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Jadekettu — WmW - 55 [Chap 4.5]
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Ha glad you are liking it xD
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The best weapon of all: Silent judgement
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You know, I could never get into the Stainless Steel Mulberry books. Maybe I just don't like Harry Harrison's writing.
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Still better than my OC's names
Also, why was "Diamond" unbelievable to her, it sounds like a pretty generic pony name
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Well, Jadekettu already gave her answer, but I think it's logical for Spades to question the name. After all, Diamond did introduce himself (on page 44) with "They call me King of Diamonds. But you can call me Diamond." He never actually said that it was his name.
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Ah, that makes sens too 
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I'm also pretty sure that "they call me" is never used for actual names. Just nicknames, titles, and stuff.
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Well, if so, then that's probably the case indeed
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Oh shit that is way better explanation. I MEAN yes, I totally though that going like that!
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Yes, you just err... forgot the explanation.
You... told it to me in the past and my comment was just copying your explanation.
Yes, it definitely went that way. No, beta/alpha/early access-reader shenanigans happening here. None whatsoever.
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YES! Indeed!
This totally happened, and I actually didn't forget/accidentally just wrote it that way!
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...
Fuck that is a good question.
I mean of course she knew, (almost) all pony names are two part names. Like Pinkie pie, Rainbow Dash, etc.
Fixed it xD Heck yes.
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No, that's a bad question. It's called nitpicking and I'm only doing it because I'm an awful person, who likes to spam with unproductive comments
But at least I see some movement in the comment section, which is good I guess
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Näh I don't think Nitpicking is bad thing. I mean it has gotten me pretty far xD Also it was a funny question
Yeah you started a real comment chain here xD haha
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You mean, it took you pretty far in terms of artistic development or what?
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Yes. That thing. That development thing xD hahah
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Oh... why nobody does that to me then?
Ok, just kidding, I wouldn't like anyone to criticize me because I don't actually care for artistic development, I'm here for spamming people and then not replying them
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I will be 100% honest here: I would (if you wanted to)... But I simply can't find anything to nitpick from your recent works. Like nothing. xD
Ha lol that's how you roll the best. I mean I should too, but here I am acting like I'm le artist here xD
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Well, I could write a book about each and every one of my drawings focusing exclusively on what's wrong with them so I won't believe anyone saying that they can't see at least some obvious mistakes. In fact I think one can nitpick from amazing professional stuff too if they try hard enough and set high standards. So eeehhh... sorry, but nope, you definetely would be able to constructively mock my recent works if you wanted to (don't do it though, please, I'm horrible when it comes to taking criticism).
I mean, I think you're pretty good at "spamming people and then not replying them" too so... don't worry
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Haha Yeah I mean I could stare them hours until I find the perfect joke, but I'm not creative like that 
No but really, I think other people will have so much harder time seeing any mistakes in your work, since they don't know what it was intended to be, or the mistake is fitting (like it's not what you tried, but it fits the picture so it's not glaring problem), so obviously you, who drew it, knows how it was supposed to be will see it. I mean that's how it goes for me so that is something I will assume xD
(Yeah I understand, I mean I want criticism so you feel free, but I know not all like it. SO don't worry I will be asking you first if you would like any criticism ^^ )
Heck yes xD
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Or maybe they're just generic pony fanart and it's hard to say anything interesting about them?
You're right, that's why I'm talking about obvious mistakes. Plus there are also mistakes which aren't actually mistakes but they still suck. Like for example I usually fail on gesture but "pose not being dynamic" isn't really a mistake, it just looks boring
(The funny part is that I'm fully aware that you want criticism but for most of the time I just don't feel competent enough to give any
Seriously, you don't want to know how many times I started writing something and then stopped because I had realized I wouldn't draw anything even close to being even partly as good as the artwork I'm criticizing so I'm probably unqualified to give advice just as much as I am on critcizing someone's grammar in French 
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I wouldn't say so. I mean they got lot of things going on, maybe not something like "10 layers deep philosophical satire of society and us as non-perfect machines" but still things are going on and you get to see part of it that speaks volumes about what happened after and what may happen before. Things like that do give a lot to comment on for a creative jokester
And I said that I don't see them
(I think anyone can give criticism, someone who knows the craft can give more interactive criticisms, while someone who isn't so familiar with the subject can just point out what you can't probably see.
Also I view you as an equal, I don't care if you wouldn't right now draw something even close to it, because it's still a view from someone who I respect and has an idea how things work. But don't force yourself, I don't mind if you don't start writing essays analyzing my work, still know that I want to hear your opinions.
BUT you can criticize how someones French sounds, your opinion will change if you know how French should sound, but doesn't make your opinion of it any less, because (almost) everybody is capable of hearing French. AHA! So it's the result anyone can criticize, but if you want your opinion to somethings others will also agree with, it should be based on a reality at somewhat
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I would still say that the only deep thing about my drawings are those little things I put in the background (like this chicken on my Scootaloo portrait here )
"sounds like the "forcing a mistakes upon your pic"-problem"
Nah, I don't really like this. It kind of sounds like trying to make myself feel good by convincing myself that mistakes I see aren't actually real. But I don't need this, I can feel nice while acknowledging my errors. I know there're people who kind of base their entire self-esteem on drawing but... well, not me. I just have my silly hobby and I want to keep it, not because I'm good at it, but because I need one and I hate video games so... well, drawings sounds like a decent alternative
Maybe... but on the other hand I've seen people giving bad criticism so... yea, I think those unfamiliar with the subject should't give it. BUT by unfamiliar I don't necessary mean "people who can't draw" in our case. I know people who don't really draw themselves but they like art and have developed a pretty good taste.
I think it's more about whether I respect myself, rather than whether others respect me
Moreover... heh, I guess I still subconsciously have a pretty overdated wiev on your art *I'm gonna get personal here* Because you see, as you know, back when I was new to dA, I knew sh*t about drawing. And honestly, when I first saw your gallery I thought you're a professional God super artist. But with time I found out that you're not the best artist in the world and later even started seeing your mistakes. Of course I still think you're a pretty skilled person, significantly more skilled than me, no doubt about that. The thing is, I guess there's still that younger me sitting in my head and saying: "How dare you criticize perfect works" each time I want to criticize someone who I've known since the beginning of 2017 (doesn't have to be you actually, you're just a good example here). Event though I cleraly see that those "perfect works" aren't perfect
No. Crtiticizng. A. Language. You. Do. Not. Even. Know. Sucks. I mean, you have no idea how often I, as a non-Russian Slavic person, hear something like: "Of course I know it's not like all Slavic languages are the same, but you do understand Russian, right? No? C'mon slow Russian should be fine? What do you mean by vocabulary of your language and Russian overlaps less than Italian vocabulary overlaps with Spanish? C'mon, your language clearly sounds like Russian!"
Ok, kidding, it doesn't happen too often. Although yes, I've had conversations like this
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Now that's deep as fuck tho xD
No no, now you get me wrong here. You don't have to think everything is flawless. I mean of course there is mistakes, that wasn't meant to say that they aren't real. I meant like seeing things that aren't mistakes as mistakes. There is a difference between mistake and a problem. Like for mentioned dull pose, it's a problem that can be improved upon, but it isn't a mistake. I guess this was taken little more wrong than I meant it. I myself see problems as challenges and something you may know realize as you are drawing things, but aren't yet able to solve (for a reason or another). Mistake is something you realize after the picture is done, I mean... if you see a mistake, why wouldn't you fix it? But that is a good attitude to have. I should take notes here, I mean I myself take my hobbies way too serious sometimes, way too seriously lol
Well yeah I have seen some too. But I myself welcome every criticism, even if it's goddamn horrible, just because I trust myself to figure it out if I should listen to it. But I get that some don't want that or don't want to be like that so yeah
For you it is. And I'm not going to change it lol, you do what you do. Like I said, I don't want to force you to do critique on my or anyone's work, I just want you to know: If ever you feel like it, I would gladly take it.
Dude, same. I MEAN I wish I was this God super artist, but it's not like that at all. I mean back in the 2017 I really felt like a super artist, but maybe I grew finally up and realized that I'm not like that. Or maybe I'm just hitting a rough patch in my life, but that is beside the point. I get what you mean. I can't say I have the same thing going as most of the artist I look up to I have found rather recently or decided that "This is the person I want to look up to". But man does my younger self scream at me sometimes
Ha yeah, I mean opinion is an opinion even if it's based on a fucking idiotic things. It's a shitty opinion, like anti-vax people have.
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Maybe there's a difference between "mistake" and "problem", I think it depends on definitions but ok, let's assume that. Still, if one sees a mistake in their artwork... there's probably a mistake in their artwork. And if one sees a problem in their artwork, there's probably I problem. You could exaggerate a problem and make a mistake out of it or something, but I don't think it's common for someone to actually do this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ People tend to deny their mistakes more often. I guess. Ok, maybe in some cases the opposite thing happens but I guess it's rare. I mean, I can't think of a single example of someone doing this
No, you shouldn't take notes
Ou, ok, if you actually trust yourself to figure out whether the criticism is legit then I guess it all makes sense
Wait, you mean, you had your highest self esteem back in 2017? Damn, I thought artistic self esteem is at its highest point while person's birth and then it only gets worse with time
It wasn't really about "looking up" to artists... I mean, maybe it was but I don't like this phrase here because it wasn't about people I wanted to be like. When it comes to these group... meh, I see somebody is cool, then I try ro learn soemthing from their pics, then I realize I don't find them cool anymore, I unwatch/stop checking their works, that's it, happens all the time
Also, funny fact, I never actually used your works as a reference or something like this. I mean, back in those ancient times when I started out with digital art I wanted to do this but you mostly drew in lineart style and my drivers were broken (= no pen pressure nor stabilizers = messy lines) so I decided to go for more painting instead and... well, it turned out that your style wasn't for me
"Lol but in the end yeah there is no such thing as perfect"
Here comes the perfect meme:
It's not even that good but memes are perfect overall^^
Jade.
I'm an anti-vaxer.
You've just hurt my feelings
Ok, lol, just kidding. But really, it would be funny if I turned out to be an anti-vaxer xD
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Yeah you are right
Haha yeah feel that. Well I can still take notes xD I mean I pretty much go to the same path but more or less: "I'm wasting my time, this is not leading me anywhere, so why do I do this". And then my nihilism kicks in and I go "Yeah fuck it, nothing matters so I will just continue enjoying this shit" and then I do nothing for like 3 days and feel bad about that too lol xD haha
No but yeah everyone is full of their own kind of toxicity, you can just try to be better.
Wow.... I have never gotten this kind of trust. Now I'm feeling powerful... TOO POWERFUL! HAHAHAHA! Kidding. But thanks
Well that 2017 was my golden time, I was too young to understand the world around me, but now that I'm old and wise I see that life just this way, and my self-esteem is like a fucking roller coaster which is taking deep dives if I don't do things that get me to feel like I'm fulling myself lol. Oh man... Now that I write this I'm getting creepily aware of this addiction I call drawing ._.
But I get that cycle of finding cool shit, and then not being interested anymore. And now I'm here like swiping my sweat that you didn't get so bored with me that you stopped answering and commenting to me lol xD
Haha xD That is fun fact lol, I mean yeah my style isn't for everyone, actually I'm feeling that the lineart I do isn't even for me xD But it's cool, I would say your style fits you.
SHIT! ALL MY PHILOSOPHY AND LIFE ADVICE RUINED BY THE PERFECT MEME D:
xD Haha no but that is pretty dang perfect meme still lol.
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Anti-vaxer?
How are you still alive? .-.
Btw, you didn't answer in my stream, so I don't know if you heard me butchering your name and then apologizing for it xD So just in case. I'm sorry. Maybe it will relieve to know that I died inside trying to say your name ;-;
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Ha, I've never even bothered to learn the actual English
I know that nothing matters, but you could become a doctor or something and help other people instead of wasting your time on drawings bu... hah, sorry, that was cruel
Why are you thanking me... I mean, I said "if you actually trust yourself" so... you should thank yourself, I guess...
Wait, if my calculations based on when you graduated from high school are correct, then I'm probably at the age of 2017 you currently so... I'm also young and stupid and my self esteem is going to break even more soon, right?
Nah, no worries, I'm the one who feels guilty of spamming you
Ok, let's be honest, I don't even write to you that often at the moment
No, but still^^
Ou, but you've been drawing in more "painting" style recently, haven't you?
Ah, no, chill man, I can always kill myself if that's a problem
(my jokes are so brutal today, I know, I shall stop
Agh, I'm sorry, my fault, I didn't even know that you talk in your streams now (I knew that you had once on Halloween, but I didn't know that that's a default thing now). I have your stream silenced, because you might have a cool music taste but... it's completely different from mine and I simply can't stand the music in your streams.
But that's actually good, you don't have to worry, I haven't even heard you
(and yes, my nickname is weird, don't even attempt to pronounce it, you can call me Brian or something
Also, you should have simply ignored me. I just came to check what you were drawing, watch you for a moment and I felt like leaving a message in the chat
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I know that's not the point but she actually said "almost" so we can't really debunk her argument unless we show that only the minority of pony names are two part names.
But yeah, you're right, there're plenty of ponies with one word long names
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I mean yeah I know all of those, but that was a joke 
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Well I mean yeah xD But honestly it didn't even occur to me that as a single term "Diamond" would be a accepted name lol
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