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Published: 2018-05-06 15:09:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 1862; Favourites: 28; Downloads: 0
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The American ball needs to remember that the Confederate ball is a part of it's own history, despite how painful it was.
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Nobody is suggesting we forget. The fact is that by waving the Confederate flag and building monuments to those who fought for it, we are legitimizing the cause of slavery.Β
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Everyone is allowed to have their heroes but Southerners.Β
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Why are all their heroes slave owners?Β
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You mean like Light Horse Harry Lee, George Washington, John Jay, Patrick Henry, Francis Scott Key, John Marshal, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison?
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So, because men that like owned slaves, slavery can't possibly be bad?Β
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So, because men owned slaves, those men can't possibly be heroes?
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They didn't start a war for slavery. But using the Founding Fathers to defend slavery is cheap.Β
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Your moral outrage is like popcorn for my soul. Keep the tears up, buddy, it makes for a good laugh!
By your silence on the question about Blessed Pius IX, I assume you're admitting that by recognizing the Confederacy Pius IX was neither sinning nor furthering slavery. Which, in turn, means that a person could in good conscience support the CSA. Β
1. Every 4th grader knows about the Cornerstone speech, so Stephens' views are hardly a "gotcha" moment. Did you knw he's paraphrasing the 1833 Pennsylvania case Johnson v. Tompkins? Nah, didn't think so. It's good you're finding that history is less black-and-white than your Puritan mindset would normally allow.Β
2. Again, you're conflating secession and war. And you haven't even looked into the secession ordinances of Arkansas and Virginia, so you're being both disingenuous and hypocritical in your approach.Β
3. Well, as many predicted, this led to the expansion of Federal progressive power which has, in turn, led to the furtherance of homosexuality and abortion, which are far greater crimes than slavery. So, yeah. And a pointer: if you underline "fact" next time as well as bold it, that makes it extra true.
4. The Federal laws quoted did nothing more than maintain the status quo which was present since the time of the ratification of the federal Constitution.Β
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Every Christian should being morally outraged by slavery.Β
I wasn't silent you imbecile, I said yes to both questions. Pius XI was wrong.
1. That changes nothing. He expressly said that the entire point of the Confederacy was slavery. That he was quoting something else is irrelevant.
2. Because one only happened because of the other. And you haven't even looked in to the Declarations of Secession of Mississippi and South Carolina, so you're being both disingenuous and hypocritical in your approach.Β
3. Neither of those things are true, you stupid redneck.Β
4. No, they didn't. There was no law mandating citizens of Northern citizens aid in the arrest of escaped slaves. Nor was there a gag on discussing slavery in Congress. Those were both forced through by the South under threat of violence to restrict the right of Northern states. Popular sovereignty was used to allow pro-slavery border jumpers to swing the votes in incoming states.Β
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Haha. I already said to compare Mississippi's ordinance of secession to Virginia's. You're so heated you're not even reading the posts right.
Okay, Blessed Pius IX sinned by recognizing the CSA, which if your simpering tone is any measure, is a mortal matter.
And yet he's a Blessed.
Hmm.
Never said there was a law mandating that. Said it maintained the status quo - namely, the protection of slavery.
It's a hoot how you resort to bigoted slurs ("redneck"). Are you really that different from how you perceive the South to be then?
Seriously, man, relax a little before you blow a gasket or something.
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Haha. I already said to compare Mississippi's ordinance of secession to Virginia's. You're so heated you're not even reading the posts right.
And I said to read the Declarations of Causes wherein the Southern leadership expressly identifies secession with slavery. You're head is shoved so far up your ass you can't read properly.
Okay, Blessed Pius IX sinned by recognizing the CSA, which if your simpering tone is any measure, is a mortal matter.
And yet he's a Blessed.
Hmm.
He was wrong. End of story.
Never said there was a law mandating that. Said it maintained the status quo - namely, the protection of slavery.
But it was a violation of the rights of states which, for some reason, you don't seem to care about when it works in favor of the South.
It's a hoot how you resort to bigoted slurs ("redneck"). Are you really that different from how you perceive the South to be then?
Yes, because I'm not arguing for the enslavement of inbred chimps like you.
Seriously, man, relax a little before you blow a gasket or something.
How about you stop promoting racist lies?Β
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You've made my day, man.
Seldom have I had such a good laugh.
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You laugh at historical documents. How typical of a Lost Causer.
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There's a difference between the reasons for war and the reasons for secession, which you conflate. The reasons for secession were multi-faceted, as shown in the various States' secession ordinances (compare Mississippi's to Virginia's). The reason for war is obvious.
And if indirect benefits to the institution of slacery disqualifies someone from being a hero, then you must discount the Founders. The British were offering freedom to any slave who would serve the Crown, something which that generation thought repugnant. Further, slavery was protected both under the Articles and the Constitution from overreach by the general government.
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1) No, they weren't. The South seceded and attacked the Union over slavery. Anyone who says different is objectively wrong.
2) Owning a slave plantation is not "indirect" nor is fighting a war to ensure your right to.
3) That generation found Blacks doing anything but hard labor repugnant.
4) Declaring "all men are created equal" is not overreach.
5) There was no protection of slavery by the Constitution.
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1. You didn't actually address any of my points on the war/secession issue, so I'll assume you're not here for an actual discussion but to make yourself feel good by wallowing in fabricated moral superiority. Also, look into the Star of the West. And Ft Pickens.
2. Yes, that's pretty indirect to forward a cause (Southern Independence ) which would indirectly benefit slavery. In fact, an amendment was proposed prior to the war which would ensure the Federal government would not interfere with slavery, but this was rejected for Southern Independence.
3. So the Founders are not heroes? Okay, as long as you're consistent.
4. When it shakes the very form of government, resulting in the titanic centralisation of power we possess today, yes, yes it is. I think it was Charles Dickens who said the North's prosecution of the war was all about power, and that the idea it was all about manumission was "specious humbug"
5. Yeah, there was - because it fell under the powers not assigned to the general government and therefore was a State issue under the 10th Amendment. So it was protected under the Federal Constitution from Federal overreach.
Are you a Catholic? Did Bl. Pius IX sin or err when he (at least personally) recognised the Confederacy and urged Irishmen not to fight for the United States?
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Let me just pause to say, in the first, it is disgusting the lengths you are willing to go to justify slavery. This isn't some philosophical issue. The horrors those slaves endured were real. I don't give a fuck what the Constitution says, if it says people have the right to rape, murder and mutilate their fellow Man, to sell them like cattle, then what good is it? Have you no conscience? Have you no compassion? Have you ever paused to think of the things those people endured? How they felt? Do you think they gave a damn about states' rights? So don't lecture meΒ about "fabricated moral superiority."Β
1) Because your arguments are the same tired, revisionist bullshit. From the election of Abe Lincoln until the first shots were fired on Fort Sumter, every secessionist politicians expressly said that they were fighting for slavery.Β
"The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution, African slavery as it exists amongst us β the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution."
-Alexander H. Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America
teachingamericanhistory.org/liβ¦
I hope you have enough self awareness to be embarrassed.Β
2) It was not indirect. As noted above and in the countless historical documents you Lost Causers ignore, slavery was the primary motivator behind secession.
4)a I cannot overstate how much it appalls me that you consider slavery a lesser evil than a federal income tax.Β
4)b Neither I not any other historian claimed the Union went to war for slavery. The factΒ is that the Confederacy went to war for it.
5)a And yet the South had no problem using federal power to protect the interests of slavery, vis-a-vis the Fugitive Slave Law, popular sovereignty and the gag rule on slavery in Congress.Β
5)b Which is why the federal government passed the 13th Amendment which allowed them to do something about it.
Yes to both questions.Β
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Pain can be good.
But American Ball is too focused on the fast things in life!
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Very tragic. Because enduring pain can actually strengthen a person.
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Very true.Β
Ease makes decay - pressure makes diamondsΒ
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You ain't bad at this
If youre lookin for criticism though i'd suggest a little more wit, make the punchlines a real suckerpunch
Not saying this ones bad, but you could've gone a little further
Hell, the whole polandball stuff has its beauty in its conciseness though so i wont say too much. gw
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Yeah, I hear you.
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Thanks! They're really fun to do
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