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Description What I really don't like in Slayers anime is, the downgrades of the power of Ra Tilt (and other magics that Zel uses). Isn't Ra Tilt at the same level of Dragon Slave in Shamanism Spell? Ra Tilt should be more powerful in anime! Doubled Ra Tilt with Amelia should be as powerful as Doubled Dragon Slave....that's what I thought....

Original fic: Castle of Ecstasy written by QP/diana 1996-1997

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EugeneCh In reply to ??? [2014-03-24 15:44:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah. That's because Zel and other supportive characters' ability underplayed in anime due to the rule of thumb 'Hero(Heroine) should be the most powerful and be spotlighted(<--a way to make a show be simple and easy to develop)'

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SleeplessWinter In reply to EugeneCh [2014-03-28 09:47:04 +0000 UTC]

It's a shame such a thing has to be.
It would work better if they didn't god mode Lina so much...

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EugeneCh In reply to SleeplessWinter [2014-04-03 13:50:23 +0000 UTC]

I agree (nod nod)

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Porkbun-comics [2013-11-25 06:33:50 +0000 UTC]

I love the Ra Tilt spell, but I agree, it's never as powerful as I thought it should be.

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EugeneCh In reply to Porkbun-comics [2013-11-25 14:31:57 +0000 UTC]

I want to ask why? why? to anime staff....=w=

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HersheyOtaku [2013-11-14 02:44:23 +0000 UTC]

Wow, Zelgadis didn't even bat an eye. He's just so cool and composed~

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EugeneCh In reply to HersheyOtaku [2013-11-14 08:21:38 +0000 UTC]

That's our Zelgadiss the white. X)

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Cat-Phoenix [2013-10-20 18:27:01 +0000 UTC]

Ra Tilt is Shamanism spell. Dragon Slave - Black Magic. I mean... if we come to Astral World and cast Ra Tilt then it will be a big barabum, just like if we cast Dragon Slave in Slayer's World.

Zel is awesome! It is going to be fun in case their spell ricochet towards Lina)

More Zel/Lina please! such a great couple!

Your fics are amazing!

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EugeneCh In reply to Cat-Phoenix [2013-10-21 02:30:16 +0000 UTC]

Such many staffs are involved in creation of Slayers world....That caused confusion in the interpretation of magic systems & its power degree, I guess....But still I think some magics should have been more powerful in the series X3

Heheh You know Z/L is my fav...XD No other coupling ever captivated me so intensely for such a long time Thank you :3

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Seirin7 [2013-10-20 12:38:40 +0000 UTC]

What a suspense *.* This duel is really something *.*

Ra Tilt should be much more powerful in anime and, what is more, I think there should be shown a difference between Amelia's and Zel's Ra Tilt. He is more powerful than her, but in fact she can cast his the best spell. To put it simply, I want more Zel in Slayers anime

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-10-21 02:23:43 +0000 UTC]

Yes I think Amelia's and Zel's Ra Tilt be different, too. And...at least doubled Ra Tilt should destroy a mid-class mazoku easily. Even Hellmaster felt it would be risky if he's attacked by doubled dragon slave. Why Doubled Ra-Tilt is.....(sigh)

We need more Zel in anime! But not like in Revolution/Evolution series....I was upset Zel had a very hard time against a mid-class mazoku which he killed in novel vol. 6....=w=;; 

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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-10-23 21:42:06 +0000 UTC]

My thoughts exactly But what can we do? Create our own universe where Zel is rightfully powerful That's our omnipotent weapon
I've been also upset by Zel in Revolution/Evolution. Kanzaka-sensei has created such a wonderful characters... Maybe one day they'll do something more with more Zel Eugene, you with your skills can work with anime animators, maybe you can do something like that

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-10-24 18:09:42 +0000 UTC]

That's right! The meaning and ultimate goal of fanworks  

Slayers characters are really something...so noticeable, remarkable, unforgettable and full-life characters. Probably the REV/Evo staff had too low energy to revive the Slayers....(sigh) Hope some staff becomes interested in me and contact!


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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-10-27 11:09:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeah! To revive Slayers you need a loads of energy. Those characters live almost on their own and to show it you need to have a lot of passion, so we have to arrange it so that they would contact you!

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-10-28 17:55:25 +0000 UTC]

Nod. It was such a mega-hit anime which pulled the whole anime toward the global world...Probably it must be a stress for them fell into a trap of self-doubt questioning fandom power. Heheh thank you!  

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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-10-31 11:45:02 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome I'm just telling the truth But I also think they could be stressed But I really would be amazing if old fans with love and passion could work with anime show *.* It feels like a lovely option to me

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-10-31 17:32:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah! There have been so many talented fans in global Slayers fandom with decades of the fan history. I've thought what if the screenwriter of Revo and Evo-R have read QP sama's fanfics. She wrote so many brilliant fics in JAPANESE so there would be no language barrier or something for him...If he'd read them, he would've dare tried to write Zel/Rezo relationship so shallow....(sigh) I thought Zel in Evo-R looked a bit out of character like an OC....

 

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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-11-06 22:16:29 +0000 UTC]

I'll do my best Some old fans didn't come back (I'm so glad you did ), but I believe if only they saw your wonderful art they would be back for sure Your work makes people remember why this anime was loved so much and can make one realise that this feeling is stil in one's heart

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-11-07 17:47:01 +0000 UTC]

Thank YOU!! I may keep the cycle of being left & coming back like before and now due to my offline life in future. But my slayers love will never be left from me The friendship with you, and your work will do the same role that you mentioned for me  

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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-11-10 10:50:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you It's so wonderful there are such people like you After those over 10 years love for Slayers I can't imagine myself forgetting this feeling with people like you around

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-11-11 17:48:39 +0000 UTC]

I've to say the same things to you X3 You're such sweet pal Love you!

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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-11-14 10:18:28 +0000 UTC]

Love you too It always feels so warm to talk (write ^^') to you

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-11-14 13:45:13 +0000 UTC]

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Gargu In reply to EugeneCh [2013-11-06 17:18:03 +0000 UTC]

4chan had a pretty good remedy of how to fix R/Evolution: archive.foolz.us/a/thread/6911…

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EugeneCh In reply to Gargu [2013-11-06 18:34:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh man that made me laugh so hard...thanks for sharing XD

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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-11-01 20:51:24 +0000 UTC]

I wish I knew Japanese and Korean... I would love to read QP sama's fanfics. I know her only from your fanmangas, but those storylines are genious. Relations between characters are so deep and everybody has his/her moment. Zel/Rezo relationship is such a brilliant topic and Evo-R treated it really poorly :/ It had such a potential... When I sometimes saw Zel in Evo-R I almost wanted to cry and ask, Zel what have the done to you? Sigh...

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-11-02 18:55:37 +0000 UTC]

I wish I knew Polish! Then I can appreciate your beautiful Z/L fics written in your mother tongue, and could talk about lots of Z/L and Slayers talk with Polish Slayers fans....(sigh) X333 QP sama did lots of fanarts, too...but fanfics were her strength. Yeah! so much potential! Actually one of my fav fic is QP sama's Zel/Rezo which was in her doujinshi (not on web...== I wonder if QP sama left the fandom due to disappointment at Revo-Evo series...since she'd been active just before the release of Revolution, and excited at the news of the release....And just after the release of the series....she's disappeared....What a loss! ==;;

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Seirin7 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-11-04 10:36:06 +0000 UTC]

I'm honoured My Polish fics aren't the best thing in the world, but still I like them much more than my English ones. After all you can play more with the language if that's your mother tongue... But the more you train, the better you become, maybe on day I'll be proud of my English fic It's a cruel thing when an amazing doujinshi isn't on web T.T. I would LOVE to read it T.T People really should speak one language, an esperanto or something... Maybe you are right... At first when I heard there are going to be two more series I felt sooo excited and I thought that maybe there'll be a second boom on Slayers like in 1997. But it's really possible that with airing the latest series some fans thought that old Slayers really isn't coming back... So maybe if you created a new wonderful Slayers show, QP sama would coma back

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EugeneCh In reply to Seirin7 [2013-11-04 14:10:04 +0000 UTC]

You'll be! Probably the Babel tower was too destructive to God's trust on humans...=w= Old fans didn't come back...(sigh) Only the tenacious old fans who didn't fall in love with other anime left in the fandom (like me...) Hope she comes back in some day (crossed finger)

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LilianneRozess [2013-10-20 11:59:23 +0000 UTC]

Wow the dragon looks amazing!
But it seems Zelgadiss wasn't impressed XD

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EugeneCh In reply to LilianneRozess [2013-10-21 02:16:21 +0000 UTC]

THank you! Ra Tilt can destroy the dragon called via Gu Ru Dougar...although the dragon is called 'a legendary being in Katat mountains'...

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ArchangelNathaniel [2013-10-19 11:42:01 +0000 UTC]

You know. Dragon Slave for slaying a dragon. It's about a catchy spell name. But seriously about the power level I totally agree with you. Anime totally underestimate Zelgadiss and his power as the sorcerer. Maybe anime creators have done it for Lina's sake to make her almighty and her team only a useful background. I don't know but that's how I feel about it. Also that's why I totally prefer manga above anime.

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EugeneCh In reply to ArchangelNathaniel [2013-10-21 02:14:52 +0000 UTC]

That's right....They became just backgrounds....How sad!! T^T 

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roxelaine In reply to ArchangelNathaniel [2013-10-19 19:29:57 +0000 UTC]

the strange thing ist, it´s compared as the "Spiritual" opposite of the Dragon Slave, but it´s just for irritating the enemy. Screentime, as you say. and THAT´s just.....stupid? (I like Lina, but the way the creator evolved her is just ....sad?)

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ArchangelNathaniel In reply to roxelaine [2013-10-20 16:19:19 +0000 UTC]

Sad indeed but mostly unfair!

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roxelaine In reply to ArchangelNathaniel [2013-10-27 11:34:31 +0000 UTC]

It would be unfair if ther wasn´t an understandable reason for the author to make her like that. I mean, it´s just the way main character had been made by the creators in the 90´s and early 2000´s... Just think of Son Goku and Vegeta. Vegeta is actually completly able to have the same power as goku, but in the course of the story he went from "a serious obstacle" to a "oh I hate it how Goku is better than me, I am such a weakling, *cries*" guy. Like: "oh, well, the second characters are tough guys, too, but there aren´t the main character who MUST BE surpreme at any cost.

lucklily, that kind of thinking change nowadays....at last, it´s what I hope for (but that doesn´t count fot the creator of slayers who are made by that thinking of that time....)

Besides, I don´t watch R-Evolution and Evolution-R because of the way they envolved Lina to be the absolute overpowered Magician. Gourry became completly useless without his Sword of Light and don´t mention Amelia and Zelu who are nothing more than bait for the enemy to let her cast her Dragon Slave or Giga Slaye or whatever. And, look, THERE is the next thing: right after Next she´d casted Giga Slave like Goku change into SSJ. Well, what happened with the "The world can be destroyed"-thing? ô_o°

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ArchangelNathaniel In reply to roxelaine [2013-10-27 20:28:09 +0000 UTC]

You call it understandable reason but for me it's not. I agree with you about what respective authors made with Slayers and Dragon Ball but still for me it's not only bad but stupid. Just lame. Creating only one almighty character is too childish. That's not how the world goes. Stories where we have only one superhero, person who can do almost anything and the rest of the world is useless, a background, sidekicks and so on, are simply boooring! But still it's only my opinion. I'm very surprised that my comment made you to write such a comprehensive response but also it's real nice to exchange opinions.

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roxelaine In reply to ArchangelNathaniel [2013-10-31 01:05:13 +0000 UTC]

I am always here to exchange opinions about stories of all kind- counts for the one I like the most. I might sound like a granny when I say "in my time we´ve done this a lot"- but it´s not done these times anymore (sadly). There are essays witten about the meanings of symbols used in NGE. And we discussed a lot about these and that in Dragonball, Slayers and NGE and stuff. but that time seems to be over, sadly.

I have a very hard time to express my thoughts since English isn´t my native language. I am German, originally. so please have mercy with me :3
to your response: I didn´t say it wasn´t stupid, I said it was the way stories went that time. Most of the creator stopped focusing too much on a main character and took care for a good balance, others are too timid to change from an old, but "used-to-work"-system. And that´s an iconic, overpowered and almighty character.

And here is the point why Doujinshi and Fanfiction works better than the originial: because fans give a shit on an allmighty character but love a good story. Besides, that´s why you and me are here, right?

Also, I have to take up the cudgels for the creator since it´s really hard to tell a fantasy story with a strong minded and powerful character in a balancing way. As me, I am struggle with that "almighty problem" ever since I started mine. I am trying to give it a better structure, but I end up with thinking how disgusting I am putting the handful of people she loves and trusts in a huge danger and even try to destroy her inner self. aaaand I end up to make her "recognizing". and afterwards, I am thinking: well, you have a great idea, but what the fuck are you doing?!

If you LOVE a story to much and/or having a too big expectition on it, you might end up with the sue problem.

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EugeneCh In reply to ArchangelNathaniel [2013-10-21 02:13:01 +0000 UTC]

I agree!! ;w;

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MARYXULA [2013-10-19 10:07:44 +0000 UTC]

And in my humble opinion, you´re right

Greetings and amazing effects ^^

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EugeneCh In reply to MARYXULA [2013-10-21 02:12:31 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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Zelswift [2013-10-19 04:45:49 +0000 UTC]

i would say her dragon is impressive except i've seen how they actually turn out. way to destroy a town Naga. as for the Ra Tilt... OF COURSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COOLER!!! in the words on my daughters favorite pony "It needs to be 20% cooler"

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EugeneCh In reply to Zelswift [2013-10-21 02:12:16 +0000 UTC]

Yes!! Yes!! It needs to be 20% cooler! I love your daughter's expression!

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floraiji30 [2013-10-19 02:04:40 +0000 UTC]

Awesome dragon!!!!

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EugeneCh In reply to floraiji30 [2013-10-21 02:11:34 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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floraiji30 In reply to EugeneCh [2013-10-21 09:01:51 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome

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lei-magnus [2013-10-19 01:44:18 +0000 UTC]

I agree! Ra Tilt is just screen time for Ame and Zel in the anime... It should be even more powerful considering how huge Lina's dragon slave became.

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EugeneCh In reply to lei-magnus [2013-10-21 02:11:22 +0000 UTC]

Sob Sob....Why the staff downplayed Ra Tilt and made Ame and Zel as just sidekick weaklings in the later series??;; TWT;;;


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RollZero [2013-10-19 01:34:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I feel the same about the Ra Tilt, it is heavily downplayed in the anime

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EugeneCh In reply to RollZero [2013-10-21 02:09:55 +0000 UTC]

TwT I really hoped Zel's a bit more powerful in anime....at least as powerful as he was in the novel TwT


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