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Gonzale In reply to davedou [2008-11-03 15:30:59 +0000 UTC]

you sound like an angry boy. useless comment though i'd have to say.

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davedou In reply to Gonzale [2008-11-03 16:04:19 +0000 UTC]

its actually a modified quote from the tv show a band of brothers, shouted by an american soldier, at a bunch of nazi prisoners

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Gonzale In reply to davedou [2008-11-03 17:24:14 +0000 UTC]

then i guess modifying quotes makes them worthless ? and i mean, comparing protibet people to nazis is just plain retarded.

you're more useless than the pro tibet rallies thats for sure. i mean, what effect do you think your words have ? do you think it makes people think ? or do you think people even bother reading you? i read you because you were in my message center, but come on, you're just a nobody. just a bitter guy getting angry on the internet. and that's pretty pathetic.

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davedou In reply to Gonzale [2008-11-03 17:35:39 +0000 UTC]

well himmler said that he admired the dalais control over the peolpe. and daliar only dared declare independence when we chinese were being massaceed by the japanese in 1938. where were the cries for human rights there. any way. america tried to get military aid flights into china to help the resistence against the japanese, but daliar lama refused saying he didnt want to get nvolved. so dalai lama is complicit in genocide against the chinese by the japanese
and do you think attacking a one legged wheelchiar using torc bearer and her blind usher is admirable? youre the pathetic ones

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Gonzale In reply to davedou [2008-11-03 18:03:52 +0000 UTC]

... tibet doesnt have an army, how would you expect them to help in a war ?

and you're calling one guy pathetic, only him attacked that poor girl. please don't make generalities, it's a proof of narrow-mindedness.

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davedou In reply to Gonzale [2008-11-03 20:10:59 +0000 UTC]

and the rest of the free tibet mob just threw rocks at her and her blind pusher.
im saying he could have allowed military supply flights over china
and where were th japan out of china protests during the rape of nanjing. hell it got so bad a nazi official in nanjing actually wrote a letter to hitler, who had to tell the imperial army to stop the massacre

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Gonzale In reply to davedou [2008-11-03 23:03:01 +0000 UTC]

i can't believe you're seriously blaming the tibetans for not sending military supply (they're a peaceful people, and they didn't have any trained soldiers) when the actual situation there was far more complicated than that, you can blame a lot of other people here, the occident (UK, France, USA ?)
it's not a couple of untrained tibetans that wouldve helped in any case.

where have you read the hitler-telling-imperial-army-to-stop thing ?

of course it was a terrible thing that happened in china, worse than hiroshima-nagasaki some say, but stop being ridiculous blaming the tibetans for that, history wouldnt have been different at all.

and for the olympics thing, i din't see rocks thrown at her.

in any case, you're putting a lot of effort in what seems to be the wrong fight. save your energy for something else like, lets say, actually DO things instead of being grumpy and angry.

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davedou In reply to Gonzale [2008-11-03 23:14:11 +0000 UTC]

wikipedia. so i guess its disreputable in a way. the rock throwing was mentioned in the times news paper and from jing jings(the torch bearer) account. free tibet people even hired mobs. and they had the affront to protest outside the chinese embassy when chinese students who finally had enough in seoul threw things at them.
for the military planes thing, tibet didnt have to do anything. dalai lama could have just allowed the americans and that would have been that. its just that tibet only declared independence when china was at its lowest point would have been offensive enough in the 50s.
i also find it hilarious how the west thinks of tibet as this mythical kingdom where superhuman monks go about there business of ehtereal pursuits.
also, youre the first pro tibet person ivetalked to who didnt break into a tirade of swear words(or racial slurs if theyre white) after ive made my points.

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Gonzale In reply to davedou [2008-11-03 23:55:44 +0000 UTC]

well, you're the "x"th person anti-tibet who tries to make his point by using insults. so... i don't know what to say to you.

tibet and china have a complicated relation which history is very, very old. wikipedia is at least good for one thing : it presents all the versions of history.

it is known that persons and more generally countries adapt stories and history to their advantage. a japanese kid or even grown up person will tell you that nanjin was only a small detail and that the number of deaths is a lie. same will go for a neo nazi who will deny the deaths of jews in concentration camps. etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
where you got me wrong, is that i'm not really taking sides here. i don't believe i'm able to take sides when i consider the global history of a place, in this case, tibet.
the reason why i was on the pro-free-tibet side here, was because china is somewhat violent towards this people.
but really i can't judge this thing globally.

when i say you are wasting your energy, i really mean it. having strong opinions like that never helped anyone. it blinds you.

during the pro/anti-tibet events, i was asking questions to a chinese woman, just questions, not taking sides, to know what was her point of view. and then she spits at me and calls me a whore. i try with another guy, an he shouts at me and insults me.
and then a pro-tibet guy arrives (french) and begins shouting at some chinese people who were shouting as well and they shouted at each other for ever and i left. everyone wasting their energy. sad.

what surprises me is that you're still "in it". actually i'm interested in that. what makes you being so ... implicated ? even today, a few months after the olymics games and many months after the flame thing. today we're used to people jumping from one event to the other, zapping, caring for georgians under attack, and then nobody hears of it anymore and nobody asks... Going from one hot topic to the other...
what makes you stay on that one ?

sorry, as it's getting late here my english is getting bad.

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davedou In reply to Gonzale [2008-11-04 01:02:54 +0000 UTC]

well i guess youre right there .it is easy to see red on both sides. bygones now. game over etc good bye to

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Gonzale In reply to biumbiumbambalo [2008-07-24 17:31:46 +0000 UTC]

it's better than nothing, mhm.

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Gonzale In reply to MovE1 [2008-05-16 06:56:24 +0000 UTC]

oui j'ai entendu cette histoire mais bon ça me choque pas tant que ça, une usine reste une usine, chinoise ou pas

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MovE1 In reply to Gonzale [2008-05-19 15:20:08 +0000 UTC]

Tout a fait d'accord ! communiste ou pas faut bien faire du profit ahahah.

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Gonzale In reply to rkenji [2008-04-12 12:52:47 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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Gonzale In reply to wuxuanzhang [2008-04-10 18:15:25 +0000 UTC]

i don't understand chinese, could you please write in english ?

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Gonzale In reply to stainit [2008-04-09 16:12:58 +0000 UTC]

yes !

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