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Published: 2019-06-06 19:40:44 +0000 UTC; Views: 9827; Favourites: 350; Downloads: 27
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While I'm a massive fan of cartoony cartoons, I don't like when they pushed it on RGB. And it wasn't even done very well either. The cartoon versions of the characters strayed away from their original designs and (d)evolved Slimer into its ultimate level of annoyance. Even the Ghostbusters were often out off character and pushed away to make Slimer (and other new annoying characters)the star.
Also think RGB doesn't work well as a cartoony cartoon (unless it is a parody episode), since it has often serious moments which fans love. Even as a child I notice when things started to change and didn't like the later seasons. Feels like the people in charge for those changes don't understand what kids truly like. Kids are smarter than most people think and they do have good eyes for details.
This is how I would draw them. Let me know what you think!
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Honestly? This is all I could ever ask for in style terms if the show ever got rebooted. Each character has its own shape where you can see what the realistic approach to those features and body-types is and you can tell a lot about their body language and personality in one glance. It's simplistic enough that the off-model syndrome the show suffered of (Particularly in later seasons) would be less likely to happen but it's still visually rich and it could work in the more dramatic or spooky parts a Ghostbusters show should have.
I agree with you that the cartoony style they tried for the Slimer show was... less than ideal, let's say. To me it sort of felt like they watched some other cartoon that was big at the time and had that kind of style so they figured 'Hey, we can do it too! We're cool!'. It just feels like they could have done a better job but for whatever reason decided to slack off. It goes hand in hand with a lot of the changes made- it's like they figured 'This is a kids' show, we don't need to try THAT HARD' and the result was the sudden dip in quality in writing, animation, characterization- hell, I'd even argue in some parts the voice acting was lack-luster as if they'd been hurried through the takes because studio time is expensive.Β
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Bottom line is I think the quality this has looks professional and I would honestly love a show done like this.
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Thank you! 
As for this drawing; always like playing with sizes and the characters in the original show had it too, which is also why many people were upset when they chose to make Ray skinny.
Personally would not want a reboot of this show. Chances are too high it will be a failure. I'm more on board with a new show in the same universe, similar how EGB was.
My guess is they tried to copy other cartoony shows like Animanics, Tiny Toons, etc, especially since cartoony cartoons were popular in the early 90's. But sadly it didn't work for two reasons: Doesn't really work on RGB (especially since some of the (early) episodes were really dark) and it wasn't done very good either (and Bonus: focused on Slimer). Felt like the makers either didn't know what they wanted, or too many people tried to add their ideas in it and it spoiled the soup.
However the biggest mistake was to add parenting groups to the kitchen. Β Β
Wouldn't surprise me if the voice actors had enough too. Because many of the main cast, that worked on the early seasons, left once those changes started to happen.
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I agree with you about the over-cartoony-ness of the "Slimer!" segments of the show.Β
That said, I love your style here.Β Janine looks especially nice, haha!
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Awesome job, i love this so much because it brings me many childhood memories.
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An interesting style alternative! 
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You are welcome^^ i adore this cartoonish way to depict them. Great job!
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Slimer almost looks similar to his spin-off counterpart.
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This is too cute I used to watch the old Ghostbusters cartoon
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Thanks! Recently watched it again on Netflix and it still holds up!
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Yep that's Netflix give something great and then take it away especially only giving half a season
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I would totally watch RGB drawn this way, they look great like this (especially Janine 
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I agree wholeheartedly; it's sad because apparently the creators felt the same way and were really struggling to try and make it more "mature" while the suits were pushing for it to be lighter & softer. Of course the whole atmosphere around cartoons was very different back then. I'd love to see what a RGB cartoon could be like nowadays where networks are a lot more permissive.
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If I would reboot it I would keep it mostly the same (like in Season 1) but go for the more mature/darker way and maybe with an overall big storyline. Maybe something for Adult Swim or Netflix.
But my biggest worry of a modern reboot is the quality. RGB was animated in Japan and I love the tasteful anime feel the show often has. Modern cartoons are now done in Flash or Toonboom and the quality is often left to desire. :/ The problem isn't the animators, it is the lack of money and time. Clients now think since cartoons are now done digitally that everything is somehow easier and faster now. Good animation is expensive and time consuming, most clients don't like that.
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That's very true. Maybe it's because it is what I grew up on, but I really love that very subtle anime tinge to 80's cartoons - especially in the palettes and the animation of effects.Β I'm not even a big anime fan.
I feel like the problem is not so much that programs can't replicate the look, as much as people aren't interested in the look any more. I know it's anathema to suggest it, but shows really do glom on to styles - now funny shows all try to look like Steven Universe, and more serious shows all try to look like Avatar: the Last Airbender.Β Β For example the She-Ra reboot, which had perfectly fine if somewhat bland character design - you could almost tell when the animators were going to use "Stock Smug face #7" for a certain shot. No two people make faces the exact same way, and there are so many different ways to stylize an expression, it's boring to get the same bean mouth expressions to serve for every character. And this is a problem that isn't new, remember how thick line/blocky shapes was the rage after Dexter's Lab, and for a while there everyone was trying to be the new Ren & Stimpy. No one has ever wanted to give cartoons very much money - look at He-Man, all those merch sales were not reflected in the quality of the show's animation (although I think Filmation is unfairly maligned, they re-used animation but the animation itself was often quite nice, and a lot of the budget went to keeping the show animated in America rather than overseas).
Honestly tho, I think there's enough people my age who have nostalgia for that 80's style, and artists ARE capable of imitating it, that they could replicate it if they really wanted to. The only thing I'd really miss is Lorenzo Music as Peter!
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Lack of interests + lack of time and money.Β Animators are now expected to do miracle work for cheap. 
I certainly find that "Steven Universe" style (also known as Tumblr, Beanmouth or CalArts style) starts to irritate me. It now has gotten to a point where the internet makes fun of it. But one of the reasons why it is like that is because people hire each other and their art school friends. But to be fair, every decade has it's own distinctive style. You know exactly from what era a cartoon is when you see it (like you said with the R&S and Dexter examples).
As for the "same face" problem, it is also caused by low budgets. Artists build models in the program, do a list of different mouths, eyes, hands, etc which are often reused during animation. We technically look at the same drawings the whole time. Artwork that is done from scratch is rare, you mostly see it in action moments.
And many artists are too obsessed with style. Used to be like that too and most of my old art was really bad. Had to forget everything I learned and start from scratch. Fancy style won't make a nonfunctioning drawing look good. Even if a drawing looks super cartoony, it still follows the basic principals of art. A cartoony drawn human is essentially a caricature of a real human.
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I remember when the cartoon came out. I liked it, in general, because it was the Ghostbusters (also watched the other Ghostbusters toon as well), but I noticed how far off it was from the movie it was based on. I didn't really like that. I kinda hated that Slimer was just brought in asΒ mascot. I mean, I get why they did that, but it didn't make sense to me at the time. I watched all the eps, but wished that it could have been more of a resemblance of the movies.
That being said, I love your style. They look spot on to me.
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Thank you!
Noticed the changes too, but I watched the cartoons first before I saw the movies. I found it weird that the designs are so different, but I don't mind it. I think the reasons for those changes have something to do with copyrights and the actors. Especially Bill Murray can be a diva with that kind of stuff. He also was the one who demanded to change the voice actor for Peter. And Slimer only works in small dosages. He is became like a parrot that doesn't shut up.
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You're welcome.
I wondered if copyright or the actors had been the reason behind any of the changes. Seeing the movies 1st & then the cartoon was kinda of a shock wondering why they went the route they did. I couldn't understand why they were called The Real Ghostbusters until I stumbled across the other cartoon. I wondered which was actually 1st because I figured the movie group would have sued the pants off the cartoon group with the ghost lady, the ape, & the ghost car if they hadn't been trademarked 1st, but then that made me wonder how the Ghostbusters movie was made if the other toon came 1st.
Yeah, totally agree with you on Slimer's treatment, but then to make it Slimer & the Ghostbuster later on with Slimer as the lead, I had to quit watching that one. It was painful.
Didn't know Murry demanded the voice actor be changed. How weird.
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From what I heard is that Peter underwent the most changes. Which doesn't surprise me since Bill Murray is strange with that.
The thing with the two Ghostbusters is that ironically the one with the ape was there before the GB movies. It was originally a life action TV series in the 70's (I think). Then the GB movie was done and it was a huge success. But at the same time Filmation wanted to have a slice of that cake and decided to do a cartoon series based on the life action series. Roughly the same time they made a cartoon based on the GB movie, but because of legal rights they had to change it which is why it's called "the Real Ghostbusters". This explains it better than I can do: toysfromthepast.blogspot.com/2β¦
But I remember how confused I was as kid when my dad brought home the Filmation GB VHSs. It felt like a parallel universe GB. Still enjoyed it for it's strangeness.
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Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
Edit: That was strange. I was 2 when the original live action show came out. I don't remember it at all & I didn't realize the cartoon was a continuation of it. That was a pretty neat story about the lawsuit & the name change. I was surprised at the Filmation Ghostbusters opting to go with the children of the original show, but it was a neat idea.
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I do like both versions, but RGB is my favourite!
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Β Β Isn't this based on the Slimer and the Real Ghostbusters version that came out after the third season?
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My drawing is based of that. Tried to draw it how I would draw it, but I used the designs of the first season.
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Β Wait, that cartoony version had it's own seasons?
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Janine still looks fiiiiiine
your style is fantastic
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Thank you! Happy to hear that!
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You're welcome! I'm a big fan of The Ghost Busters, the movie and the cartoon. ππ»
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I watched this one at high school, along with Duckula, this was my top toon of my youth.
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We had great shows when we grew up. Used to watch it as kid with with my younger sister after school. And it still holds up up!
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Indeed...And please forgive my forgetting to say how amazing your art is here!
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RGB is a cartoon that was never decided if it was for children or young adults, they used it mainly to sell toys,Β and that was a shame.Β That's why I personally like more EGB,Β It's not perfect, I know, and many hate it without reason, but I like it.
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EGB was amazing as well! Sadly very underrated. Also wish it had more episodes.
The client most likely wanted it for kids and selling toys, but the people that worked on it (early season) had fun and knew what kids really liked. Until angry parents complained. :/
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I forgot it! but you already know,
I love your work!
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Personally, I am pretty sure that "Consulting" as a business is a scam, and I'm unaware of any business who have changed as a result of recommendations by "consultants" where the changes had positive results.Β The "consultants" brought in to fix a cartoon that wasn't broken (The Real Ghostbusters) really fucked everything up.
Your cartoony version here has spirit and personality. Nice
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Thank you! From what I heard it was caused by parenting groups. Mombies ruining fun since day one. When the rates went down and more popular cartoons showed up, they tried to "rescue" it by adding gimmicks (like fancy gear, TMNT rip off characters, etc) and then eventually killing it off by making it cartoony.
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Ah, parenting groups.Β One of the things that makes me smile today is the thought that a lot of people who were up in arms about cartoons in the 80s are DEAD now. May they rot in the pit.
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But unfortunately we now have a new generation of those joyless people that continue ruining the fun. :/ Sadly, a cartoon series like RGB wouldn't fly anymore today.
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