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Infinitydragon900 In reply to Hippeking [2019-09-30 18:16:42 +0000 UTC]

Both survive punches that of superman or bulk or jack star any super powered beings that can destroy planets one wants to conquer fear the other wants to destroy the human limitations and than conquer both were in prison in a young age both got experamented with liquids that makes them super strong cough steroids cough one is call venom the other elysium but the differents is that once you have elysium in your system your already super strong and smart like cap.america but ruin is already smart as it is elysium turn you stronger,faster and smarter but the problem is that his muscle mass makes him slow the more muscle he gains and his body would break so they made give him a belt that allows him to control his muscled sizes thats why bullet always goes for the belt but with elysium or not he is still deadly he is able to break titanium and able to lift a building his bullet proof wene elysium is active and survive a grenade in the face but like i said elysium makes him break his limits but it would sometimes destroy his body if to much strengh.

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