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Published: 2009-01-24 13:27:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 2765; Favourites: 99; Downloads: 6
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Gouache washNo measuring
I've been made aware that i never deal with the context of my characters. I shall start.
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Thank you so much =]
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the best reaction i could ask for
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killer... this is super sweet, youve got such a killer style! I'd like to invite you to bluecanvas.com and post some of your work there. anyway... very inspiring work you have.. keep on keeping on…
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i love the looseness and the colors
this looks so amazing
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thank you ever so much =]
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haha, awesome reaction =] thank you
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hah. not really =]
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the first step is admitting.
so what artists do you look up, i mean to get the style you have you must have practiced off something to start off right?
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I guess my greatest influences style wise would be Francis Bacon, Hans Bellmer, Gustave Dore, Frank Auerbach, Michael Mazur etc. I would honestly be here for days typing all the artists who inspire me, i seem to spend most of my art career searching out artists! And those are just the big ones. The likes of Sam Green, Kenichi Hoshine, Sebastiaan Bremer, Marlene Dumas also play a part. Along with photography, sculpture and literature. I don't think i'd be making art without literature.
It's hard to be so interested in so many works and not lose your own style. I'm trying to find my again. Tough!
Who's work do you aspire to?
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im definitely looking up all those names.
dude your work is the stuff i aspire to. aha
no lie man your amazing.
im more of a photographer but i love drawing.
i always attempt realistic drawing but i FAIL all the time. >_>
so i stick to drawing semi realistic looking cartoons.
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You're gonna give me an ego the size of Scotland at this rate! =]
You shouldn't give up on drawing. I couldn't properly draw people until i was around 17 and that was through one lesson with a rather demented but helpful tutor at college. You never know when something might click!
Anyhow, you can see in your deviation, Question, that you can recognise subtlety of line and tonal variation. Not everybody can do that! Plus it's not all about making a photo perfect drawing, for the most part, if we're honest, representative portraiture died a pretty painful death but then we got Egon Schiele and Francis Bacon. That's pretty cool =]
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thats the thing though, i can get the eyes done pretty well but its when it comes to drawing the head around it and then the nose is when i start to start sucking.
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Do you measure when you draw? With your arm outstretched with your pencil?
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i draw faintly first with my pencil. and then i base my drawing off that.
hmm i bet if i studied your stuff enuff your awesumness just might rub off just a tad on me.
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Hah, thank you but there's much better people to study. It seems like a cliche to say but look at Leonardo da Vinci's drawings, especially his Grotesques. He's a genius for a reason. Try copying one, it's been a long tradition for artists to do that because it helps with technique and once you've got that down your style develops over time. I'm still waiting for that to happen however.
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leonardo do vinci? never heard of him. aha
yea i check his work out from time to time.
i suppose i will continue to practice and see what comes of it. :/
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I happened to view the pieces in this order - "I Am My Mother's Only One" then "The Muttering Retreats". I looked at them and thought, "Wow. There is a lot going on between these two pieces. The composition between them are astounding." Then I saw your comment:
I've been made aware that i never deal with the context of my characters. I shall start.
I believe that your art, with the titles, give a lot of context already. You have the image and you give it a brief story or meaning with the title (I do something similar). Gods, whoever thinks your work needs more context needs to actually look at your art and title of the piece as a whole again and again and again...or maybe I'm just going on about something for naught because you think you should put more context in your art. Then, if that is the case, I'm shutting up and saying, "Go for it. It's your art."
Also, I do not know if you meant the two pieces to go together, but they work so well.
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First of all. Thank you ever so much. I swear, i come back from uni feeling miserable and it's only my family and the lovely DAers like yourself who keep me from giving up entirely!
Second. The relation is entirely happenstance. A happy happenstance that i wasn't aware of until now. Thank you =]
It was my allocated tutor who brought the lack of context to my attention and i do agree but then again, i am not about to situate my characters in busy streets and happy homes. I think perhaps they just lack the grounding of their surroundings, the most i think i would do is perhaps make the background more dense with degrees of charcoal or ink, suggestions of hidden away corners of rooms. A face should say enough without needing back up, i think.
I don't actually name my work when i display it at university, perhaps i should so they will take the time to realise what is actually going on. I don't think they even look through my sketchbooks that explain it ridiculously so. Art education. Why do we torture ourselves!
Thanks again. Your opinion has helped me realise a few things =]
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Sometimes context can clutter. Just be cautious and don't lose your edge for the sake of pleasing viewers. Awesome piece by the way!
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I just spent a whole semester losing my edge due to overly opinionated tutors. Therefore, don't fear, i'm just pissed off enough to ignore all they say and do whatever the hell i wish.
Experimenting though! Perhaps a simple background various degrees of charcoal will suffice to ground the characters. We shall see.
Thanks for caring! =]
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See that idea I like. Charcoal should help you do a lot of sweet stuff with dramatic lighting without losing the character. And right on with being fed up. The man is only as powerful as you let him be. Upwards and onwards!
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by context you mean visual background or story as background?
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yes indeed. Even disintegrating heads have to exist somewhere, yes?
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so i guess you mean both ... but in fact the lack of context can be a context itself too, so f*** that allocated tutor ... whatever that is
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but even a background that is just more dense could work with the kind of pieces i'm producing yes? Just some charcoal and suggestive lines. I'll try and if the work doesn't appear on DA you can assume what happened!
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both can work ... as far as i know everything can work, art (fomr one point) is to make them work
so it's up to you, but don't force it on yourself
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I would like not to but if i remain repeating the same work as i do now, perhaps i will never push onto the next big thing. Technique wise? Probably master it. But the philosophically, i'd be an amateur. I don't like that. Not one bit!
Art school turns you into such a pretentious asshole. Guh.
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i guess ... maybe i'm lucky that i had no chance to get in one
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i'm learning to be a chemist
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Now that i didn't expect.
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This is excellent - like the style - like the emotion
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