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If only Leto wasn't a cock. Ah well... the music is still great at least.
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I don't follow so no idea how exactly he is one (apart from the way some fan activities are run), but feel free to enlighten me.
Yep, the last album was pretty good.
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[x ] (scroll to #13) [x ] [x ] (yes I know Perez Hilton is a piece of shit but the videos posted are proof) [x ] (personal experience thing but a lot of fans have already said this has happened to them too) [x ]
And the one that tops his shit-icing'd cake: [x ] To sum it up: He defended Piers for misgendering a transwoman, making fun of her, and then not apologizing when people called him out. And Leto thinks he knows what it's like to be a transwoman because he played one in a movie, instead of, y'know... an ACTUAL transwoman. But because he played one in a movie, he is all wise on what transwomen go through. /sarcasm
He's a personified piece of shit and he's almost as bad as Ronnie Radke. In fact, if he keeps it up, he'll be worse, because at least Radke is TRYING to be a responsible adult now that he has a kid. (Doesn't excuse the fact that he ended up killing someone and beat his girlfriend, but at least he's trying to be a better person now.) I just really hate him. The album, I like. Him... I do not. If he were to choke and die on his own spit I'd only be sad because no more 30StM (though maybe they could borrow the lead singer of Muse since his voice is gorgeous and he could probably sing it better anyways).
//endrant
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Forgot to comment about the part where he acted bratty at a show though. That one's legit. Varies from time to time but this is something I have seen.
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I mean, I get band members getting pissy -- especially if their fans get rude about their personal lives (i.e. when Gerard gets pissed at fans for bringing up "frerard" and "omg kiss Frankie~!11!!!!!!!!1!" after he's asked MULTIPLE times for people not to do it, because he's married, has a kid, and it's made things between him and his former best friend really awkward). They're human and they have bad days. But taking it out on fans constantly, well, that's just being a dick in my opinion.
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Okay, I'm an old fart. What is frerard all about?
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Gerard Way x Frank Iero. Because they'd stage gay all the time back during Sweet Revenge and stuff, and so people were convinced they were boyfriends, but they ended up getting married (Gerard married Lindsey "LynZ" Ballato from Mindless Self Indulgence, and Frank married Jamia Nestor) and having kids. Fans still harass them about "WAS IT REAL" "WERE YOU GUYS IN LOVE" "DID YOU DO IT" "WHY DIDN'T YOU GUYS GET MARRIED" blah blah blah, and both have expressed disdain to these questions, stating they're happily married with kids, and that it's the past. Gerard moreso than Frank, but still. But the "pairing name" for all that is "frerard". People will draw art of it, write fanfiction of it, etc., and I don't condone it as long as they don't shove it towards the members (because wow that'd be awkward to read), but MCR fans get a bad name from people who continuously harass Way and Iero on the subject. They'll try and make them read fanfiction and shit, along with the awkward questions stated earlier, and so it's more of a dirty word to the bandom than a pairing name.
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Stage gay? Like what did they do exactly? I started listening to MCR only once Welcome To The Black Parade was out and I didn't quite follow the band even then, it was just about the music for me.
Oh jeez. Pairings. It's annoying enough when people pull those nonexistent shippings out of their ass and do it to fictional characters, but writing fanfic about real people? I'd condone this even if they don't push it towards the band. Vanity searching still exists. Their kids might come across that stuff when they start using the net, too.
The ones that send it to the band to read when specifically asked not to deserve to be sent to a 30STM moshpit
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So who's Charlie Shaw? I mean, is it a credible person or someone on the Internet who could have said anything about anyone? Same goes for the second link.
The attacks fan with microphone video does not exist 
The Kurt thing... I love Nirvana and I like Jared's video. Don't see a problem with playing dressup. Some people make money by dressing as Elvis and performing in Vegas and that's no big deal either.
The transgender thing. I fail to see what he did that counts as douchy. From what the article says he handled the situation nicely. Where exactly did he misgender and make fun of a transwoman? And where did he say he knows what it's like to be one? And what exactly do you mean by him being all wise on what transwomen go through?
I don't know who Radke is, sorry. You'll have to enlighten me on that, too.
To sum things up, what we have so far is a number of unverified posts on the internet (if they get verified though that stuff is pretty disgusting, yes), a Kurt Cobain impersonation which doesn't say anything about Jared as a person and transgender people demanding an apology for... did I understand it correctly, playing a transgender woman while not being transgender? If that's the case I don't think an actor accepting a role in a movie is a douche.
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Dressing up as a person and making a video to "memorialize" them on the day of their death is disgusting, honestly, and fucked up. People impersonate Elvis on a daily basis as a career. He also didn't follow through an extremely depressing life, and didn't, y'know... blow his brains out. He didn't die a tragic death like Cobain. A death too soon, yes, but he didn't take his own life. I have no respect for people who impersonate those who took their life as an entertainment to others (aside MAYBE a biographical movie or something) -- let their fucking restless souls rest already, for the love of God. Was it necessary for him to "impersonate" Cobain? It almost looks like a joke, not a way of showing respect. Covering a song is fine -- the whole "pretending" to be him is offensive and kind of creepy honestly.
The transgender thing is what pisses me off the most -- in the whole Twitter conversation (I'll have to find all the tweets and if it comes down to it I'll do that) -- Piers Morgan is the one who misgendered and insulted a transwoman. People pointed it out, Piers brushed it off as "insignificant", and people got pissed. They told him to apologize because misgender is rude as fuck, especially when you do it on purpose. Piers then began telling people to "fuck off", continued making fun of her, and within this drama, Leto tweeted Piers saying he was on his side, and that everyone was "overreacting" because "it's not that bad". And as someone's who trans, being misgendered ON PURPOSE is insulting, hurtful, and can trigger continuing dysphoria. And for Leto to support Piers HARASSING a transwoman is unacceptable and he can suck a dick. Plus, if they want the accuracy, then Hollywood should maybe hire an ACTUAL transgender, because, y'know... how many famous trans actors and actresses are there compared to non-trans? Next to none. And turning down a role and saying "No, an actual transwoman should play this part" is commendable. But nope, money matters more.
Radke... I just won't even get into that. It was just a comparison. He's just an asshole, really.
As for all the accounts of Jared being a douche to fans, one or two claims is probably not enough verification. However, hundreds is a little more than coincidence, don't you think?
The girl, well... what proof could you tell police if everyone's on stage and swarming around? And using bruises as proof when you were in the mosh pit isn't enough either, seeing how it's the mosh pit. It's a bit hard to prove that, but other fans have also told accounts of Leto 1) sexually harassing them (if they're female), 2) verbally insulting them, and / or 3) actually physically harming them in some sort of fashion, whether it's a slap or punch or hitting them with something, etc.. There's way too many accounts from fans for it to be coincidence. And I mean... if someone loves a band, why would they want to make one of the band members look bad? If you like a band, you want to look up to the members; liking a band but disliking the members is conflicting. I like 30StM but I don't like to talk about it because Leto is a cock, and people usually assume liking the music = liking the members.
You can Google "Jared Leto is a douche" and come off with a whole bunch of accounts of fans, videos, etc. (in fact if you Google "Jared Leto is", the first results are "Jared Leto is a jerk" and ""Jared Leto is a douche" which I personally find amusing). If hundreds of people can't stand him... there's probably a reason behind it.
(Also sorry that was a super long reply)
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Sure. And this guy is an actor so dressing up and acting like someone else is part of his career. It would be creepy if I saw a hardcore Nirvana fan who believes he's Kurt doing that sort of thing. When it's a professional actor though I see the whole thing in a very different light. Whether Jared did a good job with the song or not is a thing of taste (imo not bad at all) but it doesn't make him a douche. As an actor impersonating Cobain would be pretty much what you'd expect him to do if he wanted to pay tribute, no?
Ok, there you already have a point with the Twitter conversation. I'd have to see the whole thing to judge though, so I am not saying anything. But the part about hiring an actual transwoman to play a transwoman... technically, good idea. Did they try any good transgender actresses for the role who would have definitely done well in the movie but dumped them in favor of Jared Leto? If they did that is unfair as hell but it's rather the director and producer and whoever does the casting that should recieve the backlash, not the actor who gets the role. Because if you're implying they should have just pulled a transgender person off the street to act in the film it doesn't make sense. Being transgender does not guarantee you'll be good for the role of a transgender person if you don't have solid acting skills. So, which transgender actress was considered before Jared snatched her role?
I haven't seen hundreds though, just the two you linked. And once again about the fan accounts, while you have a point about it being impossible to prove anything about punching because of moshpits, the sexual harrasment or physical hurting outside of the gig is fairly easy to report. Why isn't just one of those hundreds fans reporting anything? Even if we are talking about hundreds of accounts, it's the Internet. 5 people with a lot of time on their hands could be behind all the reports. You just learn to not trust everything you see out there unless there's proof. Why would someone want to make a band member look bad if they love a band? For one thing if you're a teen with rushing hormones and the band member looks at you the wrong way during a meet and greet that can be enough. So until I see something more substantial than random Internet posts about this whole business I'd take things with a grain of salt. I don't feel like hunting for fan videos but if you come across any that prove those accounts feel free to PM it to me. I'd watch.
Btw, if you google pretty much any celebrity with XX is... the first result will always be ''XX is a jerk'' or ''XX is a douche''. I just tried it with ten random actors, worked like a charm. Well, except for the ladies. For them it's usually ''XX is ugly''.
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Very nicely spotted, iconic I would even say. And cool black and white. Happy sigh.
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Thanks, I actually like this one a lot. Even though it's a bit of a weird pic.
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