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Sorry I didn't put in Tracy, if I would, I'd put him under Social Neutral.Related content
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Woah, woah, woah...
Paul is NOT chaotic evil. Hell, he's not evil at all! He's just like the rest of us competitive players, using logic and statistics to become the best. Why do so many people hate him, thinking he's a villain? I personally agree with Paul's ideals much more than I agree with Ash's.Β
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This comment goes out to LilyNadesico. You are, by far, one of the most immature, close-minded, and childish people I've had the displeasure of coming across in a while. The moment when your opinions are criticized, you flee the scene and block the person you were talking to. We were having a thought-provoking analytical discussion about our differing opinions on the Pokemon anime, but if you want to block me as if I were trolling or harassing you (which I was not), be my guest. But when you're ready to continue this conversation like an adult, you know where to find me.
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*sigh* Fine, if you insist...
I simply realized that there was no point in continuing this. It's clear that neither of us will budge in our opinions and we will never be able to understand each other.
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Fine, we'll just agree to disagree. I just didn't understand why you blocked me, that's all.
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Yes, he's evil for how he treated Chimchar. He *is* a villain, and I'm honestly appalled that you agree with his twisted ideals.
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Dude, he checks his Pokemon's stats before deciding whether to use them, releases the ones he doesn't want, takes advantage of a Pokemon's abilities (like having his Chimchar take hits to activate Blaze), fully evolves his Pokemon (unlike SOME people), and is a really powerful trainer. He's basically the anime representation of a competitive battler, and as someone who IS part of the competitive community, I can't help but agree with his ideals. Pokemon ARE made for battling, after all.
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Exactly. He only cares for his Pokemon as battlers, and cares nothing for their well being, their feelings or their problems.
By releasing Pokemon, you are saying that he abandons them, which is a shitty thing to do.
I saw very well to what extremes he went by taking advantage of his PokΓ©mon abilities.
Paul is a Gary Stu that gets too much love from the writers, that's why he almost never loses. And I don't care that he is a powerful trainer, he is a horrible person.
That's why I hate the competitive community. No, PokΓ©mon are made for creating bonds and better each other through friendship and caring.
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Pokemon are digital creatures in video games who have no feelings or problems. It is in their programming to battle, that's what they're created for.
If you run out of room in your PC and want to get more Pokemon, you have no choice to release at least one. Or subscribe to Pokemon Bank, wait for that to fill up, and THEN release some. It's not shitty, it's essentially deleting any unnecessary data that clogs up your PC.
That's how you win battles, dumbass. Why do you think abilities like Sturdy, Aftermath, Guts, Overgrow, Torrent, Blaze, and Swarm exist? So the Pokemon will gain a beneficial effect when they've taken too much damage, got hit with a status affect, or got knocked out. If you don't take advantage of a Pokemon's abilities like that, you WILL lose.
Do you even know who a Gary Stu is? If Paul was a Gary Stu, he would have no flaws whatsoever, never lose ANY of his battles, and everyone in the show would love him unconditionally. If anything, Ash is closer to a Gary Stu than Paul is. Not saying he is one, but he fits the definition of one moreso than Paul.
That's the anime talking. Pokemon are digital packets of data that have genetics that they're created with, effort values that increase when they participate in battles, evolutions that improve their base stats, natures that boost those stats, etc. Those aspects were added for a reason: to give Pokemon more layers of complexity rather than "power of friendship will triumph all." In short, it adds actual STRATEGY to the game. At least, more strategy than just "Oh, I'm gonna refuse to evolve my Pikachu so we can keep him as the mascot and show off the power of friendship and a cliche underdog story!"
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In the GAME, yes, that is true. In the ANIME, they are sentient beings that have feelings, wants and needs. And even in the game, the underlying theme is that your Pokemon are (story-wise) friends and companions, and that you are a bad person if you only care about how strong they are. I mean, why does the move Return exist, after all?
Again, that's the game. In the anime, Pokemon have feelings and react accordingly when they get thrown away like useless tools.
Only Paul goes out of his way to hurt his Pokemon in order to gain the advantage. So, he's a shitty person.
His flaws are never acknowledged by the narrative. He only lost against Brandon and Cynthia, two of the strongest trainers in the world. Nobody ever calls him out on his crap, and everyone talks about how great a trainer he is. He is a Gary Stu, and nothing you say will make meΒ change my mind.
Again, you apply game logic to the anime, where such logic has no place. Which can be a good thing, too.
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Which is exactly why the anime is a disgrace to its original source material, and I cannot consider it canon. It goes against everything the games stand for. I'm not saying friendship has no basis in Pokemon. It's great for happiness-based evolutions, affection in Pokemon Refresh, and yes, a stronger Return. It's a lot easier to increase a Pokemon's friendship than to decrease it, as in order to do that, you would have to go out of your way to make your Pokemon faint, feed it bitter medicine, etc.
Well, would a Pokemon be happier living in the wild, or be stored in the PC for all eternity? It's not like they're being tossed in the garbage, they're getting to go back to their homes.
So if I have my Pokemon use recoil attacks like Brave Bird, Flare Blitz, or Volt Tackle, does that make me a shitty person? What about if I use self-sacrificing moves like Explosion, Healing Wish, or Lunar Dance?
Have you even watched the show? Ash has whined about Paul's ideals for a good majority of the time, saying that what Paul is doing is "wrong," and that not caring about getting stronger and reaching your full potential is the "right" way.
To make it clearer to you, a Mary Sue/Gary Stu is a character who has no flaws personality-wise, is overpowered within the universe they appear in, is loved unconditionally by all the characters (except for the main villains), is bland and two-dimensional, doesn't grow throughout the story, and is generally an boring and cliched character. A good example of a Mary Sue/Gary Stu that appears in Pokemon is Tobias, the guy who beats Ash in the Sinnoh League with his team of Legendaries. The definition does not apply to Paul. But by all means, if you want to continue misusing the term without understanding what it actually means, go right ahead.
The anime has openly acknowledged the existence of levels, stats, natures, and the like before. So how can you say it has no place when it's not only prevalent in the games (aka, the things that the anime is BASED on) but your precious anime as well. So you're wrong. Logic does have a place, it's the incompetent writers DISMISSING said logic when it's most convenient that irks me. If you possibly think that's a good thing, you're either delusional, stubborn, an optimist who accepts everything that's put in front of them and ignoring its flaws, and/or 13 years old or younger.
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Nope, the anime is not a disgrace to the source material. It respects the underlying message of Pokemon, that friendship and creating bonds with Pokemon and people is the right way to go about, to grow into better people and to mature. You, on the other hand, only consider friendship as a way to have your Pokemon get stronger so they can win battles for you.
Except that Pokemon in the anime are NOT stored in a PC for all eternity. When the trainer does not take them along in his/her journey, they are usually kept at home where they can do whatever they want. At least, that's how it is for Ash, and his Pokemon are happy. And yeah, if I were one of Paul's Pokemon, either living in the wild or being stored in a PC sound like better choices to me.
If you purposefully make your Pokemon faint, yes. Again, yes, unless it's the absolute last resort. I try to never let my Pokemon faint, though I understand that it can never be avoided completely.
Yes, and what Paul is doing IS wrong. Healthy competition is the right way. It's the incompetent writing DISMISSING this fundamental message of the Pokemon franchise that's at fault.
- No flaws prsonality-wise: Paul HAS flaws, but they are glossed over by the narrative in favor of telling us what a "great" person he is, when he's nothing but a glorified bully.
- Overpowered within the universe: Again, he only lost to Brandon and Cynthia, two of the strongest trainers in the world. Everyone else, he easily steamrolls.
- Loved unconditionally by all the characters: No one repriminds him when he bails on Ash in their team battle, Barry fanboys over him like no tomorrow even though he has SEEN what dick moves he pulled, and even freaking Cynthia admires him and says he just has "a different but still valid training method", when the game version of Cynthia would despise him for his assholish character.
- Bland and two-dimensional: For almost the whole D&P season, I only saw him abuse his Pokemon and look down upon any trainer who battles in a different way.
- Doesn't grow throughout the story: Paul remains the same for all the season, excepting an hasty and badly-written "development" towards the end.
- Is generally a boring and cliched character: Check.
- Ergo, Paul is a Gary Stu.
That was only in the beginning, when the show was finding its footing. The mechanics of the games were done away with in Johto already.
"If you possibly think that's a good thing, you're either delusional, stubborn, an optimist who accepts everything that's put in front of them and ignoring its flaws, and/or 13 years old or younger."
I'll gladly take any of that over agreeing with Paul and his barbaric methods.
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he is simply a competitive rival.
And Ash's and Paul's ideals are actually exactly the same as stated in the tag battle tournament.
It is the way Paul tries to complete his ideals that makes him "evil"
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Haven't I seen you around on YouTube?
Anyway can you explain this to me? I never understood the whole "Alignment Chart" thing
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knowyourmeme.com/memes/alignmeβ¦
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Wait, who is rebel impure?
Burgundy or Georgia?
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I've heard that people hate Tracy. Why exactly?
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How? Tracy is into art not breeding and all.
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Brock was changed to Tracey because the staff was worried about his character stereotype was racist because of his eyes. But then they realized that no one cared about it and brought him back.
Wound that here.m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtnILw7Iβ¦
Also in that video he said Koffing and Weezing were gonna be named after New York and Los Angeles, but just as NY and LA.
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I knew that already.
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Ok. But wanted to tell this if you didn't know.
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I can so see why you made Bonnie Chaotic Moral.
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Could you define terms like "Social Good" or "Rebel Impure" and similar terms (I think I might be able to add them to my morality system in the game I'm designing)?
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Social= friendly
rebel= not friendly.
Impure= just annoying.
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Well, I understand the terms, but how do you define something like "Rebel Neutral" or "Chaotic Impure" I've been looking all over for some accurate descriptions.
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Have you ever played Dunguens and dragons?
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Yeah, but I'm more familiar with the 3x3 grid everyone uses (Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic vs. Good/Neutral/Evil) but I've since expanded to the same 5x5 grid you're using and I'm trying to find accurate definitions of things like Rebel Neutral or Chaotic Moral. Separately, these terms make sense but I'm not sure what they mean together.
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Weird how all the girls ash was shipped with are right next to them. Makes you think!
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I think it's kinda funny how the closer they are to Ash the more likely a ship they are with him (Serena is right next to Ash, Misty and Dawn are tied, and Iris is on the opposite side of the chart from him; I kinda think Ash sees Misty more as just a platonic friend or like a sister rather than any romantic attraction, but it's clear that Serena at least feels something for Ash).Β
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Atleast, yes, but the weird thing is. One of my watchers said people hate her, I don't get that. But oh well I guess
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How?! Just cuz it's not Misty?
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Acually, it's because she threw herself at Ash, and because some people find her to be there just to be in the contest things in the show???????????? Makes since to me? I Guess
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Lawful good: Pikmin (I agree with SwagMan)
Neutral good: Mystery DungeonΒ
Chaotic good: South Park
Lawful neutral: Steven Universe
True neutral: Pokemon's competitive scene
Chaotic neutral: Undertale
Lawful evil: Verlisify
Neutral evil: Creepypasta
Chaotic evil: All "anti" fandoms (fandoms specifically created to spread hate to other fandoms)
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What fsndoms?
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well the ones that would fit into the categories, I'm sure the LOK fandom would be lawful evil because of all the nostalgia tardsΒ
acting like they're higher than everyone who actually like the show
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Chaotic evil: MLP.
Lawful good: Pikmin.
True neutral: Mario.
Rebel evil: FNAF.
Neutral evil: Steven Universe.
Lawful impure: Pokemon.
Social evil: Sonic.
Rebel good: Kirby.
Rebel neutral: Zelda.
Add others if you wish.
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