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Description ok, so here's the truth. i went on my little hiatus cuz i wanted to really work with my anatomy. not just with wolves, but with everything. i know i still have a lot of work but its helping me a lot. i even found this pretty good online book called "the spirit of the wild dog" that talks about the whole canidae family and all of these unique facts that i otherwise wouldn't have known without it. since then, i have read quite a couple of articles, fact files, .pdf files on different kinds of canines, hoping to finally move on to brighter things and different animals.

here's the book if you want to check it out: [link] gR1&dq=spirit+of+the+wild+dog

(google's online books feature is AWESOMEEEEE!)

the truth about wolf tutorials... is that no matter how good the art is, how anatomically correct, it is always wrong. always. unless that person happens to makes a tutorial referring to every 35 or so wolf subspecies there are, then there is nothing you can do. that doesn't even include the red wolf (canis rufus) who is only a little sister to the big bad gray wolf (canis lupus).

the only correct way to tell someone how to do something, is knowledge. reference, books, c'mon you're sitting on the dang computer yet you guys keep drawing the same ninja wolves in combat during some damn war. blah.

people will often forget that there are actually two species of wolves. gray wolf and its pretty cute, coyote-looking cousin, the red wolf. not to forget that gray wolves have practically pwned every continent (....except antarctica....), they do vary a lot between their subspecies. so yes, wolves can have big ears, wolves can have strange snouts, it all depends on what region you want your wolf to be located and a little research.

you also can't forget that some wolves are bigger, bulkier, or otherwise slimmer then each other. or fat! i'm not sure, just use your brain.

edit oh yeah, forgot. still on hiatus! brb

said a couple of very interesting points i left out, please check out this comment:
I had to read what you wrote several times to realize what your point was and that it wasn't that wolf tutorials all suck, but that photos are more accurate as well as drawing from life.

In that aspect, yes agree with your statement, though I really recommend that you change your title not to mislead others into feeling that you think all wolf tutorials are WRONG and BAD unless you feel that way.

Also I have to add that even if a tutorial drew subspecies it could still be anatomically incorrect if it just focused on details rather than the overall.

Why the good animal anatomy books help is because they teach you construction. They teach you how to build to a reasonably anatomically correct animal and also how to draw from life better.

In this view point they are not wrong and show the underlying construction and movement, as it will help viewers draw better.

That is the point of animal tutorials out there, at least the ones that aren't trying to prove to the world that "I draw awesome and this is how".

posted a couple of really good references/"tuts" that i think could help a lot.
[link] [link]

thanks a lot guys [8
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Comments: 16

goldenEden [2009-07-17 17:33:33 +0000 UTC]

Agreed most tutorials only covers the basic on how That person draws wolf, which could be anantomily incorrect, but atleast you can get a just on the basic idea.

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ShiaShnaky [2009-07-17 15:58:00 +0000 UTC]

agreed, that's why i just make up my own species.. kinda based on a certain animal

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Silver-Sundog [2009-07-17 15:35:29 +0000 UTC]

Well done! Good points.

Also....

NOOO YOU CAN'T DIE THE WAR IS OVER!! XD

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PantheraCorax [2009-07-17 15:23:14 +0000 UTC]

ah, some wonderful points here 8D
I've actually gotten some more photo refs online with the different subspecies because I found a wolf height chart on =tanathe 's page. ^^ Introduced me to a lot of different anatomy and scales too 8D

Great job showing the most different body types in your drawing too ^^ Tis very helpful >w<

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tallix [2009-07-17 10:52:10 +0000 UTC]

phew. Im halfway through making a wolf tutrotial and happily, ive included diffrent body shapes fur types ear shapes and so on and so forth.
I was like ho shi- im gonna look at this and realise I've done everything wrong i see what you mean though most wolf tuts are to one specific looking kind of wolf.
I love how you drew the red wolf. It looks all sporty and such

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mirta08 [2009-07-17 09:40:26 +0000 UTC]

That's a very good point

that online book you mentioned, could you give me a link?
It sounds very helpful and that's just what I need, since I'll start re-designing my old wolf characters soon..

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fatakita In reply to mirta08 [2009-07-17 10:07:19 +0000 UTC]

[link] gR1&dq=spirit+of+the+wild+dog

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mirta08 In reply to fatakita [2009-07-17 14:32:30 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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metakatsztro [2009-07-17 08:40:38 +0000 UTC]

I love you for doing this.

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whisperpntr [2009-07-17 08:05:10 +0000 UTC]

I had to read what you wrote several times to realize what your point was and that it wasn't that wolf tutorials all suck, but that photos are more accurate as well as drawing from life.

In that aspect, yes agree with your statement, though I really recommend that you change your title not to mislead others into feeling that you think all wolf tutorials are WRONG and BAD unless you feel that way.

Also I have to add that even if a tutorial drew subspecies it could still be anatomically incorrect if it just focused on details rather than the overall.

Why the good animal anatomy books help is because they teach you construction. They teach you how to build to a reasonably anatomically correct animal and also how to draw from life better.

In this view point they are not wrong and show the underlying construction and movement, as it will help viewers draw better.

That is the point of animal tutorials out there, at least the ones that aren't trying to prove to the world that "I draw awesome and this is how".

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fatakita In reply to whisperpntr [2009-07-17 19:44:41 +0000 UTC]

ok, just the fyi haha i changed the title and added your comment in the description bar [8 (with credit of course). my computer was acting up last night otherwise i'd have it done sooner. thanks for the input!

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fatakita In reply to whisperpntr [2009-07-17 08:57:11 +0000 UTC]

i understand a lot of what you said, and i probably would of included it if i wasn't so afraid of length. i just made the title as a more of an eye catching thing rather than how i feel. you're right about me changing it.

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DiamondEden [2009-07-17 07:10:07 +0000 UTC]

Your arabian wolf... TIS A DINGO

But yes, I agree with you fully. And I really love your anatomy on the red wolf. I love the hind legs and paws; they seem to be positioned well, and the toes seem to slant at a nice angle instead of straight down like on your other paws (which is strange because toes don't go straight down! They stick out a little on the bottom where the very tip of the toe bone goes down, then back up into the claw). And you forgot to mention photo refs! Tutorials can be fail (although I would like a construction line tutorial from an experienced canid artist, like 's tut.), experience is the best way to improve. You can't learn EXACTLY what a good artist knows unless you get inside their head.

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fatakita In reply to DiamondEden [2009-07-17 07:18:58 +0000 UTC]

you cna't learn exactly what a good artist knows unless you work to become one yourself, is what i think.

i agree with some of your stuff and yeah idk maybe it looks like a dingo, both were reffed but quickly i just was here to make a statement. thanks for the comment~

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DaGrblz [2009-07-17 05:55:52 +0000 UTC]

You make a point *sigh* I'm having a crisis of where my story will be placed. With war dogs and wolves together? I wanted it to be in US or somewhere in North America, but let's be realistic. Cause that's not. XDDD I'm just hoping I won't have to change the whole story just for the setting. XD

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fatakita In reply to DaGrblz [2009-07-17 06:33:54 +0000 UTC]

here, maybe i can help you...

ever heard of pariah dogs? maybe make pariah dogs vs domestic dogs, or pariah dogs vs wolves.

you could even add some jackals in the comic. the jungle landscape could even be pretty interesting to do. here's an example of a beautiful indian wolf: [link]

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