-04-22 16:21:51 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome

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Bridgy [2006-04-21 20:38:50 +0000 UTC]

Stunning. /packs up to move to east coast. HAHAHA.

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eagle79 In reply to Bridgy [2006-04-21 20:44:50 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! And thank you very much for the as well!

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Daxserv [2006-04-21 12:44:22 +0000 UTC]

Great shot, right time right place

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eagle79 In reply to Daxserv [2006-04-21 13:29:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! And thanks so much for the !

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em12870 [2006-04-21 12:14:06 +0000 UTC]

I'd vote for a crop - The grass right under the tree trunk - and the clouds between the one bright spot and the rays. It would lose the one bright spot up high, but w/ that particular crop, my eyes wouldn't see it as a big loss (with this crop, it'd be a much larger loss in the pic).

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eagle79 In reply to em12870 [2006-04-21 12:22:50 +0000 UTC]

Hmm... I'll have to think on that one. I very well may already have a picture that frames it like that (I took a lot of shots of this).

Perhaps there'll be a "When the Storms Pass II"

Thanks for the !

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em12870 In reply to eagle79 [2006-04-21 13:52:10 +0000 UTC]

Way cool! a Sequel!

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eagle79 In reply to em12870 [2006-04-21 14:20:06 +0000 UTC]

I have enough for a trilogy of trilogies.. and perhaps a trilogy of those...

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em12870 In reply to eagle79 [2006-04-21 15:50:02 +0000 UTC]

LOL!

I like it!

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alexandernvm [2006-04-21 04:33:02 +0000 UTC]

i agree with what you said about the noise. i think you should have shown more of the grass, made the photo half and half

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eagle79 In reply to alexandernvm [2006-04-21 04:37:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the comment. I played with the noise reduction tool in PSP, which usually does a good job, but it just had a hell of a time with this image. I finally gave up. Maybe if I had noise ninja it could do something with it...

As for the grass, I could definitely see that. Not sure if I'd like it or not, but I would like to try it. Might search through some of the shots I took and see if there's one with more foreground...

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nenwen [2006-04-21 04:32:32 +0000 UTC]

loooovely

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eagle79 In reply to nenwen [2006-04-21 04:34:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much for the comment and the !

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