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One of the arguments I see homophobes hide under is, "Being gay is unnatural!"
If that's true, than why are 95% of male giraffes bisexual? Why do male geese romance each other? Why do seagulls sometimes engage in lesbian matings?
See the things that they don't teach kids in school?
Cats sometimes make sexual advances towards others of the same gender. Bonobos are fully bisexual. And - this is sure to give you wolfaboos a start - alpha male wolves will sometimes attempt to mount weaker male wolves.
If you'd like to read more on the subject, see here and here .
Flame as you wish, I've got my fire retardant ready.
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I TOTALLY agree. But i would like to say that when animals run out of females to mate with, or can't get any to mate with, they do it with males. Because they have to keep their testosterone levels up.
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Seen it in my dogs. So why arenβt others actually excepting reality?
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And these animals end their homosexuality when they find a right partner to share their genetic material with. That's also a fact. Like others say, it's not unnatural, but still, the argument "animals do that, too" sounds pretty desperate.
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People say homosexuality is bad because its unnatural...........then they hop in their cars, go to McDonalds, and buy a cheeseburger, eating it while complaining about how homosexuality is unnatural on their phones. 
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Even if something IS unnatural, it doesn't make it bad. For example, life-saving surgery is unnatural.
This is why the whole 'unnatural' argument is never valid.
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Also, animals end up doing homo stuff when no female of the species is to be found. It doesn't mean it is natural. They have an instinct to mate (produce offspring to continue the species) and that instinct is there if there are females or not. Look at countries where they kill off baby girls (India, China, Japan, etc.), the number of homosexual men is huge simply because the ratio of men to women has been unnaturally altered.
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Without meaning to be rude, where the hell did you get it from that we are not animals? -_- this is the official nomenclature for the human species:
"Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Class: Mammalia Order: Primates Family: Hominidae Tribe: Hominini Genus: Homo Species: H. sapiens"
I will kindly draw your attention to the "Kingdom: Animalia" part. That means we are animals. We are not plants, we are animals! There is no way around it, sorry to break it to you :3 There is no way we are anything but animals.
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yeah i know people say we are i just dont believe it, and i am not saying we are plants i'm just saying humans were crated as humans, and yeah there is, and by the way i never said we were plants i'm saying we never evolvedΒ
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Just because we never evolved (if that's what you believe) does NOT mean we aren't animals. You still haven't answered the question: where the hell did you get the idea into your head that we aren't animals????
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The Bible, yes I'm a Christian, but even if you believe in evolution WE EVOLVED! so now we are smarter than animals and dont have the same behavior and not talking about homosexuality but animals kill because someone is in their teritory, so yeah there can be arguments to suppor homosexuality I'm just saying that it is kind of stupid saying ''because animals do it''
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I think a few of my brain cells died from reading this.
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Ah :v well then, sorry for sharing my opinion :v apparently anyone againt gay marrige doesn't have the right to talk
BUT WHO CARES! We all have the rights to share our opinions (but apparently only if it doesn't go against the popular thought ._.
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Who ever said that?
Did anyone hear anyone say that?
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yeah no one says that u.u but it's just the truth, for being against it, for oposing to do some things because maybe it goes againts what you believe or something, like marrying them, if someone refuses to do that then that person goes to jail, but hey! everyone can share their opinion and be respected even though their opinion is different u.u and yeah i admit before i didn't respet it that much...but I guess I learnes, I am still against it and that won't change but well tthey can do what they wantΒ
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Well to be quite frank a) I don't care what you are and b) I wasn't arguing with you on what you believe or whether you think homosexuality is unnatural or wrong or whatever. I was arguing with the fact that it is stupid of you to say that we aren't animals because we very clearly are. Just because you don't want to compare yourself to animals because a really old book tells you different does not change the fact that we are a part of the animal kingdom.
Nowhere in the bible ever states or even insinuates that we are not animals. Humans are smarter than most animals, yes, and we have more developed societies but whether you like it or not we ARE still animals. Just incredibly smart ones.
Don't have the same behaviour as animals? We eat, sleep and breed, don't we? You say we don't kill because another person comes into our territory but you clearly haven't thought that through. Remember the world wars? What about Afganistan and Iraq? or what's going on in Syria and Israel right now? That is exactly what the human race is doing. Just because we blow each other up with bombs and guns rather than fighting it out with claws or teeth or antlers or whatever, does not mean we do not display the behaviour. smh
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look i dont want to discuss and i think you don want to discuss too
i will just say yeah maybe i didn't thought too much about it but even though it's happening right now it's not ok
and you told me where i got that idea from and i got it because i believe in the bible and that's allΒ
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Whatever. My point is get your facts sorted before you try to get on your high horse at people, otherwise you just end up looking dumb.
And also, just because you "don't believe in it" does not give you the right to bully or belittle homosexual people in any way. Honestly, it's got nothing to do with you and it's not going to ruin your life or kill you if someone is attracted to someone else of the opposite sex.
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and i dont bully them and also i know it doesn't affect me Β
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And yet you are here, commenting on this stamp and being condescending by saying things like "so just because animals do it makes it okay?"
THAT itself, just the way you say it, is extremely aggressive and you are attacking people who are homosexual, when you could just click that really neat thing called the back button and KEEP YOUR VIEWS TO YOURSELF OR PRIVATELY TO SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH YOU.
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I'm sorry for that and yeah maybe you are right but there is also the fact that people can express themselves, but still I'm sorry for that
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There is a difference between expressing your opinion politely and being rude and aggressive though
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well yeah thats true and i am sorry for that :c
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It's alright, thank you for being so understanding c:
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^^ and thank you for forgiving meΒ
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Scientifically speaking, we are animals. We're part of the animal kingdom.Β
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Even if you believe in evolution, humans evolved so we are much more intelligent than animals! I dont think saying ''because animals do it'' is a good argument, because we are no longer animals, animals do the things they do for instinct but we have the hability to decide, animals do things because of their instinct that are wrong i dont think it is a good argument saying ''because animals do it''Β
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Totally agree with this. There's nothing wrong being homo.
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Well , because 1, we arnt animals so stop picking and choosing animal like characteristics , Β you know what else is exhbited in multipule species?
Eating our own feces and eating their young, I guess we should do that too then since animals do it and is therefor considered 'natrual'
Secondly, homosexuality in animals are a rarity.
Most animals have homosexual tendencies but never go as far enough as to be in a relationship.
Homosexuality in Geese and seagulls are irrelevant because theyre not even mammals, they're neognathas,Β humansΒ and birds have literally no relationΒ and liveΒ totallyΒ different ways.
Homosexuality in Bonobos are common, thats true, but its mainly sex and usually never spirals into a relationship, sex is less sacred to them than it is to humans, sex is more like a common greeting to them.
Oh, and the reason why some animals are homosexual is because thats the only way that they can reproduce.
Where did you get thisΒ information, tumblr?
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That's like comparing apples to oranges. I really hate the "animals do it too" argument for that reason, but yeah, I agree. It isn't unnatural and there's nothing wrong with it.Β
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We used to have two cats that we homosexuals. They we very happy together
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Because homosexuality is unnatural in biological terms, since we don't have dual sexual organs.
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From an atheist/evolution standpoint homosexuality makes no sense; how does it allow for the transfer of genetic material among higher animals?
I'm aware of parthenogenesis (among a thousand or so species known), but it involves the genetic material from a single parent.
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omg i totaly agrre my dog identifys as a female and is bi sexual. luv is luv i accepted him- haha i mean "her' 4 who she is <3
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Don't forget male dolphins either, they often mate with other males.
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It is . . . that is why
with most animal species it really isnt homosexuality it has some purpose . . . a male wolf dominating a lesser member of the pack has nothing to do with sexuality, and you will find that female wolves will also mount male wolves.
not that I really care, nature has long since stopped beign relevent to humanity . . .
saying it is "unnatural" is just plain stupid thing to say, it implies that we should flow with nature . . . but we dont
so we can be whatever the hell we want to be
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Clearly you do not know a thing. Look up about Penguins and homosexuality.
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The only reason people want to claim that it is "natural" or that people are "born that way" is to take advantage of the idea that "all men are created equal"
if they can prove that they were created that way, then everyone will accept them . . . but it isnt that simple! When you break it down homosexuality should be considered a choice, whether it is or not!
It is an arguement for acceptance vs. tolerance, a person who is convinced via the "they cant help it" arguement is usually only tolerant . . . and tolerance isnt good enough!
But if a person thinks the other person chose to be gay, and accepts that decision . . . they are accepting of that homosexual?
Plus arguing that it is natural, and that people are born that way . . . . it makes it sound like you believe that homosexuality would be unnacceptable if it was a choice???? And I would really like to know . . . what if it was a choice? why would that be a poor choice to make with your life? What is wrong with being gay?
Explain why homosexuality is bad if you chose to be gay????
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You do realize that if one can chose to be gay, they can chose to be heterosexual too! So don't give me your crap about being gay is a choice and it's not natural because animals do not do anything UNNATURAL, unlike human beings on the other hand.
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and what is wrong with chosing to be heterosexual?
why is that a bad thing? why the hell cant people be allowed to chose who they want to be with their life?
and by the way, you missed my original point . . . it is unnatural, but that doesnt work as an anti-gay arguement
you realize, I am on the pro-gay side of the arguement here right?
or are you just fucking retarded!
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If homosexuality was a choice, who the hell would make it?
Who sits up one day and says "Hm, I think I'll become something that will make people hate me, be disgusted of me, be discriminated against, and a big minority! Homosexuality sounds cool."
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people who want to be gay :I I dont know, but I dont see any reason why people should be disgusted by it or disciriminate against people for it... so maybe I see no good reason it shouldnt be a choice.
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What homosexuality? or prejudice?
Certainly prejudice is natural, but that does not make it a good thing... nor a thing we should ever embrace, it is a thing that as a species we should overcome. Homosexuality is of course... not natural, but that does not make it a bad thing in any way shape or form.
Whether or not something is natural, or unnatural, is not an argument for whether something is amoral or not.
MAybe you should realize that I dont have to accept homosexuals the exact same way you do, in order to be accepting of them. Note that I use the word "accepting" not "tolerating". I dont have to follow your beliefs exactly to think taht nothing is wrong with homosexuality.
you and every other piece of shit that tries to give me "the homosexuality is natural, and not a choice" speech, can go rot in a dumpster for all I care. I know what I believe, and that is that homosexuals are people who have made a choice in their life, and that choice is one that I cannot and should not ever judge in any way shape or form, because there is nothing wrong with it... and there never will be.
you on the other hand seem utterly convinced that homosexuality would be wrong if it was a choice.
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no no no, homosexuality.Β
Yeah, I made the choice to be bullied and teased for liking girls
Yeah, I made the choice to be given weird looks when I tell people I'm dating a girl
Yeah, I made the choice to be lesbian! You got me! I sure do love being teased! Ohhh boy! ^_^Β
./sarcasm
Even if homosexuality was a choice I still wouldn't be prejudice against them or homophobic. Love/Marriage is between two consenting adults. NOT Β a man and a woman.
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as if all choices as concious and in-the-moment *rolls eyes*
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Apparently animals can make choices now. 
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yes...yes they can... also most facts about "homosexuality in animals" are twisted and distorted to make gay people look better... which they shouldnt need to do.
What the fuck is your problem?" I am already accepting of homosexuals in every way shape and form, yet you seem determined to make me hate gay people....
are you fucking stupid? If I had to guess I would say you are a man-hater that became a lesbian to be part of a cause... but what do I know about homosexuality?
Look as far as I see it, each human being is a distinct individual... and whether or not homosexuality is genetic, developmental, the result of nurture, nature, infection, or just personal choice... is wholly irrelevent, as they are all likely true... I do not think there is any "one cause" to homosexuality, but I think in general it is developmental in the womb, but I still think that there is choice involved.
I am a strong believer in human beings personal freedom, and it would be immoral for me to believe that people cannot chose to be who they want to be. Now you want to be gay, okay... I get that... so you made a choice to act on those feeligns, thoughts, and emotions, instead of suppressing them.
good for you, you are better for it... but I urge you to think of yourself as something more than an automotan driven by your base instincts.
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