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Description Oh goody! A half-hearted colour pencil drawing of a Pokémon absolutely nobody cares about! *shot* Although in actuality I'm using a Druddigon in BW2 and my opinion has totally changed.
Also that's of course ignoring the fact I have obviously re lit the entire thing digitally because my scanner treats colour like an unworthy afterthought.
But yeah, I've been trying to get into doing more traditional work recently, and my Uni tutors said they really like my colour pencil work. They also said I was being really modest after I explained how much it all sucked. It does all suck, honest! I can't use the things for toffee. So I thought I'd practice with them so that I can at least try to live up to this most ludicrous of expectations. I'm still not sure I'm even using them right yet...I usually use the watercolour variety.

EDIT: Made the image slightly more...uh...'pure'. Also finished.
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Sharulia [2013-07-15 19:46:56 +0000 UTC]

Whoo, saturation! I actually love this pokemon. It looks great super saturated, hehe!

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LugiaUmbreonPower [2013-01-28 14:47:39 +0000 UTC]

This is awesome.

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MadameMinerva [2012-11-25 19:11:52 +0000 UTC]

the coloring is very nice on this! Also, how is using Druddigon working? I've never trained one before, so I'm curious to know

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Jacktoon In reply to MadameMinerva [2012-11-26 13:19:42 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! :D Well, Druddigon's pretty cool, but maybe not different enough for anyone who already likes Haxorus or Hydreigon. It's nice if you don't want to go through all the trouble of evolution, though, since it's already pretty strong and the other 2 take AGES to evolve fully. It's slow as hell but doesn't take an awful lot of damage, and deals loads itself as revenge (sometimes literally, because I use the move Revenge a LOT).

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MadameMinerva In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-26 23:56:11 +0000 UTC]

Hm... Sounds like a good pokemon to train. And I agree, it takes waaaay to long to get a Hydreigon, but I suppose it's worth the effort... However I may try and train Druddigon though, thanks for telling me~

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Jacktoon In reply to MadameMinerva [2012-11-27 17:27:54 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I mean, Druddigon is by no means better than [insert pretty much every fully evolved Dragon type here], it's just, well, I guess the word would be more "convenient". In the long run it's probably better to train something else (e.g. if you're battling in the Super Subway lines for example) but for just romping around Unova's overworld it's perfect.
Oh, and thanks very muchly for the +Watch by the way!

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MadameMinerva In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-28 02:05:24 +0000 UTC]

Ah, you're welcome, I just saw your other works and thought they were pretty sweet too Plus your icon is just so cute X)

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DunnyCT [2012-11-24 20:01:37 +0000 UTC]

See, now I'm OBLIGATED to comment on something because you commented out-of-the-blue >:0 Curse you! I was totally happy with my usual log-in, check essentials, browse forum titles and leave in a depressed stupor before going back to whatever stale activity I was doing beforehand that I had lost interest in months ago. It was a perfectly decent system and you've messed with it!!! But... this is a good reason to I guess.

Anyway. Cool lighting, decent colours, shame it's not finished! Also watch out for messing with Photoshop (or Gimp or whatever) filters and settings. After a certain point it stops looking traditional and starts making you think about the meaning of "mixed media". Also a bit of red/blue reflected lighting by the neck would work pretty well I think! Yep that's it from me.

So. You're opinion has rightfully changed. I suppose you've gone from "nobody cares about it" to "it ought to be put down out of its own misery", and rightfully so? Totally understandable. Some of us use Sharpedo and Arcanine ¬.¬ Just saying. (Incidentally Sharpedo always wins everything but only if you don't mind using a LOT of revives along the way.)

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Jacktoon In reply to DunnyCT [2012-11-24 20:13:08 +0000 UTC]

Oh well that's funny, because I similarly messed up my system by actually going out of my way to post something for once. I mean, really. :I
Also I had a feeling someone was going to say it wasn't finished. Because it actually is. I guess you're referring to the whiteness at the edge, which I left that way intentionally as lighting, but it didn't really work. So, if what you mean is that you think that ought to be coloured in more...I can and probably should do that.
And yeah, I was going to put this in mixed media actually, but I couldn't find the fudging category under Fanart. I swear it existed. I might have just overlooked it, so I ought to have another look.

Also, you say that like there's actually something wrong with using Arcanine? And come on, I used a flipping Dunsparce. Surely that takes all the cakes.

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DunnyCT In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-24 21:13:10 +0000 UTC]

No Arcanine is a cool Pokemon to use In fact, that's kind of one of the few problems I have with using him? It's the whole "hey look a red Gyarados. Not important, it's probably the one from Lake of Rage" thing again. I trained that guy specifically and he has nothing to do with the fact you can catch Growlithe early on in-game. Actually I think using Dunsparce is kind of cool! Good for you. Was it one you'd bred, or caught, though???

Also, avoiding detail in unimportant areas is a perfectly valid artistic technique... but not if those areas end up still looking like empty paper :/

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Jacktoon In reply to DunnyCT [2012-11-24 21:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Eh, well, what else were you supposed to use? For a 'story' team, I usually stick with the first few Pokémon I catch. It's not going to feel much different if you use Arcanine in serious battles whether you can catch Growlithe near the start of any given game or not. I also started using a Growlithe, although I got rid of it before evolving it 'cos I didn't want to waste a Fire Stone on a generic party member, if you know what I mean. I replaced it with a Sawsbuck instead, because that makes sense (read: it doesn't).

And yeah, since I had reservations as to how this thing's completeness would be viewed, I have no idea why I didn't put it in scraps first. Needless to say I'm going to finish it properly tomorrow, take a better picture of it and edit it a bit less heavily. Still, I don't mind. Making stupid mistakes like that is part of the process. I'm pretty sure the lighter side was enhanced by the camera and the shadows playing on my sketchbook page.

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DunnyCT In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-24 21:43:42 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... see "story" teams never really apply to me on re-runs Even if BW2 is a departure on the 'usual' 3rd game sequel! I always train mine in advance. Unfortunately it didn't turn out very well since what with university I didn't have a Growlithe ready to trade in until my Carvanha was in the high 30s XD And I had to completely give up on Amoongus. Which is a good thing I guess since he doesn't learn ANY decent moves until after level 50. Shame though, he would've been fun to nickname. (I was thinking Cyril for some reason???)

You know what is a good nickname for a fire-type, or a grass type that specialises in burning (not that there is one yet)? Scoville. Srs.

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Jacktoon In reply to DunnyCT [2012-11-24 21:56:58 +0000 UTC]

Ah, really? You do that? I always just like starting "fresh". I'll have fun building a team as I go and not caring about whether their stats and whatnot are even any good. Also, I don't like trading too much stuff to myself, if only because it's a bit boring and long winded if you have a lot to send over, because I usually have to go catch a load of junky Pokémon like Basculin so I can do it as close to "free" as possible. I'm quite enjoying filling up the Pokédex again, and it helps that the games Trainers register a lot in there as Seen. I was a bit annoyed about having to wait to reach the Daycare this time though, because to begin with I usually use starters to trade on the GTS. Now that I've beat the Champion, I'm only just starting to think about building another battling team, and I'm gonna get all the Power Items again the proper way, by grinding the Subway like an idiot.

Also Cyril the Amoongus? I don't think-
...wait Amoongus? REALLY?

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DunnyCT In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-24 22:54:48 +0000 UTC]

Yes Amoongus he has crazy bulk when you take Regenerator into account Plus Spore. Spore is always good. But that's out the window now.

I take my games with variety in mind. Black? Basic run-through, get a feel for it. White 2? Refresh my competitive prowess, get to use interesting pokemon unbound by the game itself (irony: Both Arcanine and Sharpedo are available in-game.) Hopefully Ruby remake? Hmm... Standard run-through, but I'm thinking maybe I'll hatch a single egg from my Ruby's Swampert and use that instead as a starter :0 Yeah gonna do that.

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Jacktoon In reply to DunnyCT [2012-11-24 23:24:31 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but Amoongus is a mushroom with Pokéballs on it. So...that's the end of that.

Also an RS remake is actually looking less likely. B2W2 crams most of the RS Pokémon into the dex for at least "seen" and also has all the leaders in the Tournament. Gen IV gen V between them have all the legends in them too. I don't doubt GF will do something eventually (because you know...money) but I'm kinda hoping they do something "different" by this point, i.e. not a straight remake. But that might be wishful thinking. Either way I just want more Hoenn again.

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DunnyCT In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-25 00:19:49 +0000 UTC]

My hope is really the only thing worth mentioning at this point. Honestly, I think they'll do it eventually. Don't really care when!

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Jacktoon In reply to DunnyCT [2012-11-25 12:16:50 +0000 UTC]

Um...yeah, I guess you're right...it's not like we didn't already talk about Hoenn enough already or anything.

Oh, and before I go and resubmit it
How's this: [link] ?

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DunnyCT In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-25 12:31:11 +0000 UTC]

Ah! Much better. Could use a *little* bit more definition along some edges, and maybe a slight orange tint on the less important parts of Druddigon to make a more coherent palette, but yeah that's much better. Oh, and maybe emphasise the warm reds and oranges on Druddigon's head while you have access to the new colours. (Access being "on the current palette" as opposed to "have an orange pastel crayon nearby". This is just regular critique stuff, though, not things-you-have-to-do before submitting.

IMO, anyway.

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Jacktoon In reply to DunnyCT [2012-11-25 12:55:18 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'm just glad it looks better, anyway, so thanks for the feedback. :D Obviously I didn't bury it under layer modes this time; I just changed the saturation and levels until it looked closer to what my eyes were seeing IRL (my scanner makes everything really pale for some reason.) I agree with maybe having added orange in places, but on the head in particular, I'd already got to the point where I'd used too many overlaps and the paper wasn't taking any more colour. Although it's something I can bear in mind next time, seeings as I'm hoping to do a few more colour pencil things over the next week or so.

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pouchnoubout [2012-11-24 17:46:47 +0000 UTC]

I think it looks awesome! I don't know anything about how you must use this medium, but it doesn't matter. It looks good.
Bw2 sure was better than the first one huh? For many reasons too. I quite like the team i builded up from it, especially since you had access to many different gens of pokemons right at the beggining. XD

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Jacktoon In reply to pouchnoubout [2012-11-24 18:35:56 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I wish I could tell you how, but I don't know either I'd like to think I do, but I just don't. It's all about hatching the right colours together, but usually "right" ends up being "the most disparate colours to hand." For better or worse.
But yeah, BW2 is so much better than BW. I only beat the Champion a day or so ago, but it took me nearly 60 hours to do it. I think I beat BW in about 20 or 30. The new Habitat List thing got me hooked on trying to 'clear' all the areas as I went by, and I also spent way too much time in Pokéstar Studios I can tell because I have like 300 bottles of Moomoo Milk now. I also liked being able to play through the game with a DUNSPARCE but minus points for it having no Blitzle at the start. I was happy to see Onix back where it belongs in the caves again as well, because you can only see so many Boldore before your head explodes.

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pouchnoubout In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-24 18:42:25 +0000 UTC]

Despite a few legendaries and area, i pretty much completed everything since it beated the elite four twice and cleared the black tower too. But i still feel like keep playing it you know? It as so much more content than the previous one.
Btw, could you explain me that curious love for dunsparce of yours. I always wondered. XDDD
And don't tell me about boldore, i hate every single pokemon with sturdy. And turns out it's boldore's ONLY abilitys. If it's not true, then i'm just really unlucky...

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Jacktoon In reply to pouchnoubout [2012-11-24 19:04:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, there really is a lot to do once you've beat the game. I'm having a hard time choosing what to do first I'm looking forward to making a good team to beat the World Tournament with though. I still haven't been to every area on the map yet either.
And there really is no simpler explanation as to why I love Dunsparce besides "it's just epic". Because it is. It has a very patience-oriented battle style. It was also my only Pokémon I could trust to beat Iris (with ICE BEEEEAM), since Druddigon got KO'd on the first turn and after every time I tried to revive it. :/ Also using Coil over and over makes it a flipping TANK.
Also yep. Boldore is Sturdy-only. Sturdy went from being the worst ability ever to one of the best. It's simple to beat if you have a multihit move though. I always used Lucario's Bone Rush. Although I think Bone Rush might be the only one that's supereffective. Aside from Double Kick I guess.

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pouchnoubout In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-24 19:24:41 +0000 UTC]

I don't think sturdy makes them hard to beat. It's just flippin annoying how you should have beaten them, but because of that, they unleashe a stupid thunder wave and then explode in your face, or use an overkill move, preventing the pokemon you wanted to get the XP to faint. ( only a few exemples of what happened to me) I run away from boldores just cause of i don't want to waste my time. :U
I have a lucario on my team too. Certainly the most powerful member of my team. I'm surprised how the move return have been so frickin useful. XD ( not as much as ice punch tough..)
Well, aren't you a tough little guy after all.

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Jacktoon In reply to pouchnoubout [2012-11-25 13:25:44 +0000 UTC]

Well, the thing about Sturdy is that it's mostly just protection from Special Attacks. Most Pokémon with Sturdy have such high Defense that they'll survive for at least 2 Physical attacks anyway, even if your attack was super effective. For that reason, I think it's way more annoying when they hang on after using Surf or something. But yeah, it's best to run away since they aren't good EXP anyway (unless it's a Trainer's, in which case, good luck )
Wait, your Lucario has Ice Punch? That's a tutor move right? I haven't spent any of my shards yet. I'm saving them up. But it's a good move to have. My Lucario has Rock Slide for the flying types. Also, I only find Return useful for Normal types to use, since it's their strongest attack that doesn't have any drawbacks like recoil. Most other types have better moves you could use instead, unless they only have a few useful attack moves.

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pouchnoubout In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-25 22:12:42 +0000 UTC]

Yes, he got ice punch trough a move tuor. He had rock tomb before, but it was only to deal againste flying type. Ice punch does it better in everyway since it also deal with grass, ground and most importantly, dragons.
since Return isn't stab on him, it isn't as powerful as with a normal type, but it was still incredibly helpful when none of my other attacks could do the thing. I called him ''Master Ryu''
Most of the moves you get wit shards aren't that great actually. Or the good ones will prolly cost all you have in shard, so choose wisely. XD
I also didn't know Magmortar had such a mighty special attack. Add some charcoal and sunny day to your flamethrower, and ya got one bulky powerhouse. XD
What was the rest of your team? =3

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Jacktoon In reply to pouchnoubout [2012-11-26 12:36:29 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Ice is always a good attacking move to have. Have you ever heard of "BoltBeam"? It's a term that refers to a Pokémon with Thunderbolt and Ice Beam, and together they get at least neutral hits on EVERYTHING. So, it's fairly common for a Pokémon to have those or an Ice-Electric equivalent (e.g. Ice Punch and Thunderpunch). Pretty useful combo. I assume Lucario can learn ThunderPunch, because most Pokémon that learn one can learn the other. Still, I agree that Ice Punch alone is more useful for being able to deal with Dragons. Lucario also learns Dragon Pulse naturally, which is alright if your Sp. Attack is higher, although obviously doesn't hit as many things supereffectively as Ice Punch.
And yeah, Magmortar hits hard. If you're using Sunny Day I hope you've also got SolarBeam (TM22). It's such a good move for Magmortar to have and it doesn't have to charge!
And my team right now, aside from Dunsparce, Druddigon and Lucario of course, also has Zebstrika, Sawsbuck and Samurott. It's actually the FIRST TIME I haven't had a Flying type in my party and, by extension, a Pokémon that can learn Fly. So...I feel kind of stranded

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pouchnoubout In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-26 15:37:42 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know the term boltbeam before, bit it's a pretty safe guess to know that the powerful elementary trio '' flamethrower, ice beam and thunderbolt'' is an awesome moveset. XDD I probably have the incarnation of boltbeam anyway, since i have black kyurem in my team. I usually don't use legendaries, but i really needed an electric types to deals the water types. Yes, Magmortar does have solarbeam and thunderbolt to do it, but it's still... y'know, a fire type. XD Beside, black kyurem is pretty cool.
Beside what i said, i also have flygon, Swana, and surprisingly, Zangooze. XD Let's say him and Lucario are ''close combat'' bros. XDD

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Jacktoon In reply to pouchnoubout [2012-11-26 17:51:23 +0000 UTC]

Haha, I never thought about Black Kyurem like that, but you're right, it's just like the incarnation of BoltBeam Although...I think it can only learn ONE electric move, which is Zekrom's signature move...the one I forget the name of but, uh, it does help that the move is better than Thunderbolt will ever be anyway :U But yeah, I don't usually use legendaries either, unless of course they are deemed "fair" in the metagame (e.g. the legendary birds, beasts, golems etc are no more powerful than a normal Pokémon and perfectly okay) although I did use Dialga in Diamond because its probably my favourite legendary. Most of them just go straight in one of my boxes though

Flygon is cool, that's a good choice. Most people seem to find it forgettable after Salamence, but I think it's actually better. Mostly because of STAB Earthquake and Earthquake is awesome. And lawls yeah, Close Combat is awesome too. Definitely one of my most favourite newer moves (if gen IV could still be considered new).

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pouchnoubout In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-26 18:04:56 +0000 UTC]

Tha's what we call a ''pseudo legendary'' i guess. XD Small legendarys with stats just above average in most case. They're fair to use i guess.
Earthquake is definitly one of the best move in the game. Since lots of pokemons can learn it, everyone should be prepared to counter it. Even flying type like Aerodactyle and Gyarados can learn it. 0__0

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Jacktoon In reply to pouchnoubout [2012-11-26 18:18:21 +0000 UTC]

Haha, yeah, I know what you mean. Although I tend to use pseudolegendary to refer to normal-but-strong Pokémon like Dragonite or Metagross, rather than a weak legendary. But both uses are still technically correct.
And yeah, I think the fact that so many Pokémon can learn Earthquake is why an equally high number of Pokémon have Levitate as an ability, or the chance to learn Magnet Rise, so it balances out. There's also the Air Balloon item too. I know they cover all Ground-type moves, but that really does just mean Earthquake

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SoSaucy [2012-11-24 16:52:07 +0000 UTC]

I care It looks great!

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Jacktoon In reply to SoSaucy [2012-11-24 17:03:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very muchly! :D

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SoSaucy In reply to Jacktoon [2012-11-24 17:51:36 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!!

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