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Mutoh [2013-02-25 07:01:13 +0000 UTC]
Pardon me, but what exactly does this mean?
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IllegalSympathy In reply to Mutoh [2014-01-20 12:43:12 +0000 UTC]
That all the cool "anonymous" quotes you find in history were made by a woman, but because women weren't allowed opinions their names were never put down with said quote.
Weather or not this is actually fact or just a cool feminist quote in itself I cannot confirm.
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arosyks [2013-02-05 06:29:54 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, this is probably true. For a while in history women couldn't even own their own thoughts. No, seriously. If a women wrote anything, had a good idea, or even made up an invention, it was considered property of their husband or father. Sucks, huh? Since men got all the credit for things women did, who knows how many things throughout history they actually did do. It seems like it shouldn't matter nowadays, but it does suck when a guy gets all up on his high horse and says things like "women are useless, they didn't even event anything" and stuff like that.
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arosyks In reply to arosyks [2013-02-05 06:33:54 +0000 UTC]
*invent
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RAMENmanga-ka [2013-02-05 06:15:31 +0000 UTC]
Agreed. MUCH agreed. Glad that we have more place in society now though so anonymous isn't as necessary anymore :3
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notyouneitherme [2013-02-05 06:12:53 +0000 UTC]
... i dont really see wHy it matters but okay xD
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Nefferee [2013-02-05 06:05:31 +0000 UTC]
A nice quote, though it's a shame about all of cheeky comments and the butthurt replies. And before someone blasts me for being a sexist/dumb/asshole/uneducated twerp, I'm a proud woman who just has thick skin or has gotten over herself.
Honestly? If you want to help get over the sexism bump (cough, mountain, cough), don't waste your energy replying to this or any other comments you don't like and devote some of the research you demand others to do to find a way to make a real impact, rather than giving someone else the pleasure of riling you.
And, as another thought, when I first heard about J.K Rowling, I wasn't that horrified. I was amused. "Silly publishers. How dumb of you to think that."
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AnglAlejandro [2013-02-05 06:03:55 +0000 UTC]
Interesting!!!
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Billehgoat [2013-02-05 05:57:29 +0000 UTC]
Anonymous is for faggots anyway. Fuck 4chan good thing woman learned to wise up and get off that awful site.
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stars-water [2013-02-05 05:29:23 +0000 UTC]
Oh, that's cool. ouo Mildly inspiring, even.
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final-noise In reply to Soul-Daemon [2013-02-05 05:26:28 +0000 UTC]
Your stamp of approval is appreciated.
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final-noise In reply to HFXmermaid [2013-02-05 05:30:36 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for compliment!
I feel like people are more trying to start a political argument with me than actually critique the typography. The message is extremely important, but still...
I love all of your mermaid stuff, btw. They're brilliant!
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Paintbait [2013-02-05 04:38:43 +0000 UTC]
For most of history, no one cared.
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Paintbait In reply to Paintbait [2013-02-06 00:04:59 +0000 UTC]
It isn't hostility, it's just fact. Turns out: it's still true. For example: Why do you care? I wouldn't.
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MasterExploder6 In reply to Paintbait [2013-02-06 08:32:32 +0000 UTC]
I didn't say I cared, You just seemed kinda hostile the way you put it.
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Aglaismilberti [2013-02-05 04:27:28 +0000 UTC]
A complete lie but oh well. Here's a fun truth: The first Celt quoted in Roman literature was a woman.
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RAMENmanga-ka In reply to final-noise [2013-02-05 06:18:58 +0000 UTC]
I say it was the Bible. Men somewhere along the line realized through examples of societies like Sparta that women were becoming too prominent and so they decided to make an excuse (the men) to push down women and make them inferior and servants to men. Just look at the story of Adam and Eve. Right there man. It's a conspiracy in history >___>
That's just my interpretation, but really, look how much pain and suffering a woman can take. We may not be able to lift as much as most men, but we sure as hell take more shit than they do, and retain our own sanity.
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HFXmermaid In reply to Treetail [2013-02-05 04:44:36 +0000 UTC]
go take a class, LOL. You can't google? *facepalm*
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Nefferee In reply to Rhys-Lightspark [2013-02-05 05:49:57 +0000 UTC]
I agree with this comment. Not the bit about being a dude (though I trust that you are one, if you believe you are), but the quote. It's a shame that people can't remember that throughout most of history groups besides females were stigmatized, due to race, religion, class, etc.
And guess what. I'm saying this as a woman.
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tehMuffinMan1 [2013-02-05 03:36:28 +0000 UTC]
dicks or gtfo
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Blundom [2013-02-05 02:56:53 +0000 UTC]
Im a man -Anonymous
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ZombieHun [2013-02-05 02:36:37 +0000 UTC]
i never knew who anonymous was. I thought that was weird that we'd have so many awesome quotes and poems and what not and yet know clue who the author was.
two and two together, it finally makes sense!
And here I was horrified at the idea that I was not able to read anything women have published back in the "olden days" when women weren't allowed to have their own names on published works but instead would have to use their husbands name just to name an example.
And I just finished going through some comments...really, J.K. Rowling was advised to just use her initials? Goes to show how far we really haven't come as a society.
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annamae411 In reply to ZombieHun [2013-02-05 03:35:24 +0000 UTC]
did you know j.k. rowling doesn't have a middle name, her initials are actually j. rowling, but they had her put in another letter, so she used, I think, her mom's initial.
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Desuke-Love In reply to ZombieHun [2013-02-05 02:53:30 +0000 UTC]
It's just because there's a stigma attached for boys that states women write girly things, so if something was written by a girl, it's probably girly. But then again, they also told Jo that you don't become rich or successful writing children's books
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HFXmermaid In reply to Desuke-Love [2013-02-05 04:48:32 +0000 UTC]
fun children's literacy fact I learned while taking a course, originally Harry Potter was going to be a female main character but she was advised in early drafts that male characters are read by both boys and girls while girls are the ones mostly reading books about girls, which sadly is a real trend.
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ZombieHun In reply to Desuke-Love [2013-02-05 03:10:16 +0000 UTC]
i had no clue it was supposed to be a boys book. The cover art totally says unisex lol
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final-noise In reply to ZombieHun [2013-02-05 03:26:08 +0000 UTC]
to us it's unisex because it's okay for us to like things boys might like. But it's taboo for boys to read anything that looks remotely "girly" because it's obviously something to be ashamed of. -insert biggest sigh in the history of sighs-
I doubt you'll walk into starbucks and see a straight guy reading anything by Cassandra clare, Meg Cabot, or anything that's the slightest bit feminine.
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Artbymoga In reply to final-noise [2013-02-05 04:36:33 +0000 UTC]
It's such a shame society has to be that way. Sorry, I hope you don't mind me jumping in. I just think its a shame that it's somewhat acceptable for a woman to rise to the stature of a man, but deplorable for a man to sink to the level of a woman. I hope someday a little boy playing with barbies can be accepted as much as a little girl playing with trucks.
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Blitz11 In reply to Artbymoga [2013-02-05 07:08:50 +0000 UTC]
I really think you're maybe looking at this situation from the wrong angle. I'm a guy, putting that out there now because it's pretty relevant, and growing up, if you did something that wasn't very masculine or downright feminine, you were just considered "gay". I'm not sure if it was so much "sinking to the level of a woman" as it's simply people being ignorant and homophobic. The way you put it, gender is viewed as top and bottom, but I see it more like they're side by side, but with a huge barrier between them.
I'll be honest, in high school I didn't give a single damn about women's rights because it just didn't affect me directly but how you said "I hope someday a little boy playing with barbies can be accepted as much as a little girl playing with trucks," really struck a chord with me and I wanted to respond. You see, I got swept up in the whole My Little Pony craze (if it weren't obvious by the avatar) a year or so ago and Lauren Faust's vision was to create a show for girls that didn't suck, could be enjoyed by everyone, and would have relatable characters learning meaningful lessons. My experience with this show has actually made me respect women immensely because it finally bridged that "barrier" that I previously mentioned for myself. It showed me that things for women, or in this case for girls, can truly be meaningful and worthwhile as well.
So going back to what you said about barbies and trucks, I agree entirely and I would even go as far as saying that the "pink" and "blue" aisles should be done away with and merged because kids should be able to choose what THEY want. Though, and it might simply be a regional thing because I live in a bible belt community, I think the main reason why guys are afraid or simply unwilling to embrace feminine things isn't entirely because they feel that they would be "sinking to a woman's level" but more along the lines of not being confident enough in their sexuality and not wanting others to think they're "gay" or something. That, and some men are just inherently more masculine than others and there's really nothing wrong with that.
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Artbymoga In reply to Blitz11 [2013-02-05 23:06:54 +0000 UTC]
Blitz -
Thank you so much for replying! I'm glad that my comment "struck a chord". It's a shame that a boy showing any signs of feminity is considered "y" in our society. But I do think there is hope. Like Bronies for example. The fact that males can like what most would be considered a "girly" show so openly gives me confidence that one day we can do away with the "pink and blue aisles". I am so glad that you have a new view of women due to that wonderful show! Have you ever read any works by the psychologist Sandra Bem? Her entire life's work focuses on just this topic. Based on your response, you seem super passionate about this subject, and I think you would really enjoy her book "the lenses of gender".
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Blitz11 In reply to Artbymoga [2013-02-06 09:54:52 +0000 UTC]
I'm so glad we agree on this! I was afraid I was accidentally going to spark an argument. It is really a shame that men that aren't entirely masculine tend to be looked down upon by other men. I've always felt that having a good balance between masculinity and femininity can create a better person in general, one that carries the positive traits of both genders, without going so far as to sacrificing their personal sexual identities. A man can still be "manly" without being chauvinistic and unfeeling. Simply understanding how the other side thinks can go a long way. That's why the main thing that I've valued about Faust's show is that it showed me that boys and girls really aren't all that different. We have similar wants and desires, dreams and aspirations, problems and worries, that I could relate to personally thinking back to myself growing up.
I've actually been very interested in gender studies for a long time now actually, but I've never really done any formal research into it. I think I'll certainly look into the book you suggested! Thank you! ^_^
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final-noise In reply to Artbymoga [2013-02-05 04:54:03 +0000 UTC]
You're a goddess. I agree completely.
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Artbymoga In reply to final-noise [2013-02-05 23:10:35 +0000 UTC]
Haha thanks for the compliment, but you are truly the goddess. Thank you so much for posting something like this. Often times it seems that people have given up on the fight for gender equality, but it's DA's like you that remind all of us that we've barely scratched the surface. YOU KICK ASS! I AM SO GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY FEMINIST(I MEAN EQUALIST) ON DA!!!
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Tsumerai-Kyon [2013-02-05 02:36:08 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but not anymore, Rule 16. There are NO girls on the internet.
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