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Description For the first, I want to thank everybody who loves my OC Stian and how has drawn him for me!!! I also realise that he is a very, very  difficult character to draw. His very feline body build, all the small details and fur extensions, plus my super-critical look make it quite a challenge to draw him correctly (so that I’m satisfied…) . So therefore, I thought to make a kind of tutorial summing up the most important things to remember when drawing him. I hope that that makes life much easier for those who wish to draw him – You’re very welcome to try – don’t be scared of making a mistake! I LOVE Stian-fanart- no matter what!! - and it’s a good exercise in drawing felines

For those who don’t know it yet; Stian is a siderian: my fantasy big cats species (nearly as tall as a horse!) that roughly look like a tiger-oriental cat hybrid. Stian is huge and robust compared to the species’ average and has exceptionally big paws. On the other hand, he’s pretty lean and narrow, especially his hindquarters.
(Btw- I'm going to work on a general canine/feline anatomy tutorial - and it may become HUGE and scientific).

**********This is the information I used to send to people I commission or want to do an art trade please don’t be upset if I say no…I’m always suffering from lack of time with ************

Stygian Stígandr Sætansen – or in short: Stian
Freely translated, his full name means Satan’s Infernal Wanderer.

**Here are the two reference sheets I made of Stian


**And this sketch dump shows exactly how Stian is, from different angles and in different poses:


** Here are two animations of him, that give an impression of how he moves:


** Here is a folder with all the drawings of Stian
blackmystica.deviantart.com/ga…

** This general siderian tutorial can be useful as well, to make him look correct and feline – and compare him relative to the species’ average.


Here is a written summary of the tutorial here (if you study the tutorial, you don't have to read this) and the most important things to remember when drawing him:

1)His typical angular eye-shape and poker face.
- It is shown very clear here: blackmystica.deviantart.com/ar…
- He nearly always has an emotionless poker face/ death glare. He hardly ever shows any expression on his face.

2) The very tiger like body shape with the extremely narrow hind-quarters.
-  The narrowness of a tiger’s back and hindquarters is even more exaggerated in Stian.
- It looks like as if he has no pelvis at all; as if his butt and backbone are fused together.
- He is generally lean, narrow and bony but still has a robust and powerful body build as if his skeleton is too large for the rest of his body.
Again; the recent sketch-dump is again most accurate: blackmystica.deviantart.com/ar…

3) He has HUGE paws, narrow but strong front quarters and HUGE bony shoulder blades

4) His facial anatomy resembles that of an Oriental-cat but with the pantherine heaviness
- Huge nearly horizontally placed air-plane like ears – with a very clear kink in the middle.
- His face is triangular and reminds you a bit of an inverted pentagram in combination with the fur
- The eyes are placed rather high

5) His neck fur resembles human-hair
- On the upper side of his neck he has long, very sleek mane like human hair (not fluffy!).
- The hair is slightly layered, shorter at the back of his head and longer near the shoulders.
- the fur on the throat is fluffy and points to the sides with a kind of separation in the middle
- generally all the fur details demand attention...


Story and personality
You can read it in the character sheet, but I will give you a (most recent) summary. First of all - this drawing and especially the text are kind of ‘Stian in a nutshell’
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*Personality:
He is a calm gentleman, vain with an enormous personal ego (but not arrogant), quiet, tidy and clean, dominant, indifferent, appears emotionless (has always a poker-face), not very social, hates weakness and refuses any help even if he would be dying. He has a reduced sense of empathy but deeply respects females, loves birds and nature. He can be competitive among males. Has a deeply rooted hate and fear for humans; this haunts him during his entire life. Is generally non-responsive to any kind of social stimulus but once one seriously threatens his ego or his wife and kittens, he reacts like thunder from clear sky, shows no mercy and goes for the kill with some strong tendencies towards sadism. He is generally very vengeful.

The Myer Briggs personality test for Stian: INTJ – A (the same as me…, not because I can’t ‘roleplay’ but because Stian and me are similar in many aspects …only in a very few things we are opposites).
I: Extraverted: 42% -  Introverted 58%
N: Intuitive 61%  -  Observant: 39%  (S-sensing)
T: Thinking: 100% - Feeling: 0%
J: Judging: 97% - Prospecting: 3%
Identity:
Assertive: 100% - Turbulent: 0%

*General appearance
Majestic, tall, powerful, intimidating, cold

*Story:
Stian has grown up in the forests of Norway, as member of a rather notorious family. His crazy grandfather (Matthias) was just feeding the hate between humans and siderians by doing stupid things. As a kitten, Stian got caught and abused by humans; an experience that has carved very deep scars in his mind. His father (Morten) saved him and this experience has changed him once and for all. During his adolescence, he learned a lot more about human behaviour and their respectless treatment of nature and other animals (especially in Scandinavia and Europe- in my story). The hate grew worse and when he became a young adult, he thought that it was time for action (after first having murdered his same-age, bullying neighbouring siderian). Blinded by hate, he started attacking and burning small villages and began to travel all over the world to collect (biased) information about humans that support his ideas of humans being a violent pest. Meanwhile he caused death and destruction in many human-settlements, but also got into serious trouble on the way. He got for example shot in the back after a betrayal trick by other siderians, but survived. During the 17 years of research and fighting people, he turned into a psychopathic, emotionless mass murderer. He got completely detached from his family and the siderian society in general. His family got very worried and went after him but hardly dared to approach him. However, he finally reunited with his elder brother (Goran) and cousin (Yava). In the later years of his life he gained some support from other siderians who have had bad experience with humans and desperately tried to get rid of humanity. However, most siderians didn’t support the violence to people and the spreading of hate and Stian met a lot of resistance. Despite this, he continued fighting his biggest fear in a more organized, larger-scaled way. He simply cannot live on a planet with humans and this drove him to continue fighting a hopeless mission.


Some photo's to show the impression, but don't rely too much to them
Here are some references of tigers and Oriental cats, but I STRONGLY recommend to stick mainly to the character sheets and my own sketches/ art of Stian if you wish to draw him. Too often, I have seen that people stick to the photo references only and missing important details. They then then interpret and Stian differently than how I see him and draw him simply wrong. The way I draw him is not a matter of style- it is how I really see him and how he IS. 

But maybe the references can help to give an impression of what I mean.
*Some tiger photos that give an impression of Stian’s general body-shape -  but keep in mind: Stian is narrower and much leaner and more bony – his paws are also much bigger.
rainman65.deviantart.com/art/T…
roxmad.deviantart.com/art/Back…
roxmad.deviantart.com/art/Alon…
rainman65.deviantart.com/art/w…
aussiegal7.deviantart.com/art/…

*Stian’s shoulders look roughly like this – narrow and body with huge, flat, triangular shoulder blades.
rainman65.deviantart.com/art/T…
rainman65.deviantart.com/art/A…

*Some Oriental cats that give an indication of the facial anatomy and the his eye-shape. But again – remember that Stian’s eyes and face are not exactly the same as those of an oriental cat. His face is much heavier, since he is also a much bigger cat
cdn5.siamese-cat-breeder.co.uk…
www.siameseplanet.co.uk/images…
cdn5.siamese-cat-breeder.co.uk…
www.siamese-cat-breeder.co.uk/…


Character, species and art by me. Please don't copy and/or use it without my permission

 

 

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Comments: 40

Toilet505 [2016-04-02 02:41:13 +0000 UTC]

Super detailed. xD Scary how artists need to remember everything. Even the teeth.

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Toilet505 [2016-05-02 14:48:08 +0000 UTC]

It's just that Stian is so invasive that I kinda know everything about him. More then I know of anyone else.

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Simjim91 [2016-02-02 02:58:46 +0000 UTC]

Stian is super awesome as a character design, i must admit : D

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Simjim91 [2016-02-07 11:39:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!! Yeah he just appeared like that...from the moment I saw him for the first time, he has completely invaded my story, changed the species concept into tiger-like and is generally always very present in my head.

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Mudstar-Sibera [2016-01-25 03:24:48 +0000 UTC]

Ah this will make my life easier in the future when drawing him! You pointed out all the most important stuff and his personal details. Tis is just what his loving fans need, thank you so much! I will try my best to abide by these guidelines in future drawings! 

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Mudstar-Sibera [2016-01-31 11:17:12 +0000 UTC]

Haha and you did already extremely well!! So now I'm getting even more excited to see your fanart!

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AledaneF [2016-01-24 13:03:58 +0000 UTC]

i just can't stop being amazed with how breathtakingly awesome this details is. really, this is most detailed reference sheet i ever seen! i just can believe that he is real and alive and i can meet him somewhere  and he is really beautiful and majestic!
ah, do some people really think that your characters are canines?? i just don't understand it  yeah, i'm not really good with canine/feline anatomy, but i just see that he is a cat, not a dog at all.

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FelisGlacialis In reply to AledaneF [2016-01-31 11:16:38 +0000 UTC]

Thankies!! From the very beginning he invaded my mind, he has been kinda different and very detailed- truly invasive... Stian appears also very alive in my head, I can just watch a movie of him - or actually much deeper- I can really feel him and know what is inside his head Oo. He is kind of me, but not at all like a fursona. He's still himself as a character on his own and yet he's so similar to myself...difficult to describe.
And yeah this feline canine thing, it has to do with very small details that kind of play tricks with the overall perception - but still some people seem really blind or biased. I hope my huge tutorial in process may help

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AledaneF In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-01-31 12:50:36 +0000 UTC]

ah, i think i really understand this! when i was just a little kid, i seen some worlds and creatures in my head. this looks like a dreaming but if you don't sleeping. thoughts, inner vision - i don't know how explain this. and everyone of my characters - just someones i meet in my 'inner world'. so, for me they are alive and real in some way. they just look like alive! your words reminds me about Anef, he is something like 'me from another world'. not really 'fursona' but still a larger part of my soul.
and i think some people just used to see canine art everywhere and so almost every animal are 'doggy' or 'wolfy' for them. ...uh, some years ago i draw my feline (and everyone!) characters as canines, maybe just because i was inspired by 'wolf art'.

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FelisGlacialis In reply to AledaneF [2016-02-07 11:11:26 +0000 UTC]

Yeah indeed - it seems that we have the same way of experiencing our characters. I also sometimes feel and see them the way you draw them- in this kinda spiritual way. Although I'm not always that good in drawing symbolical, but that's maybe why your art inspires me too
Yeah indeed - whenever people see characters, it tends indeed to be some canid. Now I'm planning to do some more wolf-art myself too. But this is more fan-art of Wolf's Rain and Balto.

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AledaneF In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-02-07 15:00:33 +0000 UTC]

ah, yes! most (or even all) of my artworks are symbolic scenes. i love this theme so much and i always respect the artists who put their soul in their artworks and characters. and i'm really glad that i can inspire you!
wow, so i will wait for your fanart! i remember Wolf's Rain - and for me this story full of symbolism and interesting ideas. i think i need to watch it again.
and also Balto was and still one of my favorites :3

and i get your psd file of your part of arttrade, so i just want to say thank you again!

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WolfGrowl96 [2016-01-23 03:49:45 +0000 UTC]

holy hell do you have ur own tutorial siderians book? or somethin like that? XD

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FelisGlacialis In reply to WolfGrowl96 [2016-01-26 15:09:06 +0000 UTC]

tutorial siderians book?? nope? I only plan to write a story about them (other than my comic)

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DaemoniumNocturnal [2016-01-22 23:14:49 +0000 UTC]

ah this is a very useful tutorial! Stian is indeed very typical and in some of his characteristics he is quite unique and even different from other siderians(and he is your favorite Siderian after all ), so it will be very helpful for sure as for a canine and feline anatomy comparison, that's something people seem to mix up a lot D:ah well.. anatomy and animal distinction in general..
this makes me even more tempted to draw him again, if I look back at the drawings I did of him, their pretty afwul...

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FelisGlacialis In reply to DaemoniumNocturnal [2016-01-31 11:12:33 +0000 UTC]

Thankies! Yeah, since the first day he arrived in my head he was very different from my other characters he was the first one to have a goatee- I used not to like that until Stian appeared Oo   Yeah and I really can't understand why people don't see the difference between canids and felids - although I have to admit that seeing is something very different than drawing....so I'm going to make a huge tutorial on that and hopefully it helps for many people. And I generally distinguish individuals of other species as good as I do with people. It happens quite often that I mix two people. Some people don't even see who is Neo and who is Nintu of my two black cats Oo - I find it super obvious.
And damn I'm super curious to see him draw by you again!!! En geen zorgen, die vorige tekening vind ik ook nog steeds supergaaf- die ga ik binnenkort printen en in mijn Stian-map stoppen XD

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DaemoniumNocturnal In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-02-02 07:58:53 +0000 UTC]

no problem! indeed, it's pretty cool how he just shows up out of nowhere and has influenced the whole species as well XD

aye me neither, I guess it is a bit harder to see when in drawn form (I personally don't have that much troubl distinguishing animals in real life I think, but when people draw them some of their features can get warped and t becomes harder to see what it's meant to be, but that depends on the artist too) but some things are so obvious, especially if the person drawing them knows proper anatomy I still can't get why so many people mistake Yves and stian too... the differences are really obvious O.O
ah but some people make themselves look like the rest O.o so I don't blame you there XD but that's really odd that people can't tell Neo and Nintu from eachother, come on the one has long hair and the other short D: < 
thanks, I hope I can draw him again eventually and hopefully do him more justice then before
echt? ik zie echt flink wat fouten erin   gaaf trouwens dat he een stian map hebt er is pas zeker wat gaaf werk van Stian tevoorschijn gekomen door de art trades

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FelisGlacialis In reply to DaemoniumNocturnal [2016-02-07 10:52:37 +0000 UTC]

Yeah it's weird how people tend to look only at the colour to distinguish characters. The fact that some artists actually indeed use the same line-art and same character design and just change the colour to call it another character isn't helpfull either. As for adoptables - but then I find it justified XD.
En jep, jou werk gaat ook in die map

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DaemoniumNocturnal In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-02-07 14:25:58 +0000 UTC]

indeed, O.O I guess cause it is one of the most notable differences, but I personally think that color isn't as important as people make it out to be when creating a character or creature. 

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alexacana [2016-01-22 22:09:58 +0000 UTC]

Stian and your other characters are fantastic and unique creatures. I hope to be able to draw him one day and continue to catch up on the comic! He and his mate are going to be wonderful parents and have a lovely family. I hope all goes well for them! 

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FelisGlacialis In reply to alexacana [2016-01-31 11:01:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!! Lol, I hope you don't mix up the white main character of my comic (Yves) with Stian? I definitely have to draw them next to each other to show the differences They are two totally different characters and the only thing they have in common is their white colour, and even that differs. But anyway, I really appreciate it that you read my comic
And it's true that both Yves and Stian will get a lovely family

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Svartya [2016-01-22 02:24:13 +0000 UTC]

I think what i most like in Stian are his very expressive eyes and strong look! i really love the format of his eyes with those black edges around them!

his fur is another thing that looks so majestic and beautiful! Stan himself has this all very imposing look! i also love the way he moves and walks! imposing yet majestic!

these are surely very useful tips to draw him! as each Siderian got different and specific kind of fur and hair on them.. Stian's ones are one of my favorites!     

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Svartya [2016-01-31 10:59:09 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! lol, you find his eyes expressive? I think he has only two expressions: pokerface and deathglare XD. But especially the deathglare is indeed strong.
And yeah I would love to see him move more like in a movie (not just my two simple animations). His movements are highly inspired by tigers and to a lesser degree by my cats.
Fur is indeed quite variable for each individual siderian/metafeline and Stian is a quite exceptional one ^^ Which makes it difficult to draw him correctly I think.

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Svartya In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-02-06 04:18:37 +0000 UTC]

ahahaha it is exactly the deathglare i love! but don't know.. i always found feline eyes so expressing somehow..i have this with my cats that i look at their eyes and kinda feel how they must be feeling XD  

aah i would love too! and those two animations already look soooo nice!   

yes Stian can be a bit tricky..i remember some years ago i drew him and i would love to try again since he and the Siderians changed so much too O: gotta love those airplane ears!    

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Svartya [2016-02-07 10:54:03 +0000 UTC]

Ha I see XD. Lol, yeah I think my art improved a bit - anatomy wise. So it makes it difficult for others to keep up. Now they are quite stable I think

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Vannjaren [2016-01-21 23:55:23 +0000 UTC]

Ah, he always looks wonderful, and making this sheet was indeed a good idea... though I personally find him super distinctive so I find it odd that people make such obvious mistakes with him, especially the canine anatomy... (but then people apparently don't have a working connection between their eyes and their common dense. Someone was once convinced that Krovendraekk looked like thylacines... )
Ha, as I've said before though, I really hate my own drawing of him, yes it was done before any of the new refs were made with the updated features and such, or the new Siderian ref, but... It's still extremely ugly. There is no excuse for that level of failure... :'D If only I had time I'd delete that pile of shit entirely and redraw him for you. :'D

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Vannjaren [2016-01-24 11:56:36 +0000 UTC]

Thankies! Yeah, it's mostly that people miss important details and still, some people find him look like Yves or any other white siderian Oo. It is interesting to see that you notice that people make such obvious mistakes and that you can point them out. That implies that you possess knowledge that they don't have (and I totally agree that you know a hell of a lot about anatomy!). So it's really a paradox that you still say that you know nothing and yet you can criticize them - to me that implies that you have at least some sort of -maybe well hidden, not acknowledged- bunch of knowledge and that you're -maybe not wanting to accept it- kind of convinced that that is right.

And as I really like this drawing you made of Stian (and I would love to see another one!!), and I strongly prefer not to hear any negative about it. As for this critique paradox - you know that I really appreciate your feedback (relating to the other conversation we had) - and I strongly encourage you to continue with 'nitpicking' and expressing your feelings about my art (even though I may not always agree or react a bit 'cold' on it-  but that's normal right?). So when you give me feedback again (please do!) - leave the 'I'm not worth it and I'm completely shit' part out - at least on my pages, even though you may feel like that. I already know you can't help feeling like that, but I don't want to read that over and over again. Instead - fill the space you spend on 'I'm not worth it' with Krovendrakk information, rather than all that negative shit.

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Vannjaren In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-01-25 00:28:01 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome, as always!
And I do find it odd since he's such a distinctive character. Sometimes I wonder if the people who think he looks like any other white Siderian can't tell other people apart either, since your characters are as distinct as people.
He looks very little at all like Yves to me, and for one thing, I don't know how people can miss the fact that Yves has pink eyelids and nose and Stian has black. Even with zero anatomy knowledge you can still tell the difference between pink and black!!!

Eh, I still think I have very little knowledge at all(if I have hidden knowledge, it's so well hidden that I can't find it! ). I do think however in this case that these people still have much better knowledge than I do, and can draw many thousands of times better than I can... BUT they make these mistakes because they don't pay enough attention.
I think maybe I just notice these mistakes since I was maybe more observant than they were when looking at your characters. But this is more a lack of paying attention on their part, not that I have any skills or knowledge that they don't, because the opposite is the case.

Argh, I personally really hate it... it's actually one of my drawings I hate the most. I think that it bothers me more because it was a gift... when my own art is done badly it's not so frustrating - my characters are used to being drawn terribly! (maybe gift art confuses them since they're used to putting up with my drawing... :'D)
I wish I had time to make a new drawing of Stian to replace the old shitty one, but time seems to be getting in an even shorter supply lately, and I have so much other things I want to draw too, like dozens of Krovendraekk running around in my head. :'D If I can do it though some day, I'd love to draw him again and try to do a better job of it.

I understand, but I still get very nervous on giving any feedback that isn't 100% positive... And I try not to do that, but sometimes when I f**k up I just get nervous and regretful and sort of panic-splurge and it just comes out. ^^

And really? I didn't want to spam you with Kroven-ranting when you're so busy and have much better things to occupy your time with. If you are actually interested, if there is ever something you want to ask, go ahead! ^^ I can't guarantee that I'll have an answer (though so far I haven't had a question about them that I couldn't answer - evidence that I clearly spend waaay too much time thinking about Krovens... ), nor can I guarantee that I will reply quickly - depends on the length of the answer. I will definitely answer any questions eventually though.

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Vannjaren [2016-02-07 11:07:17 +0000 UTC]

Lol - yeah for me it's often that I'm drawing while on skype or that I need to rush it - so most things are either kinda neglected details that I think 'ah fuck it' or I simply have overlooked them. In the first case -when I'm aware of it - I can kinda predict that you're going to comment on it XD - on the latter it's helpful when you point it out if I haven't seen it. So it's still worth commenting on things you feel are off, forgotten or that look misplaced/out of balance (so don't be too nervous, even though my Stian-like coldness sometimes leaks a bit through in comments).

mwhahaa I have already printed your Stian-drawing and put it in the Stian-folder haha. I still like it. There are only some minor mistakes, but the overall pictures is correct and typical.
And about Stian and Yves - I dunno if I already have said it, but I'm thinking of making a sketch of them two looking at each other like 'wtf'?

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Vannjaren In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-02-07 12:47:30 +0000 UTC]

I understand that... and sometimes myself when I've been working on something for quite some time, I can no longer "see" mistakes that are quite obvious, then I look back later and notice them. :'D I guess if you still want me to comment then I can do so, even if there is a bit of nerves involved. :'D

Argh, though those mistakes really irritate me. Need to one day draw him "properly"(by my shitty standards at least), even if it is a few years before I get around to it.
Hahaha, yes, I fully support this idea! Would be very funny to see them side-by-side, and just how obviously and clearly they look NOTHING like each other. Yhry are both Siderians and are both male, but these are the only similarities. They're not even the same shade of white!!! :'D (if people can mistake these two such different characters, I wonder if they'll mistake my dark-coloured/blackish Krovens for each other when/if I get to draw them more. :'D At least if they don't mistake them for canids that would be something... )

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dropkiick [2016-01-21 23:54:19 +0000 UTC]

help

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FelisGlacialis In reply to dropkiick [2016-01-24 11:42:29 +0000 UTC]

  

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dropkiick In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-01-24 15:49:51 +0000 UTC]

xD I jest, I love how in depth this is

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AywenSix [2016-01-21 21:54:19 +0000 UTC]

Really useful ! You put a lot of details in this character. It's really clear that you love him a lot

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FelisGlacialis In reply to AywenSix [2016-01-24 11:41:32 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! Yeah, since the 20th of August 2009, he has invaded my brain and he has never left....

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CaptainMorwen [2016-01-21 21:17:00 +0000 UTC]

It is a helpful tutorial even if you don't plan to draw him. Very nice ^^

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FelisGlacialis In reply to CaptainMorwen [2016-01-24 11:41:00 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I think it's generally useful for getting insight in feline-canine differences

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CaptainMorwen In reply to FelisGlacialis [2016-01-24 18:45:02 +0000 UTC]

Agreed! It helps a lot with stances and body shape. I love how the Siderians are so oriental looking ^^
Beautiful arts!

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FelisGlacialis In reply to CaptainMorwen [2016-01-31 11:59:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!!

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Spinning-Jenny [2016-01-21 20:59:57 +0000 UTC]

Awesome tutorial!  

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FelisGlacialis In reply to Spinning-Jenny [2016-01-24 11:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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