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Ego-Man25 In reply to ??? [2016-05-15 01:35:05 +0000 UTC]
Without context, it would be, yeah.
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the-ocean-sings In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-15 01:38:29 +0000 UTC]
But you had a hand in writing it so it's only to be expected.
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the-ocean-sings In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-15 05:13:25 +0000 UTC]
Can't really say, they're all equally out there.
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Yurosoku [2016-05-14 09:47:20 +0000 UTC]
...
Yup, way better...
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Ego-Man25 In reply to Yurosoku [2016-05-14 11:00:29 +0000 UTC]
In what regard?
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Yurosoku In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-14 14:32:14 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much everything over what was given to us in the game...
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Ego-Man25 In reply to Yurosoku [2016-05-14 15:47:23 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. The game was NOT made well.
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Yurosoku In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-14 16:21:01 +0000 UTC]
No it was not...dare I say, it was a made poorly
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Ego-Man25 In reply to Yurosoku [2016-05-14 16:53:10 +0000 UTC]
It WAS made poorly.
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Yurosoku In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-14 18:29:15 +0000 UTC]
Have you tried the two player part of it?
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Yurosoku In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-14 22:02:14 +0000 UTC]
Did you beat this game?
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SimirrorofShadows [2016-05-14 07:31:47 +0000 UTC]
Interesting read. That being said, there is no salvaging Sonic Boom.
Even if the ending was made better the whole thing is sour milk.
Esp. since they shot themselves in the foot to make Eggman the final boss, since they did that time travel bit where Sonic and Tails ruin Lyric's plans and leave him trapped until they unwittingly free him again. By justifying Lyric in the timeline, they essentially locked Eggman out of final bossdom and had a real big push for Lyric for some inane reason.
It's dumb especially because Eggman gets turned into a patsy for Lyric (like he's ended up being for multiple games with other villains) because of Lyric's "ancient origins." I mean Eggman could've easily circumvented his tech or something and made Lyric a minion through force by reverse-engineering Lyric's own robotics or something like that, but then again that would be too clever a subversion and then sonic boom wouldn't "appeal to the new audience enough."
And I blame the lack of Super sonic on Big Red Button's inability to make good music. Because quite frankly if they ain't usin' Crush 40 why even try to have a big SS finale? Oh and the fact that they were likely operating on Crash Bandicoot/Jak and Daxter logic while making the game.
...except they failed to make an engaging world with Sonic Boom. I mean Jak and Daxter was great, IMO, but it's clear they tried cutting and pasting their design logic here with a big open world. Unlike Jak and Daxter, however, Sonic Boom has nothing in it; No collectibles (at least none out in the open) and lazy design choices all around.
Best thing they could've done would be build a big open world that would accommodate high speed, add some stuff to it, and make some NPCs that don't look like boring, generic cartoon characters.
And Sticks sucks. They had more than enough characters from the mainline Sonic series, but instead opted to try and create their own "sonic franchise" and they make a Marine knockoff with an annoying nasally voice and a dull, already been done personality.
And quite frankly the show is as bad as the game. The characters in the show fit in to the most standard comedy character archetypes, so bleh.
For the writing you got here, it's clearly running on self-awareness, but I get the gist of what you think shoulda happened.
TBH the first end kinda works as a nice twist; the idea that "Lyric" simply died in the past and Robotnik tried to make it seem like he had survived into the future to throw off the team, maybe lead them into a trap.
The second end doesn't really work for me, personally. The idea that Shadow was also a scientist villain is kinda nonsensical, but considering the original ending, it most certainly is a better one, albeit a bit out of left field (but I blame that on the fact that Shadow literally showed up for one boss fight and never appeared for the rest of the bloody game. It's clear he was only there to lure in his fans).
The third end kinda was a way to bring in the chaos emeralds, and maybe the emeralds are a tired old set of macguffins, but there was never anything fundamentally wrong with the chaos emeralds. In fact, weren't you forced to gather macguffins to progress in Sonic Boom? Why didn't they just make those the chaos emeralds, and have their power be mostly unknown for the entirety of the game, like whatever info about them was lost to the past or something, and have Lyric hint that he knows at least vaguely that they have power?
I don't know why they rearranged everything, and it's especially damning since I don't think we're getting a "mainline" Sonic game for a while.
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Ego-Man25 In reply to SimirrorofShadows [2016-05-14 11:00:20 +0000 UTC]
Like I had written at the beginning of the video, we could have EASILY just made this into a critique on why Sonic Boom failed as a videogame, or as a satisfying experiences as a whole. When the cowriter/my close friend on here initially had an impulse to try to rewrite a story that would have been better than the game, I politely let her know that even I couldn't manage to do that, and that if we were going to do ANYTHING, it would be something served more as a harsh critique than anything, thus what you have just read.
All the points you have made, I very much agree with. That being said... you can see why I went Quentin Tarentino with the song choices you see here.
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SimirrorofShadows In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-06-01 22:06:16 +0000 UTC]
TBH I think best route for the game's story would've been
Oh hey eggman's at it again.
Let's deal with him.
Oh no who's this Lyric guy?
Oh no he's got his own army of robuts.
Oh it turns out eggman was controlling him and used him to distract us while he got the ultimate army of robuts working.
Chaos emeralds!
Super sanic!
Crush 40!
End of game.
Alas, twas not meant to be.
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Ego-Man25 In reply to SimirrorofShadows [2016-06-01 23:01:49 +0000 UTC]
As awful as it was, Sonic 06 AT LEAST had a good soundtrack going on for it.
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SimirrorofShadows In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-06-06 00:36:23 +0000 UTC]
Which is what makes Boom all the worse. It's not just bad, but soulless as well.
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SimirrorofShadows In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-06-06 15:04:52 +0000 UTC]
I think part of is is the fact that Sega outsourced (which was a mistake already) and secondly because Sega keeps trying to reinvent the wheel.
Even if sonic had some good games recently, Sega throws the tub out with the bath water every time; they won't keep a working formula, and instead keep trying to do something new with sonic. As a result games like Generations and Lost Worlds have their format abandoned for something else.
The worst part is it seems Sega has decided to invest in Boom with a kids show and multiple mediocre to poor games within a series that is bland and uninteresting.
Paper Mario might've had his head put on a pike, but at least Nintendo admitted that series was dead.
Sega just decides to delude themselves.
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MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 02:23:04 +0000 UTC]
Oh, my God... THESE WOULD ALL HAVE MADE SENSE!!! Especially the first two!!
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Ego-Man25 In reply to MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 03:18:15 +0000 UTC]
That's what Fang and I were saying!
Why WOULDN'T Robotnik be the final boss? Clearly, he has the creativity, charisma and threat level of one, if Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic Adventure 2 was anything to go by. And, oh yeah: Rise of Lyric just SHOEHORNED Shadow the Hedgehog in there, something that Shattered Crystal at least took the time to justify.
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MissAmaterasu18 In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-14 03:30:46 +0000 UTC]
The third ending is pretty interesting. Also, I kinda like the second ending more because... Well, you inserted Shadow in there for a reason, so why is he randomly there if he's not the CENTER of attention?
The first ending would have DEFINITELY thrown me off guard because... c'mon, you see him as a villain right from the beginning, and yet you pull a "hey, he's just a robot!" Twist.
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Ego-Man25 In reply to MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 03:43:47 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. Shadow could have been THE kingpin to that whole plot to have it make sense. But nooo... Rise of Lyric had to screw UP...
And yeah, the first ending would have been just like Mario and Luigi: Dream Team in that regard.
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MissAmaterasu18 In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-14 12:59:04 +0000 UTC]
I know, right?!
Right... never finished that game, but right.
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Ego-Man25 In reply to MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 15:49:00 +0000 UTC]
You haven't played Mario & Luigi: Dream Team? That game is loads of fun.
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MissAmaterasu18 In reply to Ego-Man25 [2016-05-14 17:16:57 +0000 UTC]
I think I have... isn't that where the babies are in, and the babies help?
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Ego-Man25 In reply to MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 17:25:56 +0000 UTC]
Nah. This is the one where Luigi sleeps, and Mario enters the dreams of.
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Ego-Man25 In reply to MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 18:20:58 +0000 UTC]
Anything else about this editorial/fanfic that resonated with you?
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Ego-Man25 In reply to MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 18:55:53 +0000 UTC]
It was fun for me and Fang to do this.
Did you read some of the other comments?
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Ego-Man25 In reply to MissAmaterasu18 [2016-05-14 21:27:13 +0000 UTC]
One of them called out the game as a whole... which I fully agree with.
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yellowpikmin88 [2016-05-13 23:48:04 +0000 UTC]
HAHAHAHA!! Love the conclusion!
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Ego-Man25 In reply to yellowpikmin88 [2016-05-14 00:33:07 +0000 UTC]
Why thank you.
Was there any other moment you liked?
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