Obiwanlives4ever In reply to GreenwavesInactive [2014-05-05 18:05:10 +0000 UTC]
All right, here I am to FINALLY respond to this picture. I’m sorry it’s taken so long; I had four finals to study for (which I’m finally finished) and every time I looked at this picture I remembered the long comment I’d typed up and got frustrated. But now I’m writing this on Microsoft Word, so even if my internet glitches, it’ll be saved, haha.
First of all, I have to comment on just how lovely this whole thing looks. The design is wonderful, from the soft swirly background to the different shapes you’ve used for each sibling relationship. It’s just a great layout. I admit, I didn’t care all that much about MMD before I saw your works; I didn’t have anything against it, of course, but I just didn’t really think it could be used to create such beautiful pictures. You proved me wrong.
I’m glad that you chose the relationships you did, because to be honest, most of them are ones I don’t really give much thought to. I always love reading people’s opinions on things I don’t really have opinions on, so I can start forming one of my own.
All right, first of all, China and Hong Kong. As I’ve said many times, not knowing much about Asian history, the Asian family isn’t one I think about a lot. When I do, I just normally imagine it as a big conglomerate of siblings; I don’t give much attention to individual relationships. However, I’m certainly not surprised you put a China relationship in here, though I will admit I’d been thinking it would be China and Japan. Now, before I took my History of China course, I figured the sibling bonds between China and his fellow nations would be rather strained, on a similar level to or perhaps even moreso than that of America and England. This was because I assumed that China had oppressed these nations in the past, due to its current dictatorial government. However, I remember learning that during the Qing dynasty at least, China’s ‘rule’ over many countries like Korea and Vietnam was mostly symbolic; their rulers had to pay tribute to the Chinese Emperor, but other than that the Chinese would mostly leave them in peace, and even defend the authority of these countries’ rulers. That’s probably an oversimplification of their relationships, and I know they have been soured by more recent things like the Vietnam War, but it still made me see things in a different light. I feel like Hong Kong would have really missed China during their separation (I’m imagining he was quite young, like 6-10, at the Treaty of Nanking itself). I actually haven’t read any of the strips about China and Hong Kong apart from the Christmas episode, so I’m not familiar with most of this stuff you’re mentioning. I wasn’t aware Hong Kong had such a soft spot for China; I just figured he saw him as kind of annoying, and didn’t realize he’d conceded to stay with him to make him happy. But I remember some sort of treaty from my history class, in which China promised the British it would not impose communism on Hong Kong (maybe? It’s been a while, so don’t quote me on this) and I can see that as APH China sort of respecting Hong Kong’s relative independence and realizing that he’s not the same totally dependent little boy he last left. Not that he still isn’t motherly and overbearing, of course!
The Italy and Romano relationship is another one I don’t focus on that much, I guess because they do quarrel a lot. But you have a really good point about them both being the same country, and therefore sharing something few other siblings do. I never thought about that. I also normally just saw Romano as being jealous of Veneziano, but the way you put it shows things in a different light – his enviousness of his brother reveals how highly he thinks of him; he would do anything just to be like Veneziano. And he is clearly protective of Italy, as you say, and resentful of the fact that Veneziano spends more time with Germany, since he doesn’t want any competition for Veneziano’s affections for himself. And the moment when he asked Veneziano to praise him like Germany was pretty sad! I think there’s a similar one in one of their character songs (can’t remember which; I think either Romano’s Hatafutte Parade or his Mawaru Chikyuu Rondo) where Romano asks Veneziano if he likes his tambourine playing (or something) and Veneziano just says “veh,” which prompts Romano to fly into a rage, because he didn’t get the attention and approval he desperately craves from his little brother. Another good point you make is how Veneziano is never fazed by Romano’s antics; he always has the patience to put up with him no matter how irritating he may become.
Germany and Prussia is yet another one I don’t think of that much, but more so than the other two. I don’t really agree with the headcanon that Prussia is dying, but I will acknowledge that it makes their relationship and Prussia’s characterization a lot more tragic and complex. (I also agree with you that Germany = HRE; there’s just so much evidence in favor of this theory and it makes sense historically). Their relationship does seem very genuinely brotherly, what with all their teasing and messing around with each other (mostly on Prussia’s behalf). For example, I really, really like the scene in Beautiful World where they’re infiltrating an American camp, and Germany has to act like an American, for which Prussia makes fun of him. That just seemed like something two real brothers would do. Another thing that really stands out to me about the Germany and Prussia relationship is that Prussia is never, not once, resentful towards Germany for ‘replacing’ him as a nation. Whether or not we think he’s dying, we can both agree that Prussia places a huge amount of importance on his nationhood. I think that the dissolution affected him a lot more than he’ll let on, and he truly feels insecure and almost violated because he’s been stripped of his status and, more importantly, his strong connection with his people and culture, like they are his lifeblood. All that belongs to Germany now. But Prussia is never anything but 100% proud and supportive of his little brother, despite the fact that he could be totally consumed by bitterness and jealousy. I think that reveals he does have a good heart beneath all the craziness and arrogance.
Switzerland and Liechtenstein are probably my favorite sibling relationship because they’re probably the only one that doesn’t seem to have any sort of tension between them. They never fight or even bicker; they’ve never had to go to war against each other. Granted, this is probably because of the neutrality of both countries and the newness of their relations (they only seem to have met after WWI in canon, so they haven’t had hundreds of years in which wars and strife could have taken place) but I also think it’s because of the strength of their love for each other. They’re just so perfect. Liechtenstein really brings out the best in Switzerland; as you say, he’s not the type of person one would think would willingly take a stranger into his home when he himself is already struggling, but he did. And he never holds it over her, never reminds her she should be grateful he did what he did, never acts like she ‘owes’ him something – in fact, he’s reluctant to discuss why he took her in because he doesn’t want her to think he’s just trying to be some hero. I think Switzerland also gives Liechtenstein something to fight for, so she makes herself more responsible and strong-willed (as seen in her checking out his munitions supply and confronting him about it herself, rather than just assuming he’s strong enough to protect her, in one of the BW extra episodes).
Norway and Iceland are two I think about more often than the rest; they’d probably be in or close to my top 5 sibling relationships in Hetalia. I think on Iceland’s page on Hetalia Wiki, it says that he considers Norway the “home where his heart is” or something, so he does definitely care about him. I always took his irritation over the “onii-chan” thing to stem from the fact that “onii-chan” is apparently the sort of thing a little kid would call their older brother, and Iceland doesn’t like being treated like a child. I do
n’t think it’s because he dislikes Norway or their sibling relationship at all.
I’ve already sent you a long thing about Russia and Ukraine, so I don’t know what else there is for me to say about this, but I have to point out one thing you wrote- “It’s obvious that the three of them really and truly want to be a happy family, they just truly don’t have any idea how to do that.” That sums up EXACTLY how I see these three. They love each other dearly and want more than anything to be a close-knit family, but their status as nations and the war, violence and betrayal that has stemmed from that make it exceedingly difficult to do so. I also see Belarus as having always been super protective of and obsessed with Russia, even before she fell for him, and Russia as denying the existence some of the crueller aspects of Soviet Rule because he can’t bear to admit to himself that he hurt his sisters.
Yeah, England and America really need no explanation; they’re just the quintessential always-bickering-but-really-do-care-about-each-other brothers. I actually see them as being fairly close in modern day; sure, the Revolutionary War was a big thing, but I don’t think there’s any real animosity between the countries today, just harmless joking and teasing back and forth. The bickering still exists, but they just do it because it’s habitual and fun now, not because they actually feel a driving urge to constantly one-up the other. Besides, they’ve sided with each other throughout pretty much every massive war in the 20th century, they were Cold War allies, they usually back each other in times of controversy … I just have a hard time seeing them as actually bitter against each other nowadays, especially since basically all of Britain’s colonies left him, so America’s so-called ‘betrayal’ doesn’t stand alone. I agree with you that their relationship ‘grew’; when America was little, he looked up to England and saw him almost as a parent, while England was very much in charge of providing for the young boy. However, now, I think that they both recognize that the other has changed irreversibly since the colonial days, and that they can’t by any means duplicate the relationship they once had, but that doesn’t mean they still can’t have a new one, as equals and comrades.
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