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So last night I watched this commentary from MangaKamen about a garbage Digibro (remember him bronies? I wish I could say the same ) video where he rants about Mario Odyssey's graphics.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ1YOP…
I'm linking the video cause the whole thing is a pretty good watch, but it's near the end of it that I really want to talk about. MangaKamen states that Digi disliking the way Mario Odyssey looks isn't the problem as he does have the right to do so, but it's more so the bizarre logic behind Digi's reason for disliking it. What MangaKamen said is pretty much the exact reason why a lot of Sonic fans like myself criticize the other fans for all their bad actions. See a lot of those fans claim we're only calling them out only because we disagree with their opinions or get triggered for them wanting the series to do better. Well for most of us that's not true in the slightest, heck I can't speak for everybody, but there are a bunch of Sonic fans like this that I actually do agree with their opinions, just not the reasoning behind it or how they try to express it. See it's perfectly fine to have an opinion that isn't the same as most others, but if the reason why you think it is bad, or you choose the worst possible ways to express them, then people are going to call you out for it.

Like let's take this post from the SA3 facebook (boy sure has been a while since we've brought these guys up) that complains about Team Sonic Racing, or more specifically this one sprite of Sonic which you can see in the meme right above the description.
www.facebook.com/SonicAdventur…
The reasoning why the admin who says this is well pretty much what you'd expect from these guys, just shouting out how "lame" this is and just acting like they're getting pissed over a sprite work (like even if that wasn't their intention, their expression still makes it seem that's the case). Naturally there are some in the comments that are saying they're overreacting over it, which has once again caused some of the members of the group to claim those people are only "triggered" that they are calling out bullshit when they see it ... no. If all they said was "This art looks like shit", then people probably wouldn't really care what they think, it's the way went on about how terrible it looks, and how they've been treating others that try to defend it that's getting people on their case. Now I'm not saying that they can't try and back up their reasoning why they think it looks bad, cause like having the opinion itself, they do have the right to do so. However like MangaKamen also says in his video, if people think the logic behind your reasoning is bizarre, or you're making the thing you dislike out to be the worst thing ever, then those other people also have the right to question you for it. Also one last thing about this post, I just got to love how complaining about a sprite is apparently good to do, but others telling those same people to take it easy, no they're clearly the bad guys here, and it only proves my point here even further. Real Mature

Now on to the people who only want better for Sonic. Now these people really only deserve to get called out for the "How they do it" part, cause the reasoning behind their desire is fine, there's nothing really wrong with wanting to see a series you like do better. However those people act like wanting Sonic to do better somehow grants them a right to do anything they want, like constantly ranting about the thing they hate, or calling others who disagree with them ... Anyway if people think you're being a jackass over your mission to get the Sonic you loved back, then instead of sympathizing with you, they're going to do the common sense thing to do and call you out for your bullshit. Like imagine if I wanted a local orphanage that was really old to be able to be renovated into something much better, So I decided to rob a bank so I can get the orphanage the money it needs. Now if the cops come up to me and I tell them that I'm only robbing the bank so the orphanage can do better, what do you think they're going to do?
A) Let me take all the money and give it to the orphanage?
or
B) Arrest me and give all the money back to the bank and not let any of the orphanage have it?
If you picked B then no shit, just because my intentions are good, that doesn't make my crime free from punishment. Now the things those Sonic fans do aren't that extreme obviously, but they still seem to have the mindset that because they're passionate about Sonic and only want what they think is best for the series, that means they can say and do anything they want, the way they want to do it, all without consequences. Well it's a real shame that's not how the world works since if people think the way you're trying to get your message about Wanting a better Sonic across is terrible, then they can and mostly likely will call you out for it, regardless if they actually agree with you or not.

My point is it's not what's being said that's the problem, it's how and why it's being said. Like if I agreed with someone on X Sonic game, but felt the reason why that someone thinks that way is stupid or the way he's expressing his opinion sounds egotistical, then I'm going to call them out for it, not because of their opinion, but because of everything surrounding the opinion. And I know there are those trolls that will berate you for your opinion no matter what you say, but they still shouldn't act like anyone who tries to tell them to calm down is just some troll that's hating on them for just their opinion alone.

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So last night I watched this commentary from MangaKamen about a garbage Digibro (remember him bronies? I wish I could say the same ) video where he rants about Mario Odyssey's graphics.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ1YOP…
I'm linking the video cause the whole thing is a pretty good watch, but it's near the end of it that I really want to talk about. MangaKamen states that Digi disliking the way Mario Odyssey looks isn't the problem as he does have the right to do so, but it's more so the bizarre logic behind Digi's reason for disliking it. What MangaKamen said is pretty much the exact reason why a lot of Sonic fans like myself criticize the other fans for all their bad actions. See a lot of those fans claim we're only calling them out only because we disagree with their opinions or get triggered for them wanting the series to do better. Well for most of us that's not true in the slightest, heck I can't speak for everybody, but there are a bunch of Sonic fans like this that I actually do agree with their opinions, just not the reasoning behind it or how they try to express it. See it's perfectly fine to have an opinion that isn't the same as most others, but if the reason why you think it is bad, or you choose the worst possible ways to express them, then people are going to call you out for it.

Like let's take this post from the SA3 facebook (boy sure has been a while since we've brought these guys up) that complains about Team Sonic Racing, or more specifically this one sprite of Sonic which you can see in the meme right above the description.
www.facebook.com/SonicAdventur…
The reasoning why the admin who says this is well pretty much what you'd expect from these guys, just shouting out how "lame" this is and just acting like they're getting pissed over a sprite work (like even if that wasn't their intention, their expression still makes it seem that's the case). Naturally there are some in the comments that are saying they're overreacting over it, which has once again caused some of the members of the group to claim those people are only "triggered" that they are calling out bullshit when they see it ... no. If all they said was "This art looks like shit", then people probably wouldn't really care what they think, it's the way went on about how terrible it looks, and how they've been treating others that try to defend it that's getting people on their case. Now I'm not saying that they can't try and back up their reasoning why they think it looks bad, cause like having the opinion itself, they do have the right to do so. However like MangaKamen also says in his video, if people think the logic behind your reasoning is bizarre, or you're making the thing you dislike out to be the worst thing ever, then those other people also have the right to question you for it. Also one last thing about this post, I just got to love how complaining about a sprite is apparently good to do, but others telling those same people to take it easy, no they're clearly the bad guys here, and it only proves my point here even further. Real Mature

Now on to the people who only want better for Sonic. Now these people really only deserve to get called out for the "How they do it" part, cause the reasoning behind their desire is fine, there's nothing really wrong with wanting to see a series you like do better. However those people act like wanting Sonic to do better somehow grants them a right to do anything they want, like constantly ranting about the thing they hate, or calling others who disagree with them ... Anyway if people think you're being a jackass over your mission to get the Sonic you loved back, then instead of sympathizing with you, they're going to do the common sense thing to do and call you out for your bullshit. Like imagine if I wanted a local orphanage that was really old to be able to be renovated into something much better, So I decided to rob a bank so I can get the orphanage the money it needs. Now if the cops come up to me and I tell them that I'm only robbing the bank so the orphanage can do better, what do you think they're going to do?
A) Let me take all the money and give it to the orphanage?
or
B) Arrest me and give all the money back to the bank and not let any of the orphanage have it?
If you picked B then no shit, just because my intentions are good, that doesn't make my crime free from punishment. Now the things those Sonic fans do aren't that extreme obviously, but they still seem to have the mindset that because they're passionate about Sonic and only want what they think is best for the series, that means they can say and do anything they want, the way they want to do it, all without consequences. Well it's a real shame that's not how the world works since if people think the way you're trying to get your message about Wanting a better Sonic across is terrible, then they can and mostly likely will call you out for it, regardless if they actually agree with you or not.

My point is it's not what's being said that's the problem, it's how and why it's being said. Like if I agreed with someone on X Sonic game, but felt the reason why that someone thinks that way is stupid or the way he's expressing his opinion sounds egotistical, then I'm going to call them out for it, not because of their opinion, but because of everything surrounding the opinion. And I know there are those trolls that will berate you for your opinion no matter what you say, but they still shouldn't act like anyone who tries to tell them to calm down is just some troll that's hating on them for just their opinion alone.