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Published: 2017-09-16 13:11:03 +0000 UTC; Views: 18352; Favourites: 662; Downloads: 30
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Description Jurassic plesiosaurs are well known... would you think! But there are actually some gaps in our knowledge which are still hard to fill.
So it was a pleasant surprise when Sven Sachs learned of a plesiosaur specimen in the hands of Siegfried Schubert which came from the Pliensbachian, one of these gaps. 
How it turned out this specimen, which was handed around non-plesiosaur experts for some time, was among the three most complete specimens of this stage. And how further investigations showed it was also a new genus.
Yesterday it was published and also shown to the press. Arminisaurus is the name of this new beast, which wasn't completely fully grown when it died but probably hit up to 3,5 m in length. 
Besides it's welcoming stratigraphic placement it also shows a strange character combination. Some features of this beasts are only found in Cretaceous taxa, which opens the question how much evolutionary importance some of these characters have, and which are just convergent functional developments.
Phylogenetic analysis placed Arminisaurus near the base of the pliosauromorph clade, however this could change in the future because Arminisaurus is in a way different  that it could point to a hidden diversity among early pliosaurians, I wouldn't surprised if we would have one day Ariminisauridae as a own clade. But that's just musings in the moment, the pliensbachian gap is still one that has to be filled, and I'm excited to see what the future will show us. 

For this picture I looked into the literature of this formation, especially the "Herforder Liasgrube", the broader locality were this fossil comes from. Unfortunately this part of the formation is still underrepresented in the literature, so I based parts of my picture on the Franconian part. 
Fish are rather rare, but cephalopods, especially belemnites are a common find, as well as ammonites, clams and brachiopods. Terrestrial fossils are nearly unknown, only fossilized wood shows that the land was probably not that far. 
Because Arminisaurus has short robust teeth I depict it here with a suitable prey item: Eryma, a crustacean which was common during the Jurassic in Germany. It probably also ate fish and belemnites, and how Siegfried told me there are ammonites with probably suitable bite marks. 
I also need to thank Sönke Simonsen another local collector who was so kind to help me a little with the faunal composition.

Here the paper: l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3…
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Comments: 51

Cerberus-Chaos In reply to ??? [2023-06-30 16:24:38 +0000 UTC]

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Ama-Encyclopika [2018-03-30 18:17:51 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely beautiful!

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NocturnalSea [2017-11-09 12:07:43 +0000 UTC]

I like that you've depicted it feeding in a way we don't often see in paleoart. I feel like artistic depictions of prehistoric animals tend to get lumped into generic carnivore/herbivore/piscivore categories without much attention paid to the diversity of feeding methods and prey specializations.

I also love the coloration. It reminds me of a leopard shark.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to NocturnalSea [2017-11-10 13:09:43 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot!

I indeed looked at leopard sharks for this  

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KENDJEE-ZEE [2017-10-30 21:54:43 +0000 UTC]

Awesome!)) i sou  missed such drawings.

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Midway2009 [2017-10-24 17:05:52 +0000 UTC]

Awesome work.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Midway2009 [2017-10-25 13:12:13 +0000 UTC]

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Midway2009 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2017-10-25 15:39:26 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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herofan135 [2017-09-28 13:49:16 +0000 UTC]

This looks really cool, I think you did a great job!

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to herofan135 [2017-10-25 13:12:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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Ayraptor [2017-09-26 15:24:47 +0000 UTC]

Really great!  

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Ayraptor [2017-09-27 01:48:17 +0000 UTC]

Thanks  

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Fireplume [2017-09-22 02:05:38 +0000 UTC]

It's gorgeous, duh lmao

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Fireplume [2017-09-27 01:48:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! 

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Dontknowwhattodraw94 [2017-09-18 12:24:11 +0000 UTC]

More plesiosaurs! Yes!

Those ammonites in the back are surprisingly thin. 

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Dontknowwhattodraw94 [2017-09-27 01:48:03 +0000 UTC]

Yep, there were extremely thin species, these are even more in the medium side of the spectrum, some were truly discs. 

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DimetroDom [2017-09-18 04:11:08 +0000 UTC]

Amazing work, tons of atmosphere and lots of visual info.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to DimetroDom [2017-09-27 01:47:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you ^^

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Spinolover2017 [2017-09-17 20:30:52 +0000 UTC]

whi isn it fihghtingh a mosasasaur!!1!

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Wikkler In reply to Spinolover2017 [2017-09-18 10:34:50 +0000 UTC]

The reason is because that's not how animals work.

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Spinolover2017 In reply to Wikkler [2017-09-18 17:45:46 +0000 UTC]

but i sohuld!!1

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Spinolover2017 [2017-09-27 01:46:59 +0000 UTC]

Mosasaurus were far from being a thing back then, varanoid lizards weren't even there yet. 

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Vitor-Silva [2017-09-17 12:31:43 +0000 UTC]

Simply beautiful! Reminds me of the traditional paintings from the big books about prehistoric life, and they're one of the responsibles for my fascination for the subject. There is such a good feeling looking at it!

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Vitor-Silva [2017-09-27 01:45:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much Vitor! 

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105697 [2017-09-16 16:10:56 +0000 UTC]

Amazing!

Are we sure you are not becoming the go to artist for new plesiosaur press release art?

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to 105697 [2017-09-27 01:45:16 +0000 UTC]

It seems a little like that... 

I wouldn't mind.

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DinoBirdMan [2017-09-16 14:53:42 +0000 UTC]

Isn't that name "Armin-I-saurus" ?   Or is it just me?

Nevermind! I just figured out why.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to DinoBirdMan [2017-09-16 15:46:58 +0000 UTC]

Armin is a relative common name here
But it is actually based on Arminius, the Germanic warlord/commander that drove the Romans back to the South.

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DinoBirdMan In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2017-09-16 15:58:59 +0000 UTC]

I see a point and interesting fact.

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AntonellisofbBender [2017-09-16 14:08:57 +0000 UTC]

WOW this amazing

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to AntonellisofbBender [2017-09-27 01:44:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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AntonellisofbBender In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2017-09-27 02:33:49 +0000 UTC]

your welcome

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bh1324 [2017-09-16 14:06:29 +0000 UTC]

I love the coloration and the perspective. Great work as always!

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to bh1324 [2017-09-27 01:44:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much ^^

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shazzz999 [2017-09-16 14:02:03 +0000 UTC]

Interesting. Three cheers for traditional art!!! S

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to shazzz999 [2017-09-27 01:44:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks  

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eddie1881 [2017-09-16 13:52:41 +0000 UTC]

really nice it looks almost like you were there and took a picture and just put a filter over it

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to eddie1881 [2017-09-27 01:44:07 +0000 UTC]

That was the idea  

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eddie1881 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2017-10-01 11:10:55 +0000 UTC]

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King-Edmarka [2017-09-16 13:51:06 +0000 UTC]

I love this marine reptile kick you've been on; they're certainly one of my favorite subjects in Paleoart.  

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to King-Edmarka [2017-09-27 01:43:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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Evodolka [2017-09-16 13:42:52 +0000 UTC]

so have we figured out how they fed yet?
i remember hearing there was a debate about that, like did it dig out prey under the sand, did it pursuit, did it ambush

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Evodolka [2017-09-27 01:43:34 +0000 UTC]

From what is known there seem to be many different feeding strategies within Plesiosaurs, different teeth, teeth arrangements and neck length certainly played a role. 

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Evodolka In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2017-09-27 10:31:18 +0000 UTC]

that makes sense, can't believe i forgot the key part of "different species have different methods" thank you

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Glavenychus [2017-09-16 13:22:32 +0000 UTC]

This specifically reminds me of this one paleoartist's style, but I can't seem to find the name....

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Glavenychus [2017-09-27 01:42:07 +0000 UTC]

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Taliesaurus [2017-09-16 13:16:47 +0000 UTC]

cool idea

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Taliesaurus [2017-09-27 01:41:55 +0000 UTC]

Thanks ^^

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DinoBrian47 [2017-09-16 13:14:57 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful work as always!

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to DinoBrian47 [2017-09-27 01:41:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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