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G1990 [2011-07-30 20:26:09 +0000 UTC]
This part was so exiting, And this represents it just right. Awesome!
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Lucca-Majere [2011-06-12 03:10:53 +0000 UTC]
This is really cool.
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Zapheil [2011-06-11 03:53:56 +0000 UTC]
I think Vriska might really be dead, even though she's God Tier. Because this was a just death, wasn't it?
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FamoKrishina In reply to Zapheil [2011-06-11 06:26:18 +0000 UTC]
I won't deny it's a possibility. In fact, I could easily see it as a just death, assuming that killing Vriska really was the only way to stop her from going to fight Jack. Thing is, though, that the given definition of a "just" death is so vague that Hussie could easily claim it was just or unjust and sufficiently back up his viewpoint. So I don't think there's much use arguing about it. Hussie will do what Hussie wants. In the end, I think it simply depends on whether or not Vriska's character arc is finished, which I don't feel like it is. That's why I think she'll probably be back some way or another.
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Zapheil In reply to FamoKrishina [2011-06-11 06:29:25 +0000 UTC]
Personally, I don't think that any of the characters are really "dead." I mean, we know that they're in the dream bubbles, right? But the dream bubbles are a physical place -- Aradia physically went to one after she ascended to God Tier!
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Regreme In reply to Zapheil [2011-06-11 04:41:47 +0000 UTC]
A 'just' death isn't what determines it. It's a 'heroic' or 'notorious' death that counts.
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Zapheil In reply to Regreme [2011-06-11 04:55:05 +0000 UTC]
Huh? But Doc Scratch said that they could be killed if it was a just death -- if the hero turned corrupt and was killed.
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Regreme In reply to Zapheil [2011-06-11 04:58:55 +0000 UTC]
That's not what he said. He said they could be killed if the death was via heroic or notorious actions.
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Zapheil In reply to Regreme [2011-06-11 05:04:19 +0000 UTC]
TT: A god tier will live forever, with no caveats?
No.
One will live forever, unless killed.
The death must be either heroic or just.
TT: How are those terms defined?
Broadly, mysteriously, and according to the case of the individual.
One may be killed by opposing a corrupt adversary and die for a just cause, as through martyrdom, for instance. This would be heroic.
Or one may be subject to corruption, and slain by a hero. This would be just.
It's right here, dude: [link]
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Regreme In reply to Zapheil [2011-06-11 05:19:43 +0000 UTC]
Oh. Guess I forgot that small part.
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cronomatt In reply to Regreme [2011-06-11 05:24:34 +0000 UTC]
It only justified her being stopped, it didn't justify her death. Besides, for example, Martrydom is not exactly just, but it is very heroic, so I think that's the kind of 'just' Doc Scratch means. Pure heroism as the polar opposite of pure corruption.
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Regreme In reply to cronomatt [2011-06-11 05:27:44 +0000 UTC]
It's confusin' to debate that, eh? XD
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Zapheil In reply to Regreme [2011-06-11 05:23:01 +0000 UTC]
Well, it was kind of an important plot point...
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Regreme In reply to Zapheil [2011-06-11 05:28:28 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. But I was referring to something he said later, and guess he just added details instead of reiterated them like first assumed(It had been a while since I read the update where he talked to Rose).
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Zapheil In reply to Regreme [2011-06-11 05:32:40 +0000 UTC]
What page was that on?
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Regreme In reply to Zapheil [2011-06-11 05:35:25 +0000 UTC]
One of the more recent ones, when he was mentioning about how John didn't die from Jack's stabbing him.
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Zapheil In reply to Regreme [2011-06-11 05:43:07 +0000 UTC]
Ah, ok. He still talks a "just" death though, but I guess it's not as noticeable if you read it without remembering that earlier conversation.
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Regreme In reply to Zapheil [2011-06-11 12:59:17 +0000 UTC]
I do remember the conversation. Just not the exact details. As I said, been a while since that update.
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lolDalk [2011-06-11 03:53:12 +0000 UTC]
"the updates in which Andrew Hussie trolled us all"
All of the updates
All of them
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