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Model: AleksandraStylist: Aleksandra Janduła
Makeup: Magdalena Pietrzak
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She is ugly for a black girl, maybe the photo is too edited or something..
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It would be so much better without that lame retouch. Or if at least if retouch was done by someone who is good at it.
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Are you freaking kidding me right now? So now blackface is okay to become a DD? WTH?
And the fact that so many people don't see the problem with this is really pissing me off.
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Get over yourself. People are people, fat, thin, or in between. Beauty is beauty.
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The striking contrasts of light and dark colors are gorgeous, but the editing and execution throws me off a bit. May I ask why you chose such dark makeup for an element which is typically described as light and airy?
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As I sit here reading some of the compliments/criticisms I would agree that your editing around the cheeks ruins what otherwise would have been brilliant use of depth of field, otherwise a stunning photograph. It is also amusing in that some people don't like it because of the racial ambiguity; they don't get it, I think that's the point, "is she black, is she white?". Reminds me of classic Benetton adds that would ask socially charges questions in pictographic form. American women are humourous to outsiders because it seems the white women are trying to be more black, and the black women are trying to be more white, (this is also seen in countries other than America, but in lesser amounts, and in those primarily seeking to emulate American culture as portrayed by media). The model under the makeup could be South Asian or maybe Greek, or almost anything but Black, based on skull structure; if the model is indeed black, she has atypical bone structure associated with that creed, and in other words it's absolutely impossible to tell under the makeup, and THAT'S the point; absolutely brilliant. Isn't that what Benetton used to do? It's like when Russell Brand makes fun of American media for being focused on and distracted by superficial variables because they don't want anyone to pay attention to what's really going down.
Overall very nice work!
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in other words it's absolutely impossible to tell under the makeup, and THAT'S the point
So if the point of the photograph is to obscure racial characteristics to make some kind of societal point, why not paint her red or purple or blue? Why use black in particular? Why not paint her white?
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why not paint her black?
the color black has nothing to do with race UuU
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There is a whole lot of historical context and evidence that proves you wrong, but there's no point of getting into that now.
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If you painted a white woman white, or a black woman black, it would not mean the same; think basic binary, think mime, and the point that everybody is trying to be something that they are not... basically anything other than themselves.
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This is the model from his gallery jendrzok.deviantart.com/art/Al…
If she is African American, she's pretty light.
I don't agree to this picture.
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I'm of course assuming that the viewer has no previous knowledge of the model, or any other reference point.
I just think it's funny (and typical) that people scream "Argg, blackface!", reflexively before they even think what it means.
''Good Sheeple; you're not supposed to think for yourselves!".
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Well, that's why I decide to put up the model's face without the makeup.
I'm not going to into the issue of blackface as this is not the venue to discuss it.
But I will say, that art cannot only be interpreted by the artists' intent, but their audience as well, so you cannot criticize someone's opinion/interpretation while stating yours as more correct.
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"You cannot criticize someone's opinion/interpretation while stating yours as more correct." I like how you point that out. This is not the first deviant I came across as an up roar on whether the artist was aware and didn't care or the artist didn't knew the stereotypes it will fall under. Below I will list some other works that viewers felt were offensive. But I forgot who made them.
Artwork: Simba and Friends in real life.
Focus: To portray Simba as human.
Why were viewers offended: He was drawn white and labeled King of Africa. Viewers thought he should of been drawn as an African.
Artist's opinion: ... No answer.
Artwork: Chinese New Year, Year of the Monkey.
Focus: To portray all Chinese Zodiacs as human.
Why were viewers offended: Out of all the other Zodiacs they were either Asian or White. (couldn't tell it was drawn in anime) The Monkey was drawn as a black girl.
Artist's opinion: ... No answer.
You see whenever an artist draws something like this, and don't respond back to the negative feed back, people will assume it was meant to offend. So we are left with a debate on whether or not this was the artist's intentions. Also you will have the defending viewers voicing their opinions as correct. I just wish other artists will learn from this mistake and give a BETTER DESCRIPTION, on what their artwork is about. 
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Certainly. There ail always be artists/people like this. And it's the result of effective education…or mis-education? But attacking them or even raising the concern does not better the situation, and I can't suggest what to do about it because I have no clue. I'm not a specialist. But people are fighting everyday against it. It takes a very strong person indeed to do it. I took a step into their world one day and commented on an article concerning culture appropriation and racism and I had a backlash so severe that even 5 days after I sent out, literally only 5 messages to the article, I still got hate mails and bullying tactics. Understand, I never attacked them. I merely raised a concern, questioned them.
It's a long and slow battle. They're fighting a system. A system that's not only integrated into the schools, gov't and society, but also into the minds of those who are the victims themselves, and they cannot see it. I'm not sure if it's going to ever be a day in my life that I would see true equality.
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Yes I do agree attacking is unnecessary but asking in a polite manner is better. I wish to one day to see equality but people just want to remain ignorant. Once ignorance is gone, people would become more tolerant and friendly. I do understand what you mean of voicing your own opinion can draw both negative and positive reactions. It's annoying to agree with both sides while stating an opinion because even though your reply is fair there are always that one person who take it out of context. I had my share of hate voicing my opinion's on articles about race and cowards would always bully for the fun of it. So I stay away from debates about race, but I always get that urge to write. LOL
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I think it's more than just them wanting to stay ignorant. It's also that they don't want unrest or friction. That's just how the mind works. That in this current state, they would call it tolerant and friendly. That's why are so opposed (even violently) to those who are speaking of inequality btwn race and social class. And fear also has a lot to do with it too.
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I'm sorry, I am a little confuse with your last comment. I want to make sure we are on the same page but I want to rephrase what you wrote in my own words. Your writing is fluent, that is why I am comfortable speaking with you. I actually love your vocabulary as well. Please don't mistake this as me trying to take your reply out of context, I am trying to understand. Correct me if I am wrong.
Before I start by what I meant by "people staying ignorant" this isn't a one sided story only mentioning Caucasians. I figure I should mention this since that is a top stereotype to imply whites as the only race who are racists. You're right, it is a bigger picture to those who want to remain ignorant. Not all humans think a like but when ignorance do play a role in how one individual thinks, it does promotes fear. They believe that their opinions are facts so they make up fabricated stories to support their so called facts. When I said tolerant and friendly, I think you are mentioning it again to say well they can say their believes are "friendly" meaning not threatening. By "tolerant" they are saying well people should mind their actions because they were raised or taught this.
Than there are the victims of racism. While we know racism when we see it but some would like to play the "victim" to cover up their own hate.
"See that is why I hate (insert racial slur) because they always doing this to us!"
"If we get rid of the (insert racial slur) from our country maybe crime will decline!"
Tell me this Magnius, you have a perfect idea of who these comment might of come from. Are you racist for thinking what race these two commenters might be? No, why? It's the same crap playing over and over. Fake victims of racism like to debate on issues about race to make an excuse of why they hate that race of people. People continue to say, I cant believe it's (insert new year) and racism still exist!" I think instead of complaining why it still exists we as a HUMAN RACE should learn from it and move on. If people want to stay racist ignore them and don't feed them the attention. I understand that there is so much gray area to ignore racists but we just have to be strong enough to ignore them. If that makes sense.
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Oh goodness lol I can see you are upset and frustrated.
Like I said, I'm not really pro at handling these sorts of things, so I read this this morning and let it sit for a while.
You're right, there are some people that cannot be led away from their prejudices. Not even the best activist with years of professional social service experience wouldn't recommend you to do it unless you had the time and mental fortitude (because it will be mentally draining) to put into it—and especially when you're not prepared with solid facts and the knowledge to handle the situation.
The people who say those things are people who refuse to accept that they are part of it. You know, with words like "they" and "those". Like "oh, they're racist, not me. i'm a good person." If you live within a society that has these prejudices (and we do), you are every part of the issue as the next guy who may or may not be overtly racist. That is, we all part of it. I am, too.
I can't explain this without letting it get too lengthy so I'll put a couple links here in which you can look over at your own time. If you want to continue this conversation send me a note
The YouTube video is a little long, but it's worth your time. I promise you.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV-EDW…
www.timwise.org/
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No not upset, I was just confuse. Yeah I would love to continue this conversation. When I get a chance I'll watch the whole video. Dont mean to type long replies, I'm just trying to communicate. 
If you want to change subjects we can.
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Smart not to get into the issue of blackface.
I didn't intend to imply my interpretation was superior, sorry if it appears that way; but that's the beauty of art, for the viewer to embellish and project their subjective reality into it.
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"reflexively before they even think what it means" ''Good Sheeple; you're not supposed to think for yourselves!"
It's hard not to interpret your implications.
A lot of the more popular pieces art in dA is based more on the feeling of the piece rather than the traditional/technicality of it because the age audience. That means there will be reflexive reaction posted. To ask the majority of the audience to look for something more is like asking a person to read a language they've never been taught. But they were taught/exposed to blackface and that it is bad (which it is), and so you cannot blame them for seeing what they've been taught; that's what they know.
Are there people who will going to learn from your post? Maybe? But only if they're looking for it. Others will probably pass over it. Because walloftext.
I could criticize you for your interpretation (based on Benneton) of finding this sort of art acceptable or valid or right because some multimillion dollar clothing company does it, but I don't know shit about art or its history or how it's tied to cultural appropriation and race. But knowing a little bit of general history: just because no record of resistance was raised or action made to a oppose a certain issue does not mean that it was acceptable. It simply means that the voices who criticized them were ignored or silenced, especially when a big corporation is behind it.
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Benneton comes to mind simply as you pointed out, that my cultural biases and archetypes are just as misplaced as today's youth, as those adds were burned into my brain at an impressionable age; the only thing I took away from those adds was to think for yourself, and that anything that stimulated a productive conversation is at least some part good. Your rebuttal is sincere and of sound logic I cannot refute. Benneton adds never justify blackface in any way, but as for reasons above, it's natural for myself to see that connection.
I comment here primarily to positively encourage amateur artists who I see a glimmer of potential, but in terms of the demographics of the general audience, thanks for the gentle reminder.
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I try to stay logical (and to stay in a single tangent). It seems it's the best approach. Sometimes. Other times, it's out right rejected, abused, called a psychotic, and chased out of town. There's not much I can do in those instances other than offer to them my medical records that say no I'm not crazy, really 
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Don't get that impression at all; it's boring to have conversations with people who agree with you, you don't learn anything, and your own dogma becomes more entrenched. It's nice to know that two people who have differing opinions can communicate over the internet in a civilized manor.
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I like this! It's slightly blackface ish... Dunking Donuts got into some trouble for an ad that looked JUST like this... Otherwise nice picture!
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I'm failing to see 'wind' here, because of the very distracting black paint. It doesn't even really look like there IS any wind involved, just messy hair.
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OK, i gotta be honest here; even as a black person, i do not find this racist at all. in fact, i find it beautiful. what is art but a way to express beauty? i think its incredibly hypocritical to say that its ok to paint any color on somebody but as soon as its black... its racist. Blackface was used to mock black people back in the day but i see no mockery here. As long as black people hold on to these crutches, they will always exist and hold us back. let us look at art with open minds and not merely conditioned ones.
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lol I'm not alone in seeing the blackface
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Thank goodness, I thought I was -.-
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haha nope, i believe this is artists and their ultra hard-ons for racially based subject matter at its best, if indeed that was the intention of the piece.
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Trust me, you definitely are not. That's what's REALLY stopping me from liking this. Yeah, it's not overtly racist but it's still blackface, and that's really not cool.
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I do not like too much. Something is not good in the all photo. Is she a black girl? or was her skin painted in dark?
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The model herself is not black, or so I have heard. So her skin was painted in black.
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Ok. Thank you for the information. That is very important to know just to evaluate the work.
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