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  • We are a group of artists that have noticed there's widespread confusion and misconceptions spreading about the limits and ethics of referencing, so we have decided to help the community by clearing up the idea of what referencing is! -- You can also watch a video about it, just click here! 

    What is referencing?

    When we talk about “referencing,” we could also talk about “searching for information.” Imagine that you have to do an essay for school about plants, animals, planets, in other words, a subject you don’t know much about. What’s the first thing you do before you start writing? Search for information about that subject, either on the internet or books, or ask your family and friends.


    In the art world, referencing is exactly the same. It’s recognizing your lack of knowledge about a specific thing and seeking knowledge about the subject, so that you know more than what you did at the start. By expanding your knowledge, you can draw things your own way thanks to the information you gained from your previous search.


    And you can do this as much as you want. This does not make your art worse, and it doesn’t make you any less of an artist; it actually means you are aware of your current limits and that you wish to overcome them and improve.




    Why should I reference?

    Studying from real life or professional works of others helps build a memory of how objects are shaped, observe how they move, and perceive depth (seeing things in “3D”). Over time, your mind builds a library of shapes, forms, and ideas. But memory isn't always accurate, so having references also helps refresh those ideas and can possibly bring inspiration to an artist as well!

    Sagiri references! So should you!



    Why is referencing important?

    To put it simply, referencing gives you an opportunity to improve by offering a collection of real life and professional resources to study and recreate in your own way.


    By referencing, you are also observing things captured in nature and life. Drawing blindly shuts you away from reality, and you will not be able to grasp the form and shape of things as easily because you're not observing anything. You're not learning of the things around you that fuel your brain to become creative and inspired.


    Referencing also allows you to pick up on techniques other artists use. You can find ways to replicate another artist’s style in portions, then adapt those techniques to your own style. It’s a good way to develop your skillset as an artist.


    Sometimes you might get stuck in same-face syndrome or same-pose syndrome, or even same-lighting or same-composition syndrome. Referencing someone else’s work can help you break the cycle and experience different feelings and aesthetics! It refreshes your brain and your sense of beauty. Artists who don’t reference will often get stuck in “style ruts” and get bored doing the same things over and over again. If you feel the boredom or feel you’re not improving as quickly, maybe it’s time to reference something challenging!







    How do I reference?

    Grab an image, observe and absorb how everything works there, study the object/part you are going to draw, ask questions to yourself, such as “why does the light bend that way in this part?”. Look at the small details, think about them, and then try drawing it.

    Remember to supplement referencing 2D images/photos and graphics with observing real, 3D space. The reason for this is that doing 2D art is actually creating optical illusions of depth, and you can’t capture the sense of real depth if you don’t look at real depth in real life.




    What is the difference between referencing and copying a style?

    While referencing means gathering information to draw things on your own way based on that info, copying a style means you found some info and you are going to use it exactly as it is, without changing or putting your own artistic touch to it.

    Copying a style may eventually lead you to a dead end because you are only relying on the artistic sense of another person. It makes you look like you have no opinion on your own. What if the artist you are copying ever stops improving or drawing at all? You’ll then have no way to move forward because you won’t know how to draw things by yourself.




    But people say that referencing is wrong and it’s stealing?

    Referencing is not stealing. It is mounting your vision onto the framework of another artist’s vision. It would be stealing if you take the vision of the other artist, didn’t alter it at all, replicated everything as exactly as possible, then passed it off as your own idea. But if it has your own style on it, your own take on it, then the closest it might be called is an “homage,” especially when it’s done with admiration for the referenced piece in your heart.


    Professional artists reference all the time. Some pros will use reference boards, pin up images all over them, and continuously go back to them throughout their work process. This helps them stay grounded to their vision and not lose their way! Some artists will call this collection a “concept bible” or an “inspiration map” and collecting references for these is an indispensable skill for any art director. Professionals also reference for technical details because trying to memorize everything might not always be as efficient as looking things up! Books for posing, color, anatomy and architecture are published for artists to use for this purpose.

    Collecting references, not only from other artists but through real life, helps expand an artist’s “visual library”. Observation is a key aspect in understanding how the world we visualize functions because of these characteristics. Referencing helps our memory on the subject in order for us to more quickly and accurately draw said subject in future works. It is important that what we translate from real life is understood by the audience as well. While we stay true to life, it is also our goal to emulate it in our own tastes.


    Referencing only becomes a problem when an artist too heavily relies on a certain aspect that it is near identical to what is being referenced. Aside from losing the uniqueness of your own creativity, you are not quite honing in on the skill or comprehension. It is fine to trace or heavily reference, only in the interest of improvement and studying, so long as it is either not shared publically, or credit is given to the artist you are heavily referencing from.


    If you’re really uncertain whether your referenced image is too close to the original, you can still upload it as long as you make it clear in your description that this is a “study” and don’t make money off of it, or if you have an agreement with the artist of the original for another arrangement. Otherwise, if you’re still too nervous, you don’t have to share it… but you should still reference because it’ll help you improve!


    Another thing to keep in mind is that you should reference from a wide range of sources and artists rather than limit yourself to one or two. Variety is always good, and it makes sure that you aren’t referencing one artist too closely for comfort!



    Where do you find your references and how do you store/organize them?

    I generally keep organized folders of references for different things such as lighting, poses, colors, etc. My references come from multiple sources such as pixiv, instagram, and twitter ! It's important to try a variety of reference materials (anime style, photographed, etc) to develop a wide base knowledge. Learning how to observe, how to interpret those observations, how to put them on paper (or a digital application), and eventually how to add your own twist or spin become valuable tools for improving!


    My sources online are mostly pixiv and twitter (sometimes facebook too), because there’s a diverse range of applied techniques and sometimes you just see something and it occurs to you that you’ve never treated the reference object in that light! I’m nowhere near as organised as Vi though haha, thankfully since I tend to browse twitter via my phone and there’s a handy save function, my twitter gallery folder is mostly filled with reference material or really pretty compositions I may look back on. However, just as often I like to go on google images and use stock images. I also take reference pictures (gardens, interesting forms, lighting) with a compact Canon when I go out, no matter what occasion you’re bound to find something of inspiration outside. That being said, even if you don’t go outside you can still get some good reference pics (selfies!!!). I like to indulge myself with selfies when there’s strong 3pm sunlight or softer, coloured sunset light but I’ve actually found they’re a great way to study how light falls onto the face, clothing and surroundings!


    I have some references saved on dA, but most of the time, I remember what artists I’d like to revisit and their typical drawing subject. If it’s for more of a general idea, such as palette or anatomy, I’ll usually just search it up on google. There are some good free-to-use photography image-providing websites that are very helpful, and along those lines, palette/color-providing websites. I personally haven’t used them myself, but I would definitely recommend searching a bit if you’re interested. I also often retweet artwork that aesthetic pages share for artists who are old or already deceased. These are very inspirational, and I would definitely recommend seeing the beauty in old artworks as well. I’ll now and then sift through my twitter timeline or my favorites for recently shared artwork. Discord is also an amazing website for storing and sharing resources amongst other artists. It is also interesting to see how artists of different styles will also reference from resources that would not generally fall within their style. But that’s how you learn to understand the fundamentals, and how these elements and principles can be applied differently.


    it’s basically the same for me. I sometimes go to whatever artist gallery to get inspiration/reference for compositions, poses, colors… Others I just save the pictures that I find interesting on my computer or gallery favs, but I also find many references on my daily life. I usually find myself staring at people or objects, I feel fascinated about how some things are shaped in life and I try to remember details that can help me draw these things later at home.

    I also own dolls that I use sometimes as anatomy references. I like to play with the poses and look at them from different angles until I find something that can make an interesting composition.


    If I’m browsing Twitter or Instagram, and I see something I like or might use, I save it on my computer/phone for future reference and note which account I found it on in case I want to revisit that page. This applies to anything, whether it be art style, anatomy, composition/flow, color combinations, poses, photographs etc. If I’m looking for a specific image, like a pose or a certain object, the easiest way is Google Images. I’ve also noticed that you can find a lot more than you think on Pinterest, since that’s where I usually go nowadays for photo references of people, or certain styles of outfits. On top of that it helps to take photos on your own -- if I’m referencing a certain part of the body I just use a mirror and/or my phone, and if I see something pretty (this especially applies to scenery and food) while I’m out and about I’ll usually take a photo of it. And finally, for random inspiration, I just scroll through the feeds of artists I like, OR my own and/or others’ Favorites folders on DA; sometimes you’ll notice things there that you forgot about before and it can help you make something completely new~!


    My main sources are image boards like danbooru, which have a neat tagging system if you're looking for specific body movements or outfits. With an account there, I can favorite artwork I like and visit back without endless searching (eventually I save them all and organize them locally on my desktop). Other sources are artists from Twitter and Pixiv. For bodies, I also use DesignDoll, which has proven to be a very neat program for posing 3D models, and occasionally I'll play with physical mannequins to study a pose from various angles. For clothes, I browse Pinterest or google. I also happen to work in the apparel section in retail, so I get the opportunity to see all sorts of clothes as well as observe customers (how they're shaped, how they move, etc.).


    I get references from everywhere, Pixiv, Twitter, DA, Danbooru, Pinterest, free-stock-photos sites, search engine. If I need something, I search for it no matter where; internet is endless and amazing, and lucky enough, most of the images are tagged. As as soon as I see an useful tutorial I save it on “how to” folder, inside “references” folder, which has another ones to most necessary things to me, like faces, anatomy, shading, night lighting, and so on, all of these are a folder filled with references related to only that topic, so it is easy to find. Basically, if I see it, it is good, I save!

       I find references from everywhere! Usually pieces of artwork, photography, and movies give me inspiration for my artwork and I often use that initial inspo piece as part of my references. I use Pinterest to store my references, but I usually just have a ton of tabs open with references when working on a certain piece. Pinterest is my favorite reference organizer though~ I especially like that the Pinterest feed will also recommend similar pins which makes it easier to find new references! When trying to get a certain pose I often use myself as a reference with my mirror. Sometimes it hard to find the exact reference I’m looking for so making my own references is really helpful~ I find references really help with setting the ‘mood’ you are trying to achieve with your artwork as well and creating a ‘mood board’ of references can really help with achieving the theme you are going for~!

     I find references often by googling what I want to draw. As example, I often google specific scenarios, expressions or poses. It's pretty easy to find something what I was looking for in the ever expanding internet full of sources! I use anime pics, real life photos and even figurines to study anatomy and poses. For coloring references I often look at pictures and try to find a way to draw something similar but with my own twist! Sometimes I use guides to learn how to color certain things and they all have helped me tons to improve my art over the years. I have a lot of dA favorites of references and other useful drawing technique tips and sometimes I just collect pose ideas etc. to my pc. I use sometimes design doll program and real life objects as well. Mirrors come also handy and I reference my own hands for poses too!


     I usually get my references from twitter, pixiv, deviant art and pinterest for general digital illustrations --  I gather a mix of materials, from illustrations to sketches to photos to guides, and I save them in an organized folder on my computer. I also have materials from Patreon -- in my case, it’s from Kawacy and Shilin -- as I tend to pay for additional study materials from artists that use techniques I have trouble replicating. Finally, I have a stash of artbooks and photobooks on my shelf to reference for analog work if I decide to work at high resolution for the possibility of printing. For poses, I use Designdoll to get a framework and a perspective, then use anatomy illustrations and diagrams to fill in the necessary details. For the most part, I tend to keep a mental bank of what artists are known to me for what techniques and I visit their work as needed. However, if I’m doing exercises and warm-ups, I almost always prefer to draw from real life and will put together random objects from the kitchen to do lifestudy from. I will people-watch and draw reference from the city when I feel particularly constrained. Places like the gym, sports meets, dance studios are all great for studying dynamics and gesture.


      Most of my referenced images are divided into two main folders, one for inspiring styles/compositions, and one for color palettes! I have a few extra folders that are used for when attempting a specific style; such as anime, digital paintings, copic art etc. I find my references everywhere, from dA and Twitter to color schemes on people's profiles or photography. Because I save so many unique things, I have a wide variety of references to pick from. For a challenge, it's fun to go through and pick a random image to try drawing elements from, I find it’s an interesting way to learn certain skills that you may not be actively seeking out!

    Originally, I didn’t use other’s art for reference very much, as it would make me feel bad due to believing it was wrong! (I know better now though) But I do have a huge folder with beautiful art that have inspired me through the years! I often find inspiration through other people’s favorites, likes and tags on DA, twitter, Instagram, Pixiv and other websites I’ve come across. Sometimes I did reference for style practice though and studied how others did their art by looking carefully at their artwork. I also used a lot of references on naked models for anatomy practice, that I found through tumblr and DA. There’s also a website called posemaniacs that use realistic 3D models with visible muscles. I got into naked model referencing after attending a croquis session in school a few years ago. I would definitely recommend croquis it as it taught me A LOT in just an hour!

       Just like Pemiin above, we grew up with the stigma that referencing was wrong! (It isn’t). I’m so happy to share my newfound knowledge! I like to collect references from dA, Pixiv, Twitter and Tumblr. I mostly collect pictures of cool lightning and colour schemes or neat poses! Sometimes if I struggle with a pose, I use the 3D modeling system provided by Clip Studio paint. It is not the most accurate but it can give a good “basic” view how the perspective works, and foreshortening. Collecting artbooks from well established artists with tutorials always helps me. Each artist has an individual way of drawing, and there is always something new to learn from each person you come across. I like to use my newfound knowledge as references as well, hence my art and colouring can change quite a bit depending on who inspired me. Which I think is great. Reference away and find your own aesthetics! ♥


    Samples of referencing:

    You can click on the thumbnails to see the full size!
    [Click here to check more from other artists + sources  ]

     

    Nero Festival  by RosuuriCE: Capricorn  by berrysquid  

    First love PREVIEW  by naomochi  | Nana's Sweet Dream  by Squishibear  



    Thank you to contributing artists!

       




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    Comments: 196

    bianqiart [2019-05-25 23:52:28 +0000 UTC]

    I am very grateful to everyone who wrote this guide. I am always afraid of referecing and this made me feel more confident. This drawing would not came out this way if I had not used any reference. Thank you.
     

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    Hyanna-Natsu In reply to bianqiart [2019-06-06 20:34:21 +0000 UTC]

    Awnn thank you for checking our Journal i wi)

    your drawing is  beautiful!

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    Ryletik [2019-01-13 14:17:30 +0000 UTC]

    I asked when the huge number of artists as they use references and NO one answered. Thank you very much. I did not even know that you can use other work for lighting, color, background? This discovery

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    RenOokami [2018-07-20 05:01:12 +0000 UTC]

    "difference between referencing and copying a style?" => "people say that referencing is wrong and it’s stealing"

    People just confuse "referencing" and "copying", resulting in both having the same reputation. ^^"

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    Nyatti [2018-04-05 13:37:52 +0000 UTC]

    Wow. This is really helpful. Now I know that what I did most of the time was not a wrong thing.
    When I started drawing, and didn´t know anything about it, I would usually look at a picture and try to draw it the way it was, only later I started using references to only draw some parts of the illustration that I was making, but I was always afraid that someone would say that I was "tracing" or  stealing the art. I never thought that it was the case, as I never had proper education on art, even so I was afraid that someone would say something like that.

    Now I can be assured that what I do is completely normal and that most of the artists do it as well. I do believe that referencing is really important because it helps to improve, so I do encourage it as well.

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    MoodyQueen [2018-01-23 11:44:55 +0000 UTC]

    Wonder advice on this subject. Honestly, I thought referencing was cheating, but after reading your journal, it changed my view.

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    Inkuii [2018-01-18 00:20:45 +0000 UTC]

    Just going to add my own two cents, I mostly get my references from @/senshi-stock whenever I do pose studies. I just pick a photo, set a timer for 2 minutes, and try my best to get the pose down as best as I can. Otherwise, I tend to just google up whatever I need, and if there's a specific pose that I want to draw, but can't find it online, I usually pull out one of my figmas and have them model it for me. Otherwise, I don't usually use references all that much even though I really should.

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    Sardrellas [2018-01-10 04:33:26 +0000 UTC]

    Super good information, thank you!

    Though I'm curious if it'd be alright for me to contribute reference info too, if that's alright.

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    Etyzaya [2018-01-03 01:52:55 +0000 UTC]

    Thank you for addressing this. I mainly reference my memory, images I take, or a pool of images I find through search, but no artwork that is close to a simplified style so as no to copy. No one should have to go through being copied! ;o;
    Although this is just an adopt acc that I made to get better at picking colors and coloring in general, I feel that this does relate to a lot of issues I've seen as a regular artist (plz don't be mistaken; my use of bases and such is pretty much copying; I like that style of body for adopts but I'm bad at drawing it myself).

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    ShootingArow [2017-12-27 06:30:05 +0000 UTC]

    Very resourceful and well said. 

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    shiny-glaceon101 [2017-12-18 17:12:44 +0000 UTC]

    So, a very popular artist on youtube named 3eSsOo traces art but, people keep saying he's only referencing. He uses a program tracking his mouse movements to only show certain parts of his "Drawing" using that mouse movement. Then he makes speedpaints and then gets money from ads.(He doesn't ever credit) Here's an original picture
      and here's the speedpaint: www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1DLTf…


    Wouldn't this be tracing? Or have I been completely wrong?

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    CinnamonAurora In reply to shiny-glaceon101 [2017-12-20 18:11:53 +0000 UTC]

    well, that's definetly heavily referencing, but it isnt exactly tracing, as they arent putting the original drawing and then drawing on top of it, so yeah, its just REALLY heavily referencing, but they really should credit the original, as the credit isnt completely deserved only by them.

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    shiny-glaceon101 In reply to CinnamonAurora [2017-12-22 01:29:11 +0000 UTC]

    Alright. I have been taking multiple views on this subject and I believe he is tracing but, only because this is what he's using to draw: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN-VzZ…

    Although, if I've been completely wrong then I'm a terrible person for accusing him XD.

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    CinnamonAurora In reply to shiny-glaceon101 [2017-12-22 01:45:54 +0000 UTC]

    well, it does really look like he uses this method, he doesnt sketch using the basic method of guide lines, just makes lines perfectly symetric without any kind of guide, which is really weird and other artists rarely ever do this cause its just uncomfortable, its like going blind, and generally makes the result come out bad and with a lot of mistakes. and even MORE if its on ms paint, making lines there is really complicated.

    i believe that your statements are kind of really solid, but i guess its kind of hard to take him down for it because he has a lot of people that support him apparently and its really hard to confirm tracing, but it does really look like he does trace.

    as someone that used to trace like myself, i know how people are really smart when it comes to hiding the fact that they actually trace, and can spend years without getting caught, hopefully if you are right he will get his traced stuff taken down.

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    shiny-glaceon101 In reply to CinnamonAurora [2017-12-22 01:55:04 +0000 UTC]

    Thank you!

    I was trying to get everything set straight and this really helped!

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    CinnamonAurora In reply to shiny-glaceon101 [2017-12-22 02:24:27 +0000 UTC]

    no problem! glad i helped you get everything set straight!

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    FatimaMurtada In reply to CinnamonAurora [2018-01-14 14:48:20 +0000 UTC]

    He is on ms paint how can he draw first basic then line art .He can not make a new layer. (just ask a question not make a figth pleas ok ).And I think his/her video are about how to use a bad ms paint to draw so thing and no to make art because it hard no but impossable  to draw .Like in paint tool sai you know how ms paint do not have layer and lines are even worest in draw.By the way he /her useing mouse. 

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    CinnamonAurora In reply to FatimaMurtada [2018-01-14 20:16:19 +0000 UTC]

    I definetly cannot understand what you are saying, could you please maybe try to speak to me in english? Just, grammar and commas are a thing, you know? Not trying to be rude but yeah.

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    MPRAM In reply to CinnamonAurora [2018-04-09 22:42:55 +0000 UTC]

    PSA: 'Famous' YouTube artist is stealing art

    The person shiny-glaceon is talking about really IS tracing. There is also enough proof in the comments.

    Edit: this was posted to the wrong comment,, I'm sorry

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    FatimaMurtada In reply to CinnamonAurora [2018-01-15 20:20:24 +0000 UTC]

    I said that he is just showing his skill in MS paint.Not in draw. So it is ok to trace.Its like a tutorial to use Ms paint.(Sorry for my bad english .I have write too many english homework and have being done writing good grammar .I think you understand this )

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    CinnamonAurora In reply to FatimaMurtada [2018-01-15 22:15:18 +0000 UTC]

    so let me get this straight, you are saying, that its ok for him to trace cause he's doing some kind of tutorial?
    so lets review, tutorial by definition means "a class in which a tutor gives intensive instruction in some subject to an individual student or a small group of students."
    and if you see his videos, it's most of the time 'speedpaint' whats in the title, not tutorial, so he is indeed showing what he's doing and taking credit for it, not teaching or giving a tutorial, and even so its still wrong to trace even if its for a tutorial, it doesnt save him from the accusation.
    in any kind of case its wrong to trace and post it online, even if you give credit, the only time that tracing is ok is when you do it for practice and never post it anywhere. its even more disgusting when someone posts it online and say its theirs.

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    FatimaMurtada In reply to CinnamonAurora [2018-01-18 06:42:42 +0000 UTC]

    Ok you are rigth sorry

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    Paleo-King [2017-12-10 09:53:10 +0000 UTC]

    If you want to reference something, credit the original artist. Or prepare to EAT CROW!!! I have had to ram a lot of crows, and a few non-avian dinosaurs, down art thieves' throats. It isn't pretty.

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    RedEyedRocker In reply to Paleo-King [2018-05-05 08:36:59 +0000 UTC]

    I have a question, what if you don't know who the artist is or the original source of the reference?

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    Paleo-King In reply to RedEyedRocker [2018-06-01 03:32:28 +0000 UTC]

    Then when they pop up and tell you to take down the image, do as they say.



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    RedEyedRocker In reply to Paleo-King [2018-06-01 06:04:55 +0000 UTC]

    But what if it's not their original work? Like they did a fanart and you're just heavily referencing that fanart?

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    Paleo-King In reply to RedEyedRocker [2018-06-02 04:49:47 +0000 UTC]

    Still best to credit the maker of the first fanart.

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    RedEyedRocker In reply to Paleo-King [2018-06-02 06:55:51 +0000 UTC]

    That again leads to my original question.

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    Sirenightsparrow In reply to Paleo-King [2018-01-03 05:29:25 +0000 UTC]

    um if they art theives they didnt really reference...

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    Paleo-King In reply to Sirenightsparrow [2018-01-03 07:43:17 +0000 UTC]

    That's the point. I'm encouraging people to NOT become art thieves in the first place. If you want to call yourself an artist, do some original work. I don't care if it "sucks", that's better than stealing someone else's work and never improving.

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    shoujogirlz [2017-12-09 23:44:30 +0000 UTC]

    If it's OK to copy someone else's work, it's OK to trace it too. Thanks, thanks. Thanks.

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    ViPOP In reply to shoujogirlz [2017-12-12 23:08:54 +0000 UTC]

    The journal never said anything about equating the acceptance of copying to the acceptance of tracing. This journal's focus is on referencing. 

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    shoujogirlz In reply to ViPOP [2017-12-13 06:33:26 +0000 UTC]

    Makes no difference. Referencing is just another form of art theft. Thanks.

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    ViPOP In reply to shoujogirlz [2017-12-13 14:59:09 +0000 UTC]

    I see. If this is what you consider art theft:
    sta.sh/069nd0mqy4x

    Then this journal will likely not be of benefit to you. 

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    QueenofReveries [2017-12-07 13:15:19 +0000 UTC]

    I reference whenever I'm stuck and doesn't know exactly how it should be done properly. I would search and observe an image or my surroundings, even myself xD It was very helpful. Seeing other artists' artworks could help a lot as well. Like, whenever I look at it closely, I will wonder how it became so beautiful with good lightning and shade, color combinations, overall composition and such. Later I'll used what I've found out or learn to on that drawing. And yes to studying what you'll draw because you'll also get a better understanding on that thing or object and it will broaden your knowledge.♡

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    Dew-Clementine-Drop [2017-11-25 04:10:31 +0000 UTC]

    You cannot steal or copying a style

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    ViPOP In reply to Dew-Clementine-Drop [2017-12-12 23:09:54 +0000 UTC]

    this journal did not address stealing or copying a style . Its focus was referencing. 

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    cheruunim In reply to Dew-Clementine-Drop [2017-12-08 07:13:54 +0000 UTC]

    There’s no such rule saying that you can’t have the same art style as someone -_-

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    cheruunim In reply to cheruunim [2017-12-08 07:18:07 +0000 UTC]

    However , you must at least add your own touch to the drawing !

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    Littlesnowcream [2017-11-20 20:01:54 +0000 UTC]

    This is Great. Good job!

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    QebQake101 [2017-11-17 19:35:13 +0000 UTC]

    I need to throw this at some people

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    Cinnamon-Apple-Cider In reply to QebQake101 [2017-12-13 01:02:39 +0000 UTC]

    Ikr

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    DSlayerMinster [2017-11-14 11:40:31 +0000 UTC]

    Thanks for sharing this, it's a valuable perspective to have when creating art.

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    Captain-Red-Feather [2017-11-13 10:36:14 +0000 UTC]

    Wish I could have found this years ago. I could have pointed this out to someone who VERY MUCH needs a reality check. 

    Someone threw a shit fit at me because I used a FREE TO USE animation reference / guide. 

    All animation I do is learned by me - I have no 'real' training. It said in the description it was a FTU mouth/lyric synching guide, and all we had to do was mention them as the tutorial. 
    I used it as one would use a reference; I based my art off the mouth poses, but didn't copy any frame exactly {I had to change the muzzle to look more like my character and I made sure I credited and linked back.

    You should have SEEN the nearly harassment comments they gave me. It went on and on about how I STOLE their ideas, that they were going to have me reported for art theft even after I pointed out they were NOT the same exact image. I ended up having to take it down just to shut them up. Since then I've lost my animation file, so I can't even re upload it if I wanted to. 

     Not to mention the outright harassment I got because I CAN reference and redraw animals nearly exactly {YEARS of working at a zoo helped out a lot there}.
    I was labeled a theif and tracer ecause I was able to redraw a pose of two wolves fighting nearly identical to the photo. If they had looked through my gallery, they would have seen my MANY other images of semi-realistic animals. 

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    KaeMcSpadden [2017-11-08 01:14:12 +0000 UTC]

    I have heard many art thieves use referencing as an excuse for tracing. Great way to explaining the difference.

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    ViPOP In reply to KaeMcSpadden [2017-12-12 23:10:12 +0000 UTC]

    Thank you for appreciating it ! 

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    Rethar-Stonehammer [2017-11-06 20:41:23 +0000 UTC]

    This is great help! Thanks so much for posting!

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    ArtEpona [2017-11-03 11:30:38 +0000 UTC]

    Thank you for this - it's very timely! As an illustration student many years ago I was taught always to use reference, because however well I thought I knew what something looked like, good referencing would make my work technically better and more convincing. 

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    Pxtchwork [2017-11-02 16:44:14 +0000 UTC]

    What a lovely explanation! I am so glad that you wrote this for all of us to enjoy~
    Thank you. It is too often that artists choose not to study or reference for fear of disturbing artistic integrity. Finally there is a voice to calm the worries of budding artists everywhere! Keep up the good work! <3

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    tenchibaka [2017-10-30 03:44:48 +0000 UTC]

    cute idea but it does not really say much about theft, about respecting the creator or safe browsing practices. it's like saying 'go out and eat everything you can' to someone with no concept of money; you've left out a basic concept(in this case getting permission/not using something cleary stated as not being usable as a reference)


    this being said i understand it is more profitable to neglect less-than-ideal situations such as the actual reality of theft, plagiarism, copyright infringement and general human laziness and this is really just a general fluff piece to assuage people's fear of being called an art thief(regardless of whether or not they are thieving)

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