daanton In reply to daanton [2013-04-30 15:41:44 +0000 UTC]

Guess what?? We cannot even sort the pics within our own account galleries! [It simply spews out an error dialog. ] HELP!!

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daanton In reply to daanton [2013-05-02 02:36:22 +0000 UTC]

Guess what?? We cannot even sort the pics within our own account galleries! [It simply spews out an error dialog. ] HELP!!And by "error dialog" I mean:

An error has occurred:

Element 'nnnnnnnnn' is not a valid element for this set.
Where 'nnnnnnnnn' is a devART SUBMISSION NUMBER.

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ikazon In reply to EziotheAssassin [2013-04-11 19:40:30 +0000 UTC]

Hi there! When you encounter the issue you're talking about, are you on a computer or a mobile device?

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EziotheAssassin In reply to ikazon [2013-04-11 21:00:16 +0000 UTC]

I am on my internet tablet with the mobile mode off.

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grieves05 In reply to Argus1002 [2013-04-10 20:41:15 +0000 UTC]

The sales are going on right now and the Shop will close soon. Today, all deviantART Bags are $25 or you could take advantage of 50% off T-Shirts & Hoodies.

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Argus1002 In reply to grieves05 [2013-04-10 22:18:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay thank you for keeping me updated.

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abeamofsunlight In reply to Ozzyiommi [2013-04-09 10:41:24 +0000 UTC]

You're sooo not alone there. I miss it.

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grieves05 In reply to M-G-Studio [2013-04-10 20:44:28 +0000 UTC]

We're sad the shop is closing too, but we look forward to new experiences and a moving in new directions. If you do consider making a first time purchase, many of the high quality deviantART Gear Bags are currently 60-70% Off. They are $25 each.

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M-G-Studio In reply to grieves05 [2013-04-11 08:44:06 +0000 UTC]

That still doesn't explain the reason behind closing. Was it cause not many people bought stuff? Was it because there were some kind of issues with the store? Was DA losing more money than gaining by buying and printing the merchandise? Like what exactly was the reason behind this decision?

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grieves05 In reply to M-G-Studio [2013-04-12 01:35:30 +0000 UTC]

That is true. Ultimately, there are limits to how much information we can share. However, this was not a decision that we came to lightly and we do thank you for showing so much interest in the product.

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grieves05 In reply to Garassi [2013-04-10 20:46:30 +0000 UTC]

Because of the current low transactional values of most of the purchases within Premium Content, the costs of accepting Credit Cards or PayPal outweigh the benefits. However, as this product evolves, we do hope to enable these and perhaps even some other billing options.

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Garassi In reply to grieves05 [2013-04-10 21:11:21 +0000 UTC]

Alright. Thank you very much for the reply.

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Deorse In reply to StoneKeeper [2013-04-08 22:40:30 +0000 UTC]

I like where you're going with this, In fact I completely agree this. Ever since the day I joined DA I've felt about the same way, why is it always the "same old artists" taking up up the spotlight?

Not to rip on photography, but the front page is always taken up by same 3 works of arts done by the "same old artists", photography, and anime or anime related works, and My Little Pony fan art. Enough is enough. There is rarely ever any other works of art worth giving a second glance at.

I swear that some these photos on that make it to the front page, I feel that even I could do a better job executing them myself and even then subjects that they capture are as generic as the artwork that makes it to the front page itself. Then you've got some dumb half-ass art's and crafts or digital art stupid animations that makes it to the front page, and artist posts a comment down below saying "It only took me 15 minutes to make."

"What The Serious Fuck?" How in the hell is it that these works of art crap strung together with no effort make it to the front page?

So, what these "popular artists" do, once they finally become popular or get a huge fan base, is that they just all of a sudden say, "Eh fuck it, I'm already popular I already know that my shit will automatically make it to the front page, why bother putting any effort or meaning into it?" and post these halfhearted works of art.

That tells me, as a small-time artist that even though I bust my ass to create my own personal master pieces and sometimes invest large quantities of money in certain pieces, that my art will never amount to anything. My artwork will always be buried behind the thousands of same old generic works of art.

It's nice to know that I'm not the only one out there that shares the same opinion about the front page.

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Sarah-BK In reply to StoneKeeper [2013-04-08 14:32:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh there are some bad ones even in popular 8 hours, won't want to imagine what there would be in 3 hours *shudders*

Popular people would still take over the popular 3 hours

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StoneKeeper In reply to Sarah-BK [2013-04-08 15:01:33 +0000 UTC]

Well, yes it is. But not even close to how eyeburning the very low quality things is. Also it would be an option you know, so you don't have to use it.

My base thought about this is that I would want to see a bit more dynamic front page. I mean, we get the most popular stuff from pretty big artists and are stuck with those for almost the whole day.

I would gladly trade all the greater artists for some intermediate artists that is updated more often instead, that way you could find more artists that isn't plastered all over the front page every day.
Popular artists would indeed be on the 3 hours too, but for a shorter while. Again, giving a more dynamic showcase.

If you're interested, you can see my other reply to someone here [link]

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Sarah-BK In reply to StoneKeeper [2013-04-08 15:18:23 +0000 UTC]

I really wish there was a better way to get rid of lower quality art. For a start I would remove all those females that posts such horrible quality webcam pics which their mothers would tear down if they knew were on the internet.

Crap 'art' will always be there

It won't be like the newly submitted I agree, because that has nothing to do with popularity and just floods with stuff. It's impossible to look through it changes so quickly.

I understood what you're after though and I agree. What will change is that there will be more art changing throughout the day. And there will be more changeover - but shorter time for popular people means there is shorter time for the less popular, so ultimately there will still be popular people at the top, and if anything less popular persons like myself won't have enough time to make it to visible portions. Even not at the very top and with just about 400 watchers, my photos make the most of the 8 hours they are visible there.

Then again if I was a popular artist, I would find it unfair that suddenly I stop getting all the attention I used to get - after all I'd be working just as hard as anyone else to get and have gotten my work where it is (of course there are some who just end up popular for some unknown reasons...). Who will draw the line between who is popular and not, you know what I mean? (I know there are some popular artists whose work you can identify straight away as soon as you see whatever they posted on the popular 8 hours page before even checking) And what if through this system you've devised, someone becomes 'popular' and their art no longer shows up on a larger scale because of this? It's a bit more complicated than you've put it...

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StoneKeeper In reply to Sarah-BK [2013-04-08 16:40:03 +0000 UTC]

Well, it's not like I want the 8h option to be removed, I just would like to see an option with shorter time span for.
I have it hard to imagine why the attention you get would decrease, because if you manage to hit the 8h popularity, you're still there like if nothing happened.
I would almost dare to say you could possibly get more attention. I mean if some of your works doesn't really reach up to the 8h, you'd probably still get some sunshine in the 3/4/5/h option.

There is a lot of people out there who deserve more attention then what they get. If they don't reach up to the "8h club" they won't be seen at all, except for the second they're on the newest page. And if they get the attention they deserve in the 3/4/5h, they could eventually reach up to 8h, and later even 24h.
Yes there will be big artists there as well, no doubt about it. But I imagine that it will be more gaps in those the shorter the time is than in the 8 or 24h options.
I mean, in the 24h there is pretty much biggies alone, in 8h not as many. Following that pattern I could assume there would be even less of them in a shorter option.

So no. Popular artists won't get less attention, but lesser artists will get more. And I see no reason why they shouldn't get a chance.

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Sarah-BK In reply to StoneKeeper [2013-04-10 16:48:10 +0000 UTC]

I still think popular people would still take over the 3hr thing too :/ But yes more gaps... but that means less likely to be seen too in such a short span of time.

But I agree - it's amazing the amount of people I come across with astounding work and so little watchers

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TheFancyOwl In reply to StoneKeeper [2013-04-08 12:40:51 +0000 UTC]

There is the popular in 8 hours section, 3 hours seems like too little time, it would be almost the same as the newly submitted...

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Deorse In reply to TheFancyOwl [2013-04-08 23:00:00 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, by chance I've found some decent works of art in the newly submitted section that can out-do at least a 1/3 or more of the popular 8, 12, and 24 hour "artwork" that still can't get many more than 10 page views and no more than 3 favorites.

I think what's sad is that traditional artwork isn't as popular as it used to be. Anymore you don't see hardly any good traditional art pieces or good crafts make it to the front page, and when I say "good traditional art" I mean art with an original subject that is NOT digitally rendered, NOT all anime, NOT all fan dubs, nor it is all photography.

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TheFancyOwl In reply to Deorse [2013-04-10 17:45:24 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree, there are artists that I happen to stumble upon that are absolutely fantastic, that are more realistic in nature and *just for the sake of a simple example* have maybe 2k pageviews, but an artist that has an anime/manga type of style can get massive amounts of views and everything that comes along with it - watchers, faves, and such.

Honestly I think that the 8hr page is the best option that we have so far, but I'm thinking that if there is anything less than that there will be a very frequent flow of work - not necessarily a bad thing, but not a really good thing either. Because of the volume of the amount of users that there are on the site, and how many pieces are getting uploaded all the time, I just think that as time progresses it will become very much like the new page where there are difficulties finding many decent things.

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StoneKeeper In reply to TheFancyOwl [2013-04-08 14:53:41 +0000 UTC]

Yes I know, personally I use 8 hours.
But as I said, I find that the 8h option is always flooded with greater artists, and then you are stuck with those for pretty much the rest of the day. With a shorter timespan I would imagine that the image flow wouldn't be as static due to it being updated more often.

I don't think it'd be the same as newly submitted, I hope not. Because that is updated all the time and has noting with popularity to do, and thus you get all kinds of... Eyeburning things thrown in your face.

The 3 hour part is only an example, it could be 4 or 5 for that matter.
Bottom line is that I'd like to see an option where I don't have to see the same stuff for 8 hours, and at the same time be spared the very low quality things.

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Deorse In reply to StoneKeeper [2013-04-08 22:39:42 +0000 UTC]

Agreed.

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grieves05 In reply to Feanor-the-Dragon [2013-04-10 20:47:58 +0000 UTC]

This is something we've certainly considered. Thanks for voicing your opinion here. Cheers.

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abeamofsunlight In reply to Feanor-the-Dragon [2013-04-08 02:06:11 +0000 UTC]

O___O OMG..... I like this idea!!
And, hey, kinda free advertising, walking around with art, instead of just having it up on a wall.

Man, that would be so cool to have some of my fav art on t-shirts

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TheRagDollGirlArt In reply to Matthew-Fuller [2013-04-07 17:28:39 +0000 UTC]

You can still give out 1 or 3 month PMs to others (I just looked), but you can't buy them for yourself now

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Matthew-Fuller In reply to TheRagDollGirlArt [2013-04-07 17:32:13 +0000 UTC]

ooh really? aww thats kinda strange.. I wonder if its just another bug or something

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TheRagDollGirlArt In reply to Matthew-Fuller [2013-04-07 17:36:34 +0000 UTC]

Hmm... I don't know! I just checked because I was going to renew my PM, only to find out it wasn't an option anymore and I thought to check gifting while I was at it. Maybe they just haven't removed the 1 & 3 Month PM options from gifting yet.

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