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Published: 2014-01-19 05:12:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 1064; Favourites: 36; Downloads: 0
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I've recently watched this documentary called, Blackfish, and I've realized it's time to make SeaWorld whale and dolphin shows a thing of the past! I recommend you watch the documentary! -> www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OEjYq…Please help save the whales from captivity!! Spread the word!
Here's a petition to release Tilikum (the whale mainly talked about in the film)- www.change.org/petitions/seawo…
Here's a website where you can learn more about the other whales in captivity and ones in the wild- www.savethewhales.org/captivit…
Please contact me if you have any more ways of helping the whales!
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Fuck SeaWorld. Everyone there is an oxygen thief.
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pssst - you should probably change "Whales" to "Orcas" because Killer Wahle are actually considered part of the dolphin family! uvu
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First of all, there is but a tiny shred of truth in Blackfish. As someone who know a helluva lot about orcas, I can tell you that most of it is complete crap.
Second, don't release Tilikum. It would kill the big guy; he was only ever in the wild for three years, and that was 30 years ago. He wouldn't be able to function properly, integrate successfully into the wild population, and he would die of infection due to his drilled teeth.
If you would like to know more about captivity, I would recommend readin the book Death at SeaWorld by David Kirby. Its still pretty hokey, but anything is better than Blackfish.
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How is there no truth in it? And yeah releasing the orcas probably would kill them, but I don't think anymore should be bred or brought in to captivity. It's obvious to me that it's a boring, unrealistic life for them.
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They either outright lie or say misleading things through the entire movie. Lifespan, social structure....they lie about incidents with the whales, they lie about deaths, they ironically lie about how much lies SeaWorld tells, they give the most screen time to a trainer that only worked with the orcas for two years, they didn't utilize their pro-captivity sources....so many things. Only a tiny sliver of that movie is accurate.
Mm. That's an opinion that I disagree with, but I can respect it. All I can say is, what about other zoo animals? Trust me, after doing research, I have found that many zol animals have similar issues. Or what about pets? Pets, especially highly intelligent pets like parrots, almost always lead more boring, unnatural lives than SeaWorld's killer whales.
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Well of course I don't like zoos either.. Especially how they keep monkies there.. ): I agree about the parrots too. I don't think people should own them, they usually end up sitting in a cage. My friend actually worked at a home daycare and the owner owned a parrot pretty much to add to the feel of the daycare. She had the cage welded shut so he'll be sitting there for the rest of his 80 years of life or so. I guess she'll have to unweld it to get rid of the thing eventually, who's going to keep a parrot that long?
But, anyways, how can there be no attacks at Seaworld? I've even seen videos of whales hurting each other and being aggressive. Which makes sense because they're such social creatures and don't have a pack to travel, play and vocalize with. They are probably very frustrated. Is it that they just stretched the truth because now that I think about it, didn't they show film of each attack in the movie? Besides the one at Sealand in the very beginning and the one of Dawn at the very end.
And if you go to the Seaworld's website it's easy to spot things that aren't fully true. Like how they say We give such excellent dental care to our orcas! Flushing their teeth up to 10 times a day! (However the amount is, I forget) But they only do that because they've drilled their teeth down and as a result have to spray their teeth every so often to keep them clean.
They seem to want to glorify the shit out of their Orca care program when it's not even that great. I'm not saying captivity is horrible for them. They get fed, they do get some stimulation through training, they have a human companion, maybe some orcas do get along, idk, they can usually be treated by vets when sick (Although from the list of all captive orcas it seems a good amount have died pretty young from diseases) But over all it's a poor life for them, and for what, money? They want to swim the seas, hunt for prey, live in a pod, teach their young, play, socialize and rub their bellies on the sand!
I can't really find any real useful research that has come from these captive orcas. The discoveries on their website are pretty lame. Like they discovered the sleeping patterns of orcas, I think? Who cares? lol. If researchers really wanted to know that they would spend time tracking them in the ocean to find out. And it's probably more useful (or at least more interesting) to know how orcas in the wild sleep.
Sorry that was so long. 
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Not supporting zoos=not supporting conservation.
Having pets=having wild animals in zoos.
Its really hard for anyone to say they absolutely don't like any zoos. :3
I didn't say they never get hurt, I'm just pointing out some things that Blackfish lies about.
Some really good studies can come from captivity, like respiration, cognitive, reproductive, digestive, and anotomical information that can't be obtained in the wild. SW could improve on that, for sure.
The only really untrue thing on the website is the dorsal fin percentage. The dental care they get is probably the best in captivity, so...
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ok wait. Cats and dogs were specifically bred to be the way they are by humans. They weren't just found in the wild. They're like corn. Honestly, making cats and dogs was a mistake. I actually want to be a veterinarian so I can help fix unwanted pets/strays. I would never just get a pet. All of my pets have come from people who were going to take there ex pets to the pound. Well one is a stray cat that kept having kittens. Anyways, having pets equaling wild animals doesn't make sense. Those are different things, it's almost like a distraction.
But thank you for pointing out that the movie isn't 100%. It's definitely something for me to look into. I've heard the time line in it is wrong but that's all I've been told up til now. Also I'm going to change the stamp description and title because it does sound very spazzish lol. I don't think I'll ever agree with captivity though. I've only been to a zoo once, last year, and to me it was a depressing endeavor ... Maybe that's what really set me against captivity. I wasn't always against it. I guess I never even thought about it too much until then lol.
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Alright, I understand that view.
Thank you for listening! I don't care if you're anti-captivity. I just don't want any "ermagherd blackfish is five bajillion percent truff" stuff floating around.
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But pets are something completely different than orcas. Orcas tend to be way more intelligent and bored quite a bit faster because in the tanks SeaWorld has there is just nothing for them to do. There are no rocks or kelp to play with and they are completely dependent on human beings for their own stimulation and food. Whereas in the wild they can choose where they want to go to, they can feed whenever they are hungry (and they sure aren't always successful in hunting but it's still the fact that they can choose) and they always find something to do. Also, there are so many other ways of teaching people about the environment and animals than keeping them captive and letting them perform silly tricks (some of them natural and some of them not).
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Not parrots. Parrots are actually MORE intelligent, or appear to be, as they have language comprehension and math skills that orcas haven't shown.
And SW orcas get quite a bit of enrichment every day and are always able to socialize with other whales. The average dog is kept as the only dog in the house, and is often locked up in a small room or crate for eight hours a day while its master goes to work.
And then, many other zoo animals have very similar issues. The astounding intelligence of a killer whale is not to be forgotten, but...hlw does intelligence make anything less abusive? If altering an animals natural social structure, giving them a fraction of the space they have in the wild, and many other things counts as "abuse" for a dolphin, why not for a wolf? Or a tiger? And then, if you realise the connection, but say you don't support zoos....well, despite their problems, zoo animals do very well! I believe that, with continued facility improvement, SeaWorld orcas and other captive dolphins can thrive just as much as other captives. In fact, bottlenose dolphins do quite well in captivity, amd live as long or longer than their wild counterparts. When cared for correctly, parrots can do well in captivity.
As for the education bit...I agree that SW needs to be more educational. I support shows, because they are extremely enriching, apparently enjoyable, and good exercise for the whales. HOWEVER instead of playing loud music, they could make it more educational. The Indianapolis Zoo, for example, has a bottlenose dolphin show. Instead of making it all show business, or all education, tehy meet in the happy middle. The show has a few segments with high-energy behaviors, done to music, but then the other large part of the show is educational. They usually talk about how dolphins are mammals, what sets them apart from fish, some stuff about how they live in the wild, how they ID them at the zoo, they actually introduce you to the dolphins as individuals...all kinds of neat stuff. And they always make some environmental stance, like talking about how we need to keep the oceans from being polluted. Its showy enough that the audience is interested, but educational enough that its...well, educational! If SeaWorld could be more like that, id be very happy.
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Well, often the intelligence level of an animal and how it processes things is a great indication for how animals do in the wild and in captivity. In this case it took SeaWorld and other marine park facilities about 50 years to get an environment for dolphins and whales where they live almost as long as the wild population, but most are still quite a bit below the average. I know it takes time to find out how to keep animals in proper conditions in captivity and making sure that they're as happy as they can be but fifty years is a long time and they're still quite a bit away before orcas in particular it seems will do well in captivity.
As for shows, I agree with the more education part. I've searched around on YouTube to find the shows and study them carefully and there is hardly any education in it, which is quite sad for a facility that claims to educate the public through their shows etc. But so far I haven't really seen that much education at SeaWorld's parks nor at any other except for an occasional few that seem to have quite the natural living space they can provide without harming the animals.
As for other animals - I'm still a bit wonky on certain animals. Some animals do actually quite well in captivity for what I have seen and read. That doesn't mean I don't care about them, best would be for the animals to be in the wild and for us humans to observe and study them from the wild and not from a captive environment.
Also, not all parrots are that intelligent - I've kept parrots along the years and I've had a few smart ones and other ones that were dumber than my dog (unless it pretended to be like that which I doubt). That said, as long as animals are cared well for and you can prove that they're living healthy, good lives and they get enough enrichment and have quite a big space to move around (sanctuaries seem to keep animals quite in a good manner (again not all but I've heard and read of a few that seem to be doing very, very well and better than any zoo)) than it's quite alright. Abuse should never be tolerated, no matter what animal.
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Well, you seem quite well informed. (:
Yep, as long as we keep improving, I fully expect to see orcas living longer and longer in captivity. SeaWorld has quite a bit to improve, but overall they're a good, well-managed facility. Hopefully they will become more educational in the near future.
As with the parrots...maybe not all orcas are that smart? Hey, there are even dumb humans too!
I definitely support zoos, I have found that their animals are extremely content when well-cared for. I'm glad that you are willing to see that perhaps cetaceans aren't the only ones facing issues, not a lot of people are like that.
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Haha, thank you. You seem quite well informed too. C:
SeaWorld indeed has a lot to improve but in general they do seem to be one of the better facilities that keep cetaceans, but there are still a lot of flaws they need to improve on, especially regarding the wellbeing of cetaceans.
As for parrots, yeah, I bet there are an occasional not that smart orcas xD And humans... Most of them are either average or dumb.
I do support zoos, but like I said they need to provide proper conditions and health care etc. I will never tolerate any abuse to any animal no matter how dumb, smart etc it is. All animals are important and each animal should have their rights established.
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Thanks. (:
Agreed.
Hahaha! Especially here in 'Murica, our education sucks altogether. All of our children are morons.
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Ah, here in the Netherlands the education is quite alright. Not everyone is smart but you've got to have some dumb people every once in a while.
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Yep.
All American students wanna do is drugs and try to have sex behind their parents backs.
Ambition is as about as common as gold.
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Exactly.
I'm glad I'm a bit smarter than the rest though, no drugs for me and sex will come whenever I feel like it, and not just because everyone else is doing it. xD
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I applaud you!
Same here....but that's so "uncool."
The moment I reveal that I have ambition or any kind of intelligence? I'm suddenly a know-it-all, socially rejected nerd.
God bless America (not)!
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Ahahah I applaud you too!
Oh well, just ignore them, you're better than them. It's better to take care of education first and make sure you have a good one, that will help you more in life than drugs and sex.
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XD
Thhhank you!
Or they say I'm lame because I don't have a bOyFrIenD.
People, I'm in my early teens, its not like I could possibly create a lasting relationship at this age, I have other more important things to spend my time on (like my mini zoo internship), and I DONT NEED ONE TO SURVIVE FUNNY ENOUGH.
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Hahaha I know that feeling. I was always laughed at for not having a boyfriend until I got one a year ago and we're still together. But it's not like we're real lovers, we're more just best friends who happen to be in love with each other, but you don't see us kissing or any of that stuff, a hug suffice.
Oh my god I wanna work at a zoo too. there's one close to us where I sometimes worked because my grandfather worked there but yeah he's not working there any more. I do come there regularly, they're not the best zoo but they're improving more and more, thank god.
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Yeah, it no makes sense to me. Idk why you *have* to be dating someone,.its really stupid.
Awesome! My internship has been so incredible.
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