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Holycrap1992 β Vilgax and Kevin 11 Redesigns
Published: 2015-01-30 22:50:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 15259; Favourites: 243; Downloads: 123
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My redesign(s) of both Vilgax and Kevin 11(both of whom, in my headcanon, would still be badass villains). The stick-figure is just there for scale.Part of what ruined Vilgax's character after the original series was that, while he still retained most of his cunning, manipulative intellect, he was significantly powered-down from the unstoppable juggernaut that he was originally. Here, though, after his defeat at the end of the original series(whether that ending is "Secret of the Omnitrix" or "Goodbye and Good Riddance" is, more or less, irrelevant), he's had his technicians and medical drones enhance him with even better cybernetics. He now has even greater-enhanced muscles, more 'roid bars(including in his legs, for super-jumps), more durable armor, and even a few weapons(like hand-blasters and energy swords). Vilgax is now more powerful and dangerous than ever!
With Kevin, on the other hand, it made no sense to have him reform and join Ben's team from Alien force onwards. This is a guy who was ready to cause two subway trains(one of which contained hundreds of innocent people) to crash into each other just for money, a guy who gleefully attacked countless people while disguised as Ben's aliens, and a guy who "slightly" crushed/burned Gwen's hand while holding her hostage during his little play-date with the franchise's biggest-bad(tell me again how/why these two are supposedly "made for each other?"); I'm sorry, UAF/OV Kevin fans, but there's no room for redemption after all of that... and no weak excuse called "Osmosians" will ever change that.
Vilgax and Kevin 11 both belong to Man of Action Studios and Cartoon Network.
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Love the desings. I much prefer the Vilgax one over teh Af season 3 one.
Now i disagree about VIlgax not being an unstopable Juggernaut in AF. He beat the entirerity of the plumber's helpers and most of Ben's aliens (even being stronger than a fully grown humongosaur). While yeah he was beaten by Dimaondhead who was beaten by Vilgax the first battle you could say it was an ironic defeat since he was the alien that got the most trashed and Vilgy killed his peole ,its not too unveliable to assume that Ben has had practise time with him since the last time he fought Vilgax (ingoring the fact that he has been able to use Diamondhead effectivily in the Master control episode and his future self tought he was a good choice to fight Vilgax 10k so he should have some chances). I would say that he was quite powerful its just that they didnt use his powers well following his first appearence. UA and OV did bring him down (tho i like the Diagon doublecorssing idea it could have been handled better).
Now i also feel that Kevin's redemption was too quick but i feel it was the right move. Heck even the creators think so. WhileΒ he did do some pretty terrible things he never killed anyone and he was a misguided kid, compare this to say Darth Vader who participated on the genocide of children and got redeemed in one movie. I wish it was more developed tho but things like the UA and OV arcs about Kevin made it worht it for me.Β
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Very nice designs but they did hint that Kevin in the original series had some depth like when he says nobdy's innocent they just hadn't had the chance to make fun of me.
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A pity we hardly got to see it before they retconned his entire backstory and tried to make him a good guy for all the Gwevin shippers...
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Well what about the flashback in ultimate alien where he went to that prison?
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Is there any way you could possibly list out all the aliens shown in this Kevin's appearance ... please and thank you?. Also does he have any more aliens as in powers that are not in this appearance? Holycrap1992 Β
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I've got that on my "To-Do" list...
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Whew! I'd love to do it myself, but I'd need a computerized version, not a pencilled version, for detail. No offense!
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Also...with Vilgax...my take on him Post-UAF? I'm thinkin this way;
See, after the Diagon incident, his powers he stole are taken away as well which results in him needing his cybneretics once more as his body as healed with Ascalon's energy and with it removed, he is falling apart from the seams withou any of it. So now 69% of his body is now machine with includes both of his legs, his right arm and his mouth area and most of his torso. His 'True form' (Which is really a lost pwoer of his people that he had unlocked during his travels of t10 worlds) is now alos more horrific with the nano-machines Psyphon put into his cybernetics to make sure they can stay with him when he needs to use that form, making him a sort of mecha-Kraken when he is fully powered (And yes, I am gonna have that true form/Kraken form actually live up to the hype of it being the most powerful form of Vilgax 
But during the first two seasons when MAlware is on the loose, Vilgax is more behind the scenes, the man behindt he man for Psyphon's gang which are really a test for hwo he believes are the most worthy to work under him. The most worthy? Bubble Helmet (For his loyalty and his ability to last in dangerous areas), LIam (For being the closest to killing Ben) and Thunderpig (For his ferocity in battle), along with Eel-Fink (for his sharp-shooting) and of course...Rojo, for helping him get the robotics he needs to survive. He is back to his more ruthless mindset as he is forgetting about being the rulers of just 10 worlds whe he had the pwoer of a god and it was taken away, so he wishes to eprsonally destory the Plumbers and the galactic peace corp that they are apart of (The creators of the Galactic Code of ConducT) and has gotten the aid of a certain...time-master if you would to help him get more advanced weapons and to aid him in his revenge against the Tennyson family and the plumbers, butis being a lot mroe calculating...
UBT when he is back to full power and going into battle? LETS just say that...well...I hope the heroes like the taste of asphault, because they're gnona be tasting the pavement when he's back in action
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NICE! When did Liam almost kill Ben?
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Before Ben got Kickin Hawk; basically when Liam is the one beating on him when things are going south when the fusion event happened.
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Honestly, this would've been infinitely better than what we actually got(or, rather, the facepalm-inducing lack thereof......... "And Then There Were None"/"And Then There Was Ben" was pretty good, though)...
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And no, MA Vreedle NEVER made Vilgax cry...maybe intimidated Psyphon, but I think Vilgax has seen worse than her
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.................. I mean, I kinda figured that much would be pretty obvious(seriously, what in the nine Hells were they even thinking with that?!?)...
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Indeed...
Also...see the Kevin Timeline I made? ;;
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Not much(I still think they should've used this stuff to help set-up and develop Kevin's Heel-Face-Turn, rather than as a halfhearted attempt at justifying it a fortnight after-the-fact)...
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Had a slight realization why I like Kevin reforming...looking back to first watching. Ben 10, the original one...
Kevin was a character I felt was the most bland. Powers aside, he felt rather bland when compared to Animo, Vilgax, Zombozi, Zs'Scayr, Enoch and the forever knights...they all felt like good villains, but Kevin? Looking back, I only liked him when it was his future version, not the usual since that Kevin felt like a true blue super villain. Regular Kevin 11? I just found him forgettable...when you compare him to the other villains. Because compared to a powerful warlord, a head of a secret society, a master of an entire monsterous solar system and even a powerful sorcer like Hex or a mad doctor like Animo...at the end of the day...Kevin just came off as a bratty kid.
Kevin 11K felt like a good villain, but that was literally the only time I saw him as a legit threat and that was in adulthood. Otherwise, he's just a bratty kid who throws temper tantrum a and picks fights.
but that's just me ;;;
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Agreeing with you there.
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I know he was mentally unhinged,but that doesn't automatically make him a good villain. He was petty, immature and doesn't seem to be all there with smarts. I honestly can't take his word for his past BECAUSE he was insane; a crazy person can be out right lying, can't remember right or exaggerating.
he thought everyone was out to get him because of a few teenage thugs. Sorry, but...no. The motivation isn't sound, he wasn't that good of a villain and aside from Ken 10 and his introduction episode, he was kind of a chore to watch because he kept whining or acting like he was the best thing since sliced bread. The other villains had something to enjoy, even one-offs. But Kevin? NONE.Β
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Very nice. Kevin looks great, and i can definitely see this being what he looks like if he stayed evil. Though i have to say, Vilgax looks fantastic, and legitimately more powerful than what was said of his appearance in UAF. And though i'm neutral when it comes to Kevin, since i'm somewhat fond of him, i will say i definitely agree with what you said about Vilgax. Vilgax is supposed to be, from my viewpoint, something akin to a cross between Frieza and Bane in character concept. A ruthless, vile, sadistic monster of a tyrant who ruled much of the known galaxy/universe by means of fear and intimidation. He literally ruled with an iron fist, and only the Plumbers were brave enough to challenge, and fight him. And though he was arrogant, he also had cunning intelligence that allowed him to come up with effective plans. And his enhancements made him all but invincible, and a monstrous powerhouse. None of Ben's aliens could even phase him, until Waybig was brought in. But the fact is, Vilgax was a powerful, vicious, and all around brutal foe. If anly i could say the same for his later appearances. I don't know what he did to remove his enhancements, but considering how poorly he was portrayed afterwards, should only prove to him how big a mistake it was to get rid of him. I don't care how many alien powers he absorbed, it still didn't add to nothing when he gets beaten by Diamondhead, an alien he could crush into dust back in the original series, in both UAf AND Omniverse. I mean, sure he got a break in the episode where he turned Malware into a mechsuit, and he did look awesome, but it still doesn't make up for the fact that Vilgax was turned into a sad letdown after Ben 10. Though i can say that seeing pictures like this, where he is honored for the awesome badass he once was, is a genuine treat. And i can definitely say, i enjoyed seeing this, and will enjoy putting this in my favorites list even more.
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Thank you, it honestly does my heart good to have sparked such in-depth analysis.
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You're very welcome. Such art i feel deserves to have a proper analysis. And it just so happens that Analysing things is a speciality of mine. Especially when it comes to my favcorite characters, and how well people design them in any way.
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Now I'm liking the looks of Kevin and Vilgax, they look really awesome.
And I agree with you, Kevin should have stayed as a villain instead of becoming a useless self centered hero.
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Thanks.
I'm still trying to piece-together the so-called "logic" of that decision...
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Eh, I kinda saw it as the same logic as reforming Venom in spiderman
Making the darker counterpart of a hero turn over a new leaf isn't a NEW thing. I mean...Shadow kinda was a villain, and now he's friends with Sonic. Red hood is a darker anologue of Bamtan, and now Jason is back on the hero side for the most part.
Honestly, I think what could have helped with the 'reform' if it was more gradual
So yeah, kinda why I can get why you, and don't like it ;;;
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While I understand your opinion and respect that you like the Reformed Kevin more, that doesn't justify how it was executed.
Comparing Kevin to Hood and Shadow is like Comparing Joker to Winter Soldier and Darth Vader. I'm sorry, but Kevin's reformation is completely unbelievable.
Shadow and Hood were already implied good guys. They had build up and were forshadowed. UAF! Kevin has none!
There was no forshadowing, no buildup, just POOF! "I'm a good guy now" What Kevin did in the original was completely heinous and unredeemable. Crashing two trains together to make a quick buck? Going after the bullies to kill them? Terrorizing people as Ben's aliens? (Plus giving LT. Steele the scar). When ben wasn't protected, he would go after him? HE EVEN ADMITTED HE LOVED KILLING PEOPLE!!
And don't get me started on the stupidly forced Gwevin romance (which was McDuffie's failed attempt to sink Bwen shippers)
And his portrayal in UAF? Horrible! I mean? First episode, Kevin is already committing acts of crime (Selling weapons and attacking Ben), then for no reason Gwen is quick to trust him (no reason at all) . That? And they also treat his acts as if he were a mere crook instead of a crazy psychopath. He nearly murders two cops! He assaulted a Plumber Magister! He Promoted war, instead of helping out! He is always the first to attack! He attacked an OBVIOUS Baby! He Murdered Ragnarok in cold blood! He Murdered the Alien Force! The list goes on.
And no, I'm not buying that Osmosian Bullcrap that McDuffie clearly pulled out to justify Kevin's actions. It's like saying Joker did all those heinous acts was because "He was lonely, let's forgive him". Would you forgive a Criminal just because he was on drugs?
What's worse? All the terrible acts he instill upon the sequel series (Yes, OV included), for no reason KevinΒ is forgiven and constantly get's away with it, because reasons?
I'm sorry, but Kevin's portrayal in UAF was unneeded and should have never happened. As stated, Kevin joining the heroes was meant to stop the fanbase from shipping Bwen and appeal to the fan girls.
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not attacking you or anything. Just voicing my statements.
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Didn't he murder Ragnarok because he killed his dad (the biological one, not Harvey Hackett)?
Also, who were the cops and Plumber Magister Kevin tried to murder?
And when did the baby and Alien Force incidents happen?
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In the episode "Everybody talks about the weather". Kevin nearly runs over the cops. And the magisters he assaulted wereΒ Prior Gilhil and Labrid. Kevin was selling illegal weapons to the Forever Knights and DNAliens. Then later on, he assaults Prior Gilhil after they were caught impersonating the plumbers.
The baby I am referring to is Tiny. Obviously acting like a baby, playing with objects, and crying when Ben hurt her. Ben and Kevin attacked it for nearly 3 (5 as stated by Gwen) minutes (And what was Gwen doing while Kevin and Ben attacked Tiny?)
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For the Labrid thing, he probably wanted to atone for that which is why he decided to commit himself to good after he died. For Prior Gilhil, that was probably because of his personal daddy issues.
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Though if I may...can I say that there are villains who have reformed that did MUCH worse than Kevin? Vilgax would be less believable unlike Kevin (who is a kid mind you,..a kid with very noticeable mental issues. But unlike Joker, he doesn't use them as justification, he's just a lot more cynical than Ben as he hated people who treated him as a freak, thus making him a villain in the making). Also...Kevin is more like Venom than Joker as a dark anologue villain, Joker is a genocidal clown.
You used Darth Vader to compare my examples. The dude has caused mass genocides and it took one act of human decency to reform him. Not counting III, he blew up a PLANET. Kinda worse than what Kevin has done.
As for other reforms you could say appealed to the fan girls...how about Sasuke? He betrayed his friends for his revenge. And what happened? At the end, he reformed to take on crazy rabbit goddess or with tha, Kabuto and Oroçhimaru did a lot of horrible things and now they're buddy buddy with Naruto. Or heck, GAARA.
Or Draco Malfoy. He was a Death Rater in training and antagonized Harry and friends for years prior. By the end? By gones.
or heck, let's go back to Venom. He was a mass killing alien parasite who wanted to mind screw a journalist who had beef with Spider-Man. He's done god knows how much, but both Eddie Brock and Flash Thomson has used the symbiotes to fight criminals.
reforming villains like that (only a few examples here) are actually very common place. You are right that part of the motivation was to end the incest ships, I'll admit to that, BUT let's also remember that Kevin is a very popular character and there is an Appel for a reformed villain on a team
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