tainted-heart278 [2008-08-06 23:26:54 +0000 UTC]
First, I would like to note that my love of Nature stems from my childhood on a quaint farm and that I consider myself an environmentalist, though, not one as a product of my generation nor as a product of sensationalism.
A few other quick notes: a) not all environmentally-concerned peoples are atheists (as you imply: "environmentalist do [actually] believe in a god") and b) not all those people are fanatical.
Watch which words you choose
As a malcontented religion-dislike-er, I find it offensive that you are attempting to describe environmentalism as a religion. I believe what you are trying to describe is an ideology's beckoning for one to organize one's life around a particular code of conduct for a certain desired outcome. This definition can be applied to both religion and environmentalism.
Religion's ideology is about requesting a person to modify their behavior in the current world so that they might enjoy benefits in a supposed afterlife. If environmentalists are promoting an ideology, as the "-ism" suggests, then they are desiring modification of human behavior so that the human may benefit in the current world. There just maybe no "pie in the sky" for the environmentalist, unless the particular individual believes their particular Grand Spiritual Force will reward them for maintaining the planet's livability.
While studying philosophy one usually comes across the "Problem of Other Minds". This entails the difficulty of truly and absolutely knowing what another conscious being is thinking. After all, you can converse with them, they can assure you that such and such way is how they feel, but you can never really know what their perspective and inner self is like. Thus, when confronted with the "God" problem, one can never really verify the phenomenon of religious experience because it is internal and therefore unverifiable.
However, environmentalism is based around the concurrence of human minds, trained the world over, about our mind's perception of the physical-ality of how the myriad of particles of our planet interact (i.e. what we consider hard facts about our experiments in chemistry and other sciences).
Brain-washing? More like an attempt at guidance
Authority figures of children have to "force" children to behave in certain ways, simply because they (probably, though not always) have a greater amount of experience.
For example, some humans love fire and like to describe themselves as pyro-maniacs. Yet this doesn't mean that an adult in their childhood shouldn't have taken away the matches. Not only could a child set itself on fire, but it could burn down the house of its parents and ruin a once comfortable living situation for the entire family.
And further, children eventually (and at uneven intervals) mature mentally and begin to question what adults have said to them. But they question the ideals of their parental units, not physical facts about how the ecosystem. (Since your essay centered on a Western perspective, I would like to point out that most people in those countries, young and old, walk around a veritable scientific illiteracy.)
Paper
I don't feel like going in to this so someone else's long answer will suffice.
Vegetarianism
In becoming a vegetarian one isn't necessarily saving animals, (because their muscle fibers are still consumed on a ridiculous scale) but rather that one is withdrawing one's support of the industrial meat farms.
Somewhere behind this idea, is the hope that if enough people withdrew their support from the industry, then the industry would shrink gradually and in this way less animals would be raised, simply because of the Capitalist law of supply and demand.
At any rate, one doesn't necessarily "suffer" from not getting to eat cow. One can obtain protein from other sources, and as well, there has been an increase in the quality of meat substitutes so that chewing the food greatly resembles the pleasurable texture of meat. (As a side note, most people enjoy meat for the sauces served with it.)
"A future in which I do not exist."
Those children you wish to have—their entire generation—will look upon the older generations with much scorn. "Why didn’t you do something to help curb the effects that so many qualified people pointed out to you, especially when there were at least a few easy steps?" "Why did you cut our lives short at the expense of your pleasure?"
In 6.5 billion years, the Sun will expand to the Red Giant stage of its evolution, and swell to engulf the inner planets' orbits. A million or so years before this, everything on Earth (assuming there is something) will have died. Why fucking do anything? Why not fuck your brains out with the delight of no condom even if it left a slew of children behind you? Why not inject into your system whatever gives you the best rush? Why not utilize the enjoyable ways to destroy your body and remove your consciousness from this world?
Other humans without this mentality and with emotional connection to you will miss interacting with you?
You may suddenly realize that you’d rather live your life with installations of pleasure rather than great bursts because the lows after the grand ruptures of bliss ache so greatly?
Maybe you do have a right to the afore-mentioned (pleasurable) suicide, but while alive you are a member of a planet and don’t get to (as a collective of squandering) pull down the rest of our globe.
In your old age, which would you prefer pleasure-seeker: to die in a hospital or to die in an armed conflict over a rare source of fresh water? Death-bed or violent clash?
If eventually all things die, then why not cling to what life you have?
Yes, I seek pleasure and wish to avoid pain, as is natural. However, long-term pleasure is what I would desire. If for no other reason than that I quake before violence and wish to do everything I can to avoid it.
All this being said, one cannot coerce other humans to act in certain ways (most would call that fascism or at least abusive). But, I can go about trying to make rational arguments as to why I believe those behaviors will reward the individual in the here and now, even if they have to have ‘faith’ that the air quality has improved (or etc).
Even if you think I am an eco-fascist, then I’m at least kind enough to offer you the alternative of so-called Lazy Environmentalism .
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MountainWolf314 [2008-07-05 01:28:34 +0000 UTC]
One-sided, hell yes. You know, if it ever were a religion, it would be one that actually saves our asses for real, and not in some paradisiac realm.
But, agreed on a point. To have some actual impact on public opinion, we need to focus media coverage more on the actual effects on humans and less on the poor little monkeys and whatever, as much as I love then XD
Teh. As much of an enviro-mental-ist as I am, your views offer a nice realistic touch some Green Party militants really need.
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