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Insanity-24-7 — I DIDN'T ASK PERMISSION

Published: 2009-11-20 11:31:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 1768; Favourites: 31; Downloads: 7
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Construct , Riot , ShadowBlade , RipTride and Clearshot sit around waiting for their new drill sergeant to show up. I wonder who it could ever be~?

After all that poll stuff, we gained a new rule!

5 # DO NOT use other Members characters in any way they would NOT act. READ their Profiles!
And DO NOT use them either without their owners permission!
[ you can talk to the OC's owner to arrange any stories about both of your OCs before using them ]


Now, I am fully aware of the story behind how this rule came to pass. HOWEVER, as no explanation was provided, I shall discuss it as if I was as unaware as the rest of y’all.

Rule 5 boils down to “no making gift art/comics/fics.” If you do not have the written approval to use a character in a specific situation, you cannot do so. You must get everything approved to ensure that everything is 100% in character.

No gift art. No cameo in your fanfic. No background filler. No nothing.

You must write any and everyone up who is going to be in something you do or else you are breaking the club’s rules and, I assume, at risk of being banned.

This is a problem for me.

Quite regularly, I’ll be working on a comic and I’ll realize that a panel would look better with a crowd shot or that seeker abuse would be a funny way to start a comic or something along those lines. When I have one of those moments, I quite literally go down the Club’s list and pick people who I have not drawn before.

Why, pray tell, do I do this? ‘Cause it is fun, really. I enjoy drawing people and designs that are different than my own.

Plus, I personally feel like having a variety of people who are sort of just passing through makes my comics feel more realistic. If I made up my own background characters, then it’d be the same gaggle of folks in every comic. By mixing things up, it feels – to me – like there is an actual big ol’ base full of people that my character comes into contact with and the degrees of closeness vary. Not everyone is your best friend who you see every day. We’ve got big ol’ lists of characters so why not used them? If you need a braggart, find a braggart. If you need a dainty medic, find a dainty medic. It’s all there.

Not to mention that it’s just something nice to do, y’know? I enjoy drawing OCs from people I’ve never met before ‘cause more often than not we end up having nice conversations. It’s how I make friends

AS SUCH, I’D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I DID NOT ASK ANYONE IN THIS COMIC FOR PERMISSION TO USE THEIR CHARACTER IN A PICTURE.

I ALSO DID NOT READ THEIR BIOS ( WHICH IS WHAT I ASSUME IS MEANT BY “ PROFILE ” ) AND BASED THEIR ENTIRE PERSONALIES AROUND THEIR REFERENCE PICTURES.

I HAVE NO IDEA IF SHADOWBLADE IS ACTUALLY A MISOGYNIST BUT I MADE HIM ACT THAT WAY BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUNNY.


‘Cause, seriously guys, it’s free art. I mean, I’ve read fics with Galeforce that were literally so bad I could not force myself to finish reading them. I’m not saying she did fall head over heels for someone’s character and I’m not saying she didn’t. Either way, the fic is out there if anyone wants to try to find it. I'm not gonna pitch a fit about it ‘cause it is free stuff and it makes me happy that my character has got enough attention to get put into other folks works at all.

I get wanting a heads up on anything for serious, like a big ol’ fight or a love story. That I get. Of course, I would like to point everyone to Respect Her Authoritah . I didn’t tell anyone that I was making that picture but everyone involved was really cool about it. They were all really excited and made some nifty art goodies. Just check out the links in my artist’s comments on that picture and you can see that it was fun.

All and all, if someone does something unexpectedly to you , then be cool. Use it for inspiration .

And if you just really don’t want to see your character drawn or written by someone else, don’t join a club more or less dedicated to blending a wide variety of OCs stories together. In fact, don’t even post your OC online. That way no one could even know enough about them to reference them in any capacity.

To me, joining an art/story club is giving your permission to have your character used for the sake of fun and games. However, I am always enthusiastic about the potential for discussion so, please, fire away!
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Comments: 67

auroraxaimei02 In reply to ??? [2009-11-26 17:30:51 +0000 UTC]

She blasted NAILED that face. And part of her personality at the same time. PRIMUS WOMAN, HOW DOES EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH TURN TO AWESOME?!

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firewolf1800 In reply to auroraxaimei02 [2009-11-30 16:17:47 +0000 UTC]

because she IS MADE of awesome!!! XD

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to ??? [2009-11-24 01:53:54 +0000 UTC]

Oh lordie, yes. He'd have to have a really high pitched scream, though

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firewolf1800 In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-24 20:03:51 +0000 UTC]

don't they always

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spud133 [2009-11-23 18:00:55 +0000 UTC]

I understand, I have never been bother by this one bit...

anytime someone use my character...even if its just a background filler or a one liner in a fanfics...I can't help but to squeal with joy XD

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to spud133 [2009-11-24 01:55:09 +0000 UTC]

I know, right? It's always really neat to know someone else out there likes you character enough to include them :/

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spud133 In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-24 17:29:09 +0000 UTC]

Indeed

I need to do that more...

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Bambilove6543 [2009-11-22 19:04:34 +0000 UTC]

OMG I FEEL SO SPECIAL!!!

Hehe, Construct, perfect for him to just have his arms folded, looking away from ShadowBlade's little rant,he dislikes him with a passion XDD

Eee! you can use my character anytime, gal!

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Bambilove6543 [2009-11-23 00:12:20 +0000 UTC]

Special? How come?

Oh goodie! I'm glad you like him. He actually moved all over the picture as I was sketching it out

Right back atcha!

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loverzero14 [2009-11-21 18:53:29 +0000 UTC]

OH. MY. GOD.
I love you for this

For me, I don't care if people use my characters, only if they get the personality right X'D
And you did got ShadowBlade's personality right XDDD
He will say any mean things and get his aft kicked later lol

I have to see what happen next lol!

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to loverzero14 [2009-11-21 21:42:47 +0000 UTC]

O rly??

I'm glad you approve! He was fun to write, actually

I don't have a next planned. I don't know if you've seen how I usually do things but I love bouncing comics/pictures/stories back and forth with another artist. Feel free to come up with what happens next. Or not. Whatever works

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loverzero14 In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-21 23:53:22 +0000 UTC]

He made me laugh so hard X'D he's going to get busted lol

Ah okay! 8D

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Neurquadic [2009-11-21 14:23:31 +0000 UTC]

I agree with this. While it COULD help to keep people from misusing characters--such as that abomination of a fic and that time with the decepticon *coughcahfoihaihgfiashotspringsdaisfhafco ugh*--but overall, we still like getting art.

If there's another example rather than your own you need, take ~Bubble-Bazooka 's recent work. She didn't even mention the thing to me, but I'm honored to have not only 1 drawing from her, but TWO .

However, the idea that we cannot draw characters in an ART club is ridic. :/

But, while I SEMI agree with the golden spark rule, I think it'd be best if we did away with it. It was a good idea at first, but we seem to have begun abusing it. I like the idea of this remaining and ART club.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Neurquadic [2009-11-21 21:39:27 +0000 UTC]

Art clubs should let us make art and get points for art.

It seems kiiiiiiind of obvious to me. I haven't got anyone arguing the other side here yet so I'm not really sure what's going on in that side of the ... universe's brain but I really would like to know.

I'm not really sure there IS a rule that could be made to eliminate the "swing and a miss" pics and fics entirely. I don't really think there are that many to begin with but I guess the club could take applications to ensure that everyone met a certain standard. However, then they'd have to make everyone reapply and THAT would be a byotch since you'd have to tell people who are already members to gtfo.

I think the only real solution is to tell everyone to take a deep breath and either ignore their character getting butchered or enjoy the fact their character got enough attention to be butchered in the first place. Explain the problem(s) and then say thanks and move on with your life

Personally, I’d get rid of golden sparks all together. However, if they reeeeally just absolutely MUST have them, then =artoni had an interesting idea to have golden sparks go towards something not powerpoints. Maybe we could have it where you could “buy” certain things – like, idk, from the store in Mario Party or something – or got to do something or …. I don’t know. Just some little thing on the side that didn’t really matter one way or the other. Maybe your character got to be in the background of something official.

Though I sort of think that getting to see your idea flourish is reward enough :/

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WhiteTigerDemoness [2009-11-21 11:36:16 +0000 UTC]

Pffft, oh man Sarge is going to annihilate that mech.

The stuff him in a dress and ask him "how he felt about that" cause that's just how she rolls.


Crap really? I almost NEVER ask permission when I use someones character. Hopefully no one will check past the standard "This person belongs to this person" disclaimer. If they stop accepting works with someone other then JUST your OC I'm going to (heheheheheh icon<3). The part where they changed it from "any character in the club" to "You're OC HAS to be in it" docked enough of my points already. =_=

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to WhiteTigerDemoness [2009-11-21 21:28:50 +0000 UTC]

He may be singing soprano later

I don't ask permission either, really. I'll do requests and stuff if they catch my attention but, for the most part, I like having my comics be suprises. Getting to read someone's first reaction to what I tried out with their character is fun to me

If I got points for the pics I did of other people's cons, Sargeforce would be given automatic membership to ~Godformers she'd be so powerful >>;

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auroraxaimei02 [2009-11-21 08:17:03 +0000 UTC]

Riot: Dead con' walking... Primus, I'm going to enjoy watching this wayyy too much.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to auroraxaimei02 [2009-11-21 21:26:04 +0000 UTC]

Sargeforce: *goes all on ShadowBlade*

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StarSaider [2009-11-21 01:20:12 +0000 UTC]

cute ^^

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to StarSaider [2009-11-21 21:25:17 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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StarSaider In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-22 00:00:02 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome ^^

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Helix-Wing [2009-11-21 00:37:21 +0000 UTC]

DUDE CONSTRUCT'S NOSE IS HUGE


STOP DRAWING NEGATIVE JEWISH STEREOTYPES

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Helix-Wing [2009-11-21 21:25:09 +0000 UTC]

I CAN DRAW WHATEVER I DAMN WELL PLEASE AND YOU'RE GONNA JUST HAVE TO SIT THERE AND ENJOY IT >:[

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Helix-Wing In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-21 21:59:02 +0000 UTC]

WHAT NEXT?

DOWNFALL AND CONSTRUCT FIGHTING OVER A PENNY??

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Helix-Wing [2009-11-21 22:39:13 +0000 UTC]

MAYBE.

MAY.

BE.

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Argol [2009-11-20 22:54:50 +0000 UTC]

lol nice work.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Argol [2009-11-21 21:24:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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RockyDee [2009-11-20 17:49:12 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha~ Its been over a year for me, and you, in being in the club and this is what it crumbles down to. A great shame indeed. And here we thought more members would be a great thing. Turns out the more members the higher ratio of whiners, complainers, and pathetic little jerks.

All in all you already know, you, and everyone else, has my permision to use Chainclaw in anysuch mannerism and situation as you find to suit her.

Simple as that

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to RockyDee [2009-11-20 22:45:57 +0000 UTC]

We've been at this for how long now? Dude, we rock!

Fun fact, when I was going through the bio lists, I notice there were at least four or five people who had taken their bios down. One wonders why we don't have a higher body count.

I don't understand why you would join an art club and then NOT be cool about getting fanstuff :/

Well, regardless, the Club has set us up some interesting situations that I fully intent to use and enjoy, even if the Club itself has problems. So long as I'm having fun and the folks who part of my stories and/or following along with them are having fun, then it's all cool :3

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creepygoth666 [2009-11-20 17:36:44 +0000 UTC]

OH MY GOD YOU DIDN'T ASK PERMISSION?! I'm telling.

I am SO telling.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to creepygoth666 [2009-11-20 22:41:50 +0000 UTC]

Do it.

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creepygoth666 In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-20 22:45:29 +0000 UTC]

I did.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to creepygoth666 [2009-11-20 22:49:32 +0000 UTC]

For serious?

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creepygoth666 In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-20 22:53:43 +0000 UTC]

Mebbe. :I

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to creepygoth666 [2009-11-21 01:27:13 +0000 UTC]

You should.

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artoni [2009-11-20 17:05:59 +0000 UTC]

If you're referring to the most recent poll with the wank, I do believe the rule came into effect before that. Around Megatron's return.

Then again my memory's crap so I could be wrong on that.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to artoni [2009-11-20 22:41:41 +0000 UTC]

Really now? Because there was a comment on the poll saying that the rule saying that characters with more powerpoints can draw characters with less powerpoints should be done away with to prevent another Darkcrow incident .

I replied and said that there was no such rule, that everyone is allowed to draw everyone else, and that it was silly to have an art club make a rule saying you couldn’t draw other characters. I got a response that seemed a weebit ticked off but the poll got yanked before I responded.

I saw the new rule for the first time after that whole ordeal. I assumed that it was because of that comment but perhaps I am mistaken.

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artoni In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-20 23:21:00 +0000 UTC]

Comment or option on the poll?

Personally I'm mixed on this rule. On one hand, part of what drew me to this club was the idea of improving through drawing others OCs, and occasionally having mine drawn as well - while I've tried to give a 'hey, you okay with me borrowing the character?' for missions, it definitely takes away part of the surprise and/or for a gift.

On the other hand, this is a Decepticons club. I fully believe that there's a lot more scuffling behind the scenes, so to speak, versus what's actually been drawn/written/submitted. I...can't understand people getting butthurt over that, I really can't. Other than OMFEGGGGGGGG HOW DARE U DO DAT TO MY CHARACTER, but I guess I'm at the point where so long as my characters are kept IC/not actually killed, I'm pretty much OK with anyone doing anything to them. A sort of heads up is appreciated, as/is some talking if it's actually plot related, but, as you noted - if you're just putting them in the background for something...

...I don't know. It may be my roots with RP, consent-based and ICA = ICC. The later sort of tinges my opinion on this in that, again, Decepticons; being in the group itself sort of opens you up for targeting. The powerpoints rule promotes being active and getting power through that, and encourages others to be contribute more, and I sort of lost my train of thought where I was going with that but I'm going to keep it in there anyway because I like being Captain Obvious.

/dork

All notes aside, I just thought I remembered seeing the rule when the Megatron journal went up, so. Yeah. Done now.

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ToaNovu [2009-11-20 16:27:09 +0000 UTC]

Meh, I usually asked people if I could use them the first time I put them into something, and then just assumed I could use them again. I do try to keep them accurate to their personalities, but everyone messes up. If somebody uses Bliv inaccurately, I may tell them that he's OOC, but like you, I'm not going to pitch a fit. Whatever. Comic is funny.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to ToaNovu [2009-11-20 22:36:45 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I can totally buy that as a way to do things. Common courtesy, y’know?

One of the reasons that I usually don’t ask permission is that I will literally be finishing up line art and go “uhhh, that’s an empty spot ” and then fill it in with someone in a pose similar enough to their bio pic that I can usually assume that I’ve got them in character.

Or I’ll plan out a comic with just a generally spot to be filled with whoever has a personality that seems to fit. For example, panel 4 was just “someone laughing at Sarge.” It could have been any character who would get the joke as well as find it amusing. Then it’s just a game of finding someone who is a guard that I haven’t drawn and would laughing/giggle.

If I asked permission, I’d end up having to slow down a whole story arc that *Neurquadic and I had going for something that really isn’t a big deal. Your character giggled. Maybe she isn’t a giggler. In which case, I’m sorry I got that wrong but I think I did an okay job drawing her sooo ... friends?

I’ve noticed that some characters are just hard to write in character when they aren’t yours. I know that Aaron had that issue with Axis . So, yeah, maybe your character is just one of those tricky ones so be cool and enjoy the fanluff

Idk. It seems like the rule is meant to ask for common courtesy but kiiiiind of missed. I just wanted to throw my opinion out there before I got in trouble for being like YOINK surprise gift art/background and/or supporting character!

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ToaNovu In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-20 22:41:17 +0000 UTC]

Sounds good enough to me. I can definitely see where you're coming from; you do a lot more art than I do, it can slow things WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY down to have to ask every single person.

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to ToaNovu [2009-11-20 22:49:24 +0000 UTC]

Slowing things down bothers me but having to give out spoilers would bother me more. Any time I use a good number of OCs, there is proooobably a story going down and I may want that story to be a suprize, y'know?

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ToaNovu In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-20 22:53:15 +0000 UTC]

Another good point. Anyway, it still stands, this is a funny comic. XD

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to ToaNovu [2009-11-21 21:24:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It was fun

I just sort of started drawing with absolutely no plan beyond "use characters I haven't draw before and have not asked permission for" and something pretty darn funny evolved out of it :]

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Delmaria94 [2009-11-20 15:34:07 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh he's in trouble GET HIM GALEFORCE GET HIM MWHAHAHAHAHAHA... ahem... I mean in your own time

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Delmaria94 [2009-11-20 22:23:26 +0000 UTC]

SOMEONE's a little enthusastic this morning.

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Delmaria94 In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-20 22:42:56 +0000 UTC]

Heh heh I had too much suger MWHAHAHAHA!!!

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Delmaria94 [2009-11-20 22:48:00 +0000 UTC]

I can tell!

Lucky Charms or Captain Crunch?

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Delmaria94 In reply to Insanity-24-7 [2009-11-20 23:06:44 +0000 UTC]

Tee hee BOTH!!!! *Runs around in circuls waving arms wildly*

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Insanity-24-7 In reply to Delmaria94 [2009-11-21 21:23:32 +0000 UTC]

*sticks her leg out to trip Del*

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