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Red-Jirachi-2 In reply to Tsuki222 [2017-04-14 12:27:52 +0000 UTC]

Zamasu is the closest any character in Dragonball has gotten to representing Lucifer himself

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Tsuki222 In reply to Red-Jirachi-2 [2017-04-14 13:18:15 +0000 UTC]

Yup. Zamasu's characterisation, even fit's that of Satan in Islam, and some Jewish versions, were Satan doesn't hate God, but humanity.
There, Satan refused to recognize Adam, considered humanity infinitelly inferrior to Djinn and/or Angels - Sûrah al-A`râf (7), verse 12 of Quran reads:
(Allah) said: "What hindered you so that you did not prostrate when I commanded you?" He (Satan) said: "I am better than him: You had created me of fire, while him You created from clay."

As I mentioned, this derives from far more ancient Hebrew Apocrypha, ie Life of Adam and Eve, which also presents Satan refusing to bow down before Adam. Obiously, Adam in Dragon Ball, was subsituted with Goku, and his meeting with Zamasu, were Zamasu didn't accept his loss to Goku, and the Earth-raised Saiyan's superiority.

Also, the Fall of Satan in the Life of Adam and Eve:
12.1 Groaning, the Devil said: "O Adam, all my enmity, jealousy, and resentment is towards you, since on account of you I was expelled and alienated from my glory, which I had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On account of you I was cast out upon the earth." 
12.2 Adam answered: "What have I done to you? 
12.3 What fault do I have against you? Since you have not been harmed nor injured by us, why do you persecute us?" 
13.1 The Devil answered: "Adam what are you saying to me? On account of you I was cast out from heaven. 
13.2 When you were formed, I was cast out from the face of God and was sent forth from the company of the angels. When God blew into you the breath of life and your countenance and likeness were made in the image of God, Michael led you and made you worship in the sight of God. The Lord God then said: 'Behold, Adam, I have made you in our image and likeness.' 
14.1 Having gone forth Michael called all the angels saying: 'Worship the image of the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded.' 
14.2 Michael himself worshipped first then he called me and said: 'Worship the image of God Jehovah.' 
14.3 I answered: 'I do not have it within me to worship Adam.' When Michael compelled me to worship, I said to him: 'Why do you compel me? I will not worship him who is lower and posterior to me. I am prior to that creature. Before he was made, I had already been made. He ought to worship me.' 
15.1 Hearing this, other angels who were under me were unwilling to worship him. 
15.2 Michael said: 'Worship the image of God. If you do not worship, the Lord God will grow angry with you.' 
15.3 said: 'If he grows angry with me, I will place my seat above the stars of heaven and I will be like the Most High.' 
16.1 Then the Lord God grew angry with me and sent me forth with my angels from our glory. On account of you we were expelled from our dwelling into this world and cast out upon the earth. 
16.2 Immediately we were in grief, since we had been despoiled of so much glory, 
16.3 and we grieved to see you in such a great happiness of delights.
16:4 By a trick I cheated your wife and caused you to be expelled through her from the delights of your happiness, just as I had been expelled from my glory." 
17.1 Hearing this, Adam cried out with a great shout because of the Devil, and said: "O Lord my God, in your hands is my life. Make this adversary of mine be far from me, who seeks to ruin my soul. Give me his glory which he himself lost." 
17.2 Immediately the Devil no longer appeared to him. 
17.3 Adam truly persevered for forty days standing in penitence in the waters of the Jordan.

So indeed, Zamasu is VERY similar to the version of Satan from Life of Adam and Eve and Quran. 

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