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hiblue11 [2020-04-01 15:41:32 +0000 UTC]
I am a yaoi fan and i think its okay to like it but its When it becomes unhealthy where the problem starts. Like their is much Yaoi porn out there where itβs rape. Actually most of it is. The characters saying they donβt want to and people thinking itβs hot is the problem. And yes, most Yaoi is are just sexual but there are yaois that are really good and show a normal gay relationship. Although its kinda the same with any kind of porn. It shows unrealistic expectations and shows a community of people or thing being fetishized. So if youβre against Yaoi for gay people being fetishized, you should probably be against most porn too.
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Xxscarlet15xX [2019-06-24 02:26:13 +0000 UTC]
People just need to learn, if you dont like something, suck it up and move on with your life. The world won't come to an end just because you lack common interest with someone you dont even know. And saying things to someone like " Kill your self " doesn't help anyone, not you and expesialy not them.
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FLUXXHUNTER [2019-05-26 21:14:10 +0000 UTC]
Y u not spell proply
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snowkyu [2019-01-05 14:05:21 +0000 UTC]
Hating yaoi =/= homophobic
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WOLFBLADE111 [2019-01-02 14:51:15 +0000 UTC]
Cause You Guys Keep Shoving It In our Faces! Everytime I go to look for something related to a pairing I like Yaoi is always Fucking there, every single fucking time and I am absolutely sick and tired of it.
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snowkyu In reply to WOLFBLADE111 [2019-01-05 14:06:12 +0000 UTC]
Because yaoi is something popular so of course you're going to see it everywhere.No one is shoving it in your face.
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WOLFBLADE111 In reply to snowkyu [2019-01-05 14:23:48 +0000 UTC]
Sure feels like it.
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ROCKKSTAR64 In reply to WOLFBLADE111 [2019-01-31 05:57:29 +0000 UTC]
How are we shoving it at your faces? You looked up pairings and got yaoi, no one made you look it up.
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WOLFBLADE111 In reply to ROCKKSTAR64 [2019-01-31 16:53:50 +0000 UTC]
Okay granted it's not intentional in the shoving in the face part but when I look up pictures of just one character, there's pairing pics of them with another dude. Unintentional but still something that ticks me off.
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DarkDraws454 [2018-02-03 21:40:06 +0000 UTC]
Ooooh, the feeling.
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Mewtres [2017-11-18 21:46:02 +0000 UTC]
mayyyybe its because some people (mostly the mlm community) are sick of gay men being fetishized by straight girls?
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RetashiZainos In reply to RetashiZainos [2019-07-07 00:27:56 +0000 UTC]
But people can do what they want, I'm not hating.
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greatfandomart In reply to Mewtres [2019-06-14 13:05:22 +0000 UTC]
a lot of fujoshi are also lesbian, bi, or trans, and straight, bi, gay, and trans men can like yaoi too, so like, screw off
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08coconut13 In reply to Mewtres [2018-02-03 19:12:13 +0000 UTC]
Don't act like yuri, loli, oppai, furries etc. are not fetishized by straight men. Everyone can enjoy their weird fetishes.
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08coconut13 In reply to Starweird03 [2018-07-01 02:48:22 +0000 UTC]
yes gay men and gay girl. I am just saying everything is fetishized by everyone.
btw Do you think hetero is fetishized by gay people ?
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Starweird03 In reply to 08coconut13 [2018-07-01 05:00:28 +0000 UTC]
No, Iβm just saying that not only straight girls enjoy Yaoi. I have gay friends, both male and female, who read and enjoy Yaoi.
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FNIAFANN [2017-05-16 08:56:58 +0000 UTC]
YAOI FANS.. Y U NO COMMIT SUICIDE
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RetashiZainos In reply to FNIAFANN [2019-07-07 00:25:15 +0000 UTC]
That is so offensive, so please don't say things like that. It pisses me of, γ°γ
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SunnyVonWeber In reply to FNIAFANN [2017-12-29 18:10:01 +0000 UTC]
Yaoi haters... u no ignore things that u don't like?
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lvnomq In reply to FNIAFANN [2017-12-03 01:40:56 +0000 UTC]
Y U no get a life.Β
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blablabla33366 In reply to FNIAFANN [2017-08-27 18:33:20 +0000 UTC]
Fuck you yaoi is life I'm now going to make an art about how much yaoi is awesome and you need to shut up!
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ToxicVibe In reply to FNIAFANN [2017-07-06 06:05:57 +0000 UTC]
Because it's retarded to kill ourselves over something that we like just because someone else doesn't like it.
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Meows4Vodka [2017-03-07 07:57:20 +0000 UTC]
It's called an opinion
IM A HARDCORE YAOI LOVER ACTUALLY
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EMOLOGIC [2017-03-01 06:51:43 +0000 UTC]
am i the only one in the comments that likes yaoi??? oh, god....I just wrote a whole paragraph to a person who posted hate for yaoi...I am so done with these haters right now...
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GlazeGuts [2017-02-01 10:22:35 +0000 UTC]
I know this is fucking old but yaoi fucking sucks. I'm not hetero myself but yaoi and it's stupid ass fangirls make me want to fucking kill myself.
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Paper-Piper In reply to GlazeGuts [2017-09-11 08:15:38 +0000 UTC]
I'm bi, and honestly the majority of yaoi fangirls I have seen were pretty homophobic, and not in the "EW" way, but in the "OMG ITS SO HAWT WHEN GUYS KISS" way. That's fetishizing, not to mention the majority of them don't like the idea of girls with girls.Β
its not the genre itself, but how people treat it like a fetish when its not.Β
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Worshiper-of-Sithis In reply to Paper-Piper [2017-12-16 00:03:08 +0000 UTC]
That's not homophobic. Homophobia is when you HATE something, not enjoy it. :/
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Paper-Piper In reply to Worshiper-of-Sithis [2017-12-16 00:10:14 +0000 UTC]
No, its homophobic because its FETISHIZING. If you get your rocks off to guys making out, stereotyping them and spreading harmful stereotypes and harass irl gay men and demonize bi men for being interested in women too (the majority of yaoi fangirls have done this, I've experienced it myself when I was masquerading as a guy for one website)Β
Yaoi is trash, and its annoying when you want to contribute to representation but it always gets grouped under the yaoi tag.Β Do you know how many times I've had to ask people who reblog my art to NOT tag it with yaoi??Β
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Worshiper-of-Sithis In reply to Paper-Piper [2017-12-16 00:25:07 +0000 UTC]
I don't mind yaoi myself and honestly I haven't seen yaoi fans do any of this, but if they are doing these things (harassing real gay men, demonizing bi people and spreading stereotypes they KNOW to be harmful,) then yeah, I can see that. However let's face it: just as many people get their jollies from seeing a guy and girl make out or two girls make out as see two guys make out; it's just the way humans are, enjoying seeing each other 'enjoy' ourselves. Also, since you clearly have no idea what yaoi means, yaoi is a Japanese term for when two guys are screwing each other, however, as you have probably seen it HAS been used for the wrong thing. Shounen-ai (the family-friendly version I enjoy), however, is when two guys (dating or interested in dating one another) are flirting, holding hands, sharing loving kisses, going on dates and the like.
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Paper-Piper In reply to Worshiper-of-Sithis [2017-12-16 00:41:28 +0000 UTC]
You haven't been on the internet much if you haven't seen any of that, and its different. Β Nobody fetishizes a heterosexual/different sex couple in a relationship because its a 'normal' relationship by society's standards. However lesbians are heavily fetishized in media, same with gay men. The only difference is that you see more of the lesbians in live action American TV.
You're FETISHIZING something and that's what makes it harmful!!
I know what yaoi means, I'm an anime geek and Yaoi has ALWAYS been for the wrong thing. Β If you knew the definition of yaoi, its literally a homosexual relationship INTENDED FOR A FEMALE AUDIENCE.Β
It was made FOR fetishization purposes because "sinful xDD" and considering how Japan is on their views of LGBT, its not even used for representation.Β
In case you're wondering, the 'yaoi' made for gay men is called Bara. (Which by the way doesn't mean muscled like a lot of people think it does)Β
Considering my friend had Β dragged me into her world of yaoi, I haven't seen one work that wasn't fetishizing the shit out of the couple, and the 'uke' is always feminine, basically a girl in a guy's body, if that makes any sense.Β
Even in fandoms like Kuroshitsuji, Hetalia, Assassination Classroom and Hellsing where mlm ships are common, the fans always feminize one of the guys. (There's more fandoms I know, these are just a few)Β
I mean, in Hellsing there's one mlm ship that most of the fans do right, without any of that feminizing and stereotyping bullshit I found in the others.
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Worshiper-of-Sithis In reply to Paper-Piper [2017-12-16 01:40:24 +0000 UTC]
I had this big long thing but my mobile decided to fuck me over. History of yaoi: girl sees no gayness. Frustrated. Makes manga w/ gay in. Found out manaka has boobs. Someone says: YAma nashi, Ochi nashi, Imi nashi (no climax, no resolution, no meaning). Fans of manga take it as name as fuck you to person. YA-O-I history. I have been on the internet. Still haven't seen it. If someone fetishiz (???) about feet doing something in particular that doesn't make feet bad. Thanks. Will look it up. I ship SasuNaru/NaruSasu ShiIta (ShisuiXItachi) and ZukAang just to name a few of them, but I haven't seen any feminizing. And if I did, it was few and far between. So much so that I don't actually remember it.
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Paper-Piper In reply to Worshiper-of-Sithis [2017-12-16 01:51:50 +0000 UTC]
-Dang, that sucks, mobile's a bitch sometimes
-It was never meant for gay or bi men, it was always meant to pander females, especially by adhering gender role stereotypes to the 'uke'. I don't even see how you never seen any of that, I mean its just plain pure bullshit.Β
-Look up Bara, and while you'll usually see a bunch of muscled men, bara is made FOR gay/bi guys, and usually by them too
-You clearly haven't been on it long enough then because otherwise you'd seen all this shit the yaoi fangirls pulled, unless you're not active in the subculture enough to notice anything
-I mean honestly, haven't you actually seen any of the yaoi that's on here?? For the more 'traditionalist' artists, the ukes are very easily mistaken for women, just with dicks.
-Fetish, fetishize, however its spelled.
-Please don't ever fucking equate an OPPRESSED MINORITY WITH A BODY PART. Β FEET are not stigmatized in media, FEET don't get stereotyped and harassed, my fuck what's wrong with you!?!?! Feet and gay men are not the fucking same.Β
How about I put it so you can understand??Β
Asians are very heavily fetishized, and get harassed every day. My friend is Vietnamese and she puts up with so much bullshit from people, and mistaken for 'easy and submissive' and a bunch of other gross sexual stereotypes.Β
Fetishization of sexualities and races are bad because it affects people in real lifeΒ
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Worshiper-of-Sithis In reply to Paper-Piper [2017-12-16 02:10:37 +0000 UTC]
I know yaoi's for females. Never said otherwise. And just to make sure you understand me, I have never seen people harassing real gay and bi people. I have now seen bara and I think I'll just stick with sbounen-ai; it's much more realistic and I like realism. I've been on the internet ever since I was a kid and we managed to save up enough to get it. I still haven't seen people harassing gay and bi people. I think I'm just on the wrong side of the web for that. All I did was compare one fetish to another. You're really easily angered and in need of anger management classes (I need them as well. I am constantly bashing computers in anger. In fact, I cracked my phone screen, I was so angry at what happened). Fetishes to do with race, sexuality, etc. only affect people who the person with the fetish harasses. Yes, there are people who harass and that's undoubtedly bad, however there are people with the fetish who keep to themselves and respect the types of people who they have a fetish of. I know one of those people who has a gay people fetish, but doesn't mention it to anyone and leaves real gay people alone.
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Paper-Piper In reply to Worshiper-of-Sithis [2017-12-16 02:42:06 +0000 UTC]
The majority of girls and women who enjoy yaoi are fetishizing it, and even shonen-ai falls into those tropes. The only difference is that it doesn't have sex, and how is it even realistic? The art sure isn't and I'm pretty sure the bara you've seen is the muscled kind and not the gay content made FOR gay and bi males, which from what I've read of it, is pretty much like shonen-ai, except without all the gendered tropes.Β
You're honestly bullshitting; if you're an active participate (or spectator) in the yaoi side of things, you had to have seen a ton of this, especially considering you're on DA. If you got a tumblr then you sure as heck is seeing this.Β
Don't tell me I need anger management classes, I manage just fine.Β
Fetishes are bad for EVERYONE of that demographic!! It's not just the one being harassed, it goes for all of them. You don't even think their issue is serious enough and you compared it to a foot fetish.Β
Yeah, you knew ONE, and those people are still toxic, and honestly y'all disgusting.Β
Yaoi, aka the stuff made FOR girls that fetishize mlm relationships, is bad, because its affected many people, even those guys who aren't gay and bi have suffered. Β
You're damn gross if you think fetishization of races and sexualities is okay. Β its never okay to be stereotyping and harassing people, which by the way if you actually were active in your little community you'll see a lot of, because as someone who knows of this bullshit from people reblogging my mlm art and my friend, its so common that people don't bat an eye at it.Β
There's even a yaoi fetishist on here who I've actually done art for before realizing just how shitty she was. Show me a decent person who fetishizes race and sexuality and I'll show you a donkey who can tapdance.Β
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