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Literature Gallery: Chapters and Annotation Assignment

A brief sketch for an idea I had not long ago for the lit community.

I didn't go into anything on the submission side. More or less this is the presentation side one would see as they click on a Lit deviation.

I'm sure most of you don't know that I actually came to deviantART as a writer. It took a few years before I fell into what I'm doing here, now.

I've been meaning to re-upload some of my older work, and it occurred to me as I thought about doing so how entirely in need of help that whole process really is.

I hope this one is actually considered seriously. It could really improve our Lit system by leaps and bounds... and make it FUN to read again!!!

As always, I'd love to hear your thoughts!


-AHiL
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Comments: 568

El-Zarek [2018-04-08 12:35:19 +0000 UTC]

Oh god this is 10 years ago and it still doesn't exist? I saw this today and I really love the idea! But 10 years ago? And still not here???
I'm sad now. This would be perfect if this exists here one day!

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Miandelam [2015-01-14 01:36:24 +0000 UTC]

Great idea!

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JesseLax In reply to Miandelam [2015-02-22 22:08:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I think even since the site has changed so much the functionality is still current and valuable.

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LionesseRampant [2013-10-13 17:57:38 +0000 UTC]

How come this hasn't been implemented yet? This is brilliant!

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JesseLax In reply to LionesseRampant [2013-10-22 15:01:40 +0000 UTC]

No clue! Still keeping my fingers crossed even after all these years!

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LionesseRampant In reply to JesseLax [2013-10-25 20:50:05 +0000 UTC]

I'll keep hoping too!

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mjponso [2013-09-15 06:05:15 +0000 UTC]

As the writer of multi-chapter fan fiction, this would definitely be a feature I'd like to see in DA.  It'd save me the trouble of setting up manual links between chapters.

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JesseLax In reply to mjponso [2013-09-24 15:03:21 +0000 UTC]

Indeed! the look is a lot outdated by now, but the idea is still strong even after so many years. Hope some day it happens... the community outcry for it has certainly been huge!

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dhxjcrd [2013-06-29 10:08:31 +0000 UTC]

Wow! Really well done!
The idea is very simple and very good. This could be amazing to have.

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JesseLax In reply to dhxjcrd [2013-06-29 21:53:49 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I thought the notion was pretty simple, too. Sad that it hasn't been picked up for what's obviously a huge outcry from the dA Writing community in the comments here.

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ManuelMishonu [2013-04-08 08:03:19 +0000 UTC]

Yes, please. This design is simple, innovative, and easy on the eyes. Why do I not see this in use?!

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JesseLax In reply to ManuelMishonu [2013-04-10 18:17:01 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

I don't know why they haven't done anything like this yet. It's been seen, that much I'm sure of.

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XGBlue [2013-03-01 06:40:23 +0000 UTC]

This is an amazing idea, I hope they implement it! Chapters are the one thing I like more about FanFiction.net.

Also, I find it humorous that your DD was given by a deactivated deviant.

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JesseLax In reply to XGBlue [2013-03-25 20:12:31 +0000 UTC]

I'd love to see it implemented, too. I think even while the look of the site has changed tremendously, the ideas are still sound.

yeah... it's an odd thing about the deactivated DD'er, but I've seen stranger. lmao

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XGBlue In reply to JesseLax [2013-03-25 20:24:25 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

Yeah XD

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N0XI0US--GLiTCH [2012-11-14 01:38:44 +0000 UTC]

Amazing! I wonder why they haven't taken this into consideration yet...

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JesseLax In reply to N0XI0US--GLiTCH [2012-11-15 03:16:07 +0000 UTC]

The best we can do is hope!

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KarymesHome [2012-08-07 16:59:20 +0000 UTC]

THIS.
I would really love that dA uses this idea!

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JesseLax In reply to KarymesHome [2012-08-19 18:46:39 +0000 UTC]

Me too!!!

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Arisu-Ami-Chan [2012-04-16 05:33:53 +0000 UTC]

This should happen in the future. I hope!

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JesseLax In reply to Arisu-Ami-Chan [2012-04-21 16:33:24 +0000 UTC]

Yep. I'd love to see it too! Hopefully the very may of you who positively (and continually) reinforce the idea will remind the necessary staff that this is not only wanted, but needed.

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Arisu-Ami-Chan In reply to JesseLax [2012-04-21 16:51:19 +0000 UTC]

Mmhmm. We need this idea.

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FuzzySlipper [2012-04-13 03:19:30 +0000 UTC]

I love the idea of chapters. One of the reasons I haven't posted many of my chapter stories on dA is because they would flood my gallery.

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JesseLax In reply to FuzzySlipper [2012-04-21 16:32:17 +0000 UTC]

Totally understand. Would be nice if it did!

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AmayaElls [2012-03-31 01:02:10 +0000 UTC]

They've actually said they might be adding chapters to lit works... its only taken what, 4 years?

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JesseLax In reply to AmayaElls [2012-04-07 18:43:25 +0000 UTC]

Ah, cool. Where'd you hear that?

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AmayaElls In reply to JesseLax [2012-04-07 21:37:14 +0000 UTC]

Ah not this site update journal but the one before they highlighted the suggestion.

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DaedalJS [2012-01-18 14:46:07 +0000 UTC]

has deviantART done anything like this yet? found it in the favorites of my old account.
it's still a great idea and would be good for more than just literature stuff.
people who draw comics/manga could also make good use of this.
tutorials would benefit as well since you wouldn't have to give everyone a big block of information at once.
sometimes i wonder how this website itself is even half decent with all the fantastic suggestions that seem to get ignored.

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JesseLax In reply to DaedalJS [2012-01-20 23:08:52 +0000 UTC]

For as much attention as this idea continues to receive, I'm assuming they haven't. But I also am not checking up on that as, while I continue to write and support the writing community, I no longer post writing to dA.

I think a lot of other people are wondering the same thing about the rest of your thoughts. Perhaps myself included!

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JamieMDavies [2012-01-14 08:35:48 +0000 UTC]

I think the ability to have all the chapters of a literature piece on one page would put dA years ahead of just about everyone else out there. As would annotations and the ability to bookmark where you left off! Reminds me of Microsoft Reader, if that's even still around (want to say Microsoft killed it years back). Only issue I can see is with load times if there's a lot of chapters, but I'm not even sure if that would be much of a problem.

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JesseLax In reply to JamieMDavies [2012-01-14 21:03:41 +0000 UTC]

You raise an interesting point about load times. I don't think with plain-text (provided the correct unicode set is chosen) it will really be terrible on load times. A great solution to that could be to simply load all of the chapters at first paeg-load, so all of the chapters are already there when you enter the deviation. Then it's only a matter of having your code of choice call the tabs. When it boils down to it, most slow load times come from calls to the database or graphics with a larg-file size. We're looking at minimal to none with this example... so ideally it should be pretty easy to implement (barring security... i don't have a lot of experience there).

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AspiredWriter [2012-01-09 23:28:23 +0000 UTC]

combining chapters into a single deviation is so logical and great that it makes me wonder why it's not so already? i've favorited almost fifty chapters of a story i liked. it makes no sense. the tabs are great, and easy. line numbers, though less useful imo, are also cool. also i've noticed something you put in that you didn't mention and that is the suggest DD on the left. there is no such button that i've found and it is something we need. and if it would send a DD suggestion to the person in charge according to the deviation tagging (such as lit>fiction>drama>novel)

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JesseLax In reply to AspiredWriter [2012-01-10 19:44:08 +0000 UTC]

When I'm in a hurry, sometimes I use screenshots to save time. This was one of those. At the time I was using a Greasmonkey script someone had developed that was the DD suggestion tool you see there. The script worked splendidly back then (it was really f'n cool), and as I recall the script was based on a suggestion that was a contemporary to mine. I'm not sure if it's still available, though. Creations like that need a lot of upkeep with the constant change of GMs and so forth. Based on that I wouldn't be surprised if it was defunct by now... and is also probably the reason why that sort of tool isn't currently in use on the site. Were it purely $taff that were handling DDs, could be a different story.

And thank you very kindly for the feedback on the idea. I'm surprised it hasn't come into fruition myself. Apart from the logic being simple, the IT development shouldn't be too difficult either. perhaps forgiving security, anyway. This idea has been around for a long time, it's holding strong at the top of the pile, and lots of staff have looked, fav'd, and otherwise taken notice of it. While that's no promise to any of us---it's at least hopeful. We'll just have to be patient and wait and see!

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AspiredWriter In reply to JesseLax [2012-01-10 21:17:18 +0000 UTC]

i'm just surprised since i see you posted this years back. since then version six and seven came but not this wonderful feature.

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JesseLax In reply to AspiredWriter [2012-01-12 03:42:48 +0000 UTC]

lol, I'm sure! At a guess, I'm thinking you may be no more surprised than the rest of the lit community. I think at this point dA could write "This is for the dA Lit Community" on a jellybean, give it to them, and they'd at very least be pleased to get something.

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AspiredWriter In reply to JesseLax [2012-01-12 06:01:16 +0000 UTC]

well, at least a jellybean can be eaten

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JesseLax In reply to AspiredWriter [2012-01-12 06:59:18 +0000 UTC]

LOL!! Well said.

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WriterOfBooks [2011-08-30 01:22:01 +0000 UTC]

WHY IS THIS NOT ON DEVIANTART RIGHT NOW?!?!?

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JesseLax In reply to WriterOfBooks [2011-08-30 22:11:47 +0000 UTC]

There's a long line of artists comments before you asking the same question. *shrugs* You'd think something like this would have begun taking shape by now... guess you'll have to write some admins and start asking why!

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WriterOfBooks In reply to JesseLax [2011-08-31 01:20:48 +0000 UTC]

I must.

I must.

If I knew how, I would.

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AncientEchidna [2011-06-30 14:01:05 +0000 UTC]

I think it would be cool if it happens. But it Would be more better if it works for those who DON'T have a Premium Membership.

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Yukiko-berrie [2011-03-06 21:08:47 +0000 UTC]

I'd love to have this, and if you guys would make it usable for the non premium members that'd be a god send. I hate having to use my journal to post my stories! Let's make this vision a reality!

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InklingArt [2011-01-13 02:41:50 +0000 UTC]

The writing community of dA, though indeed the minority, is treated as such. While the visual artists are given updates galor, the literary submission process and viewing can be vastly improved, as you so greatly showed us here. I'm sad to see that this suggestion has been ignored the three years it's been available. Good luck to you

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Chocorroles [2011-01-11 16:43:50 +0000 UTC]

This is awesome, why they still don't implement it? :I

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MariaShade [2011-01-06 04:58:06 +0000 UTC]

You got a daily deviation two years ago yet they have done nothing like this? I think just the chapters would be great, once you have more than three or four chapters no one wants to go to the trouble of navigating your work.

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OritPetra [2010-12-03 07:44:17 +0000 UTC]

This would be a godsend for the Lit Comm. Still a dream, but hopefully it'll be realised someday.

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Endorell-Taelos [2010-09-26 12:21:20 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.. I agree. I love this. It NEEDS to happen. I probably have said it before.

But I ran into a problem. I run a Literature group that does allow full stories in with multiple chapters, however, it totally sucks that you have to submit each of the deviation separately which in return if it is a huge group, it would probably annoy the watchers. If all CHAPTERS was in one deviation, it would be much easier and simpler.

Also. If it could happen, why not also implement a deviation merging into one so all the chapter deviations are turned into ONE.

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onnawufei [2010-09-11 22:55:00 +0000 UTC]

God this would make me so phenomenally happy. But seeing how long ago you uploaded it makes me think it'll probably never happen.

Hopefully someday.

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NixillUmbreon [2010-08-25 20:47:45 +0000 UTC]

Yes! This would be a perfect idea!

I write chaptered stories a lot and I submit them here. This would be an easier way to keep track of the chapters to each story!


I have a few suggestions to add on with this one:


A small check box in a user's gallery which turns off all literature deviations that are not stand-alone (have no preceding or following chapters) or the first chapter.

So, if someone were writing ten different stories, and they had all the chapters shuffled, checking the check box would allow you to view only the first chapter of each story, making it easier to find.


It should also be available for image works too, such as web comics where each page is uploaded as a separate deviation. (Instead of chapters, they would be referred to as pages)


I have also noticed that you do not have "Next Chapter" or "Previous Chapter" buttons. Those should be in there too, to make it even easier to navigate.


On a different note, would you like me to make a couple images around this and send them to you via e-mail? The images would be this same idea, updated to version 7 of deviantART. One would have the add-ins I suggested, the other would not. Then you could submit them as your own deviations. (If you take the one with the add-ins I suggested, I will want credit for the added ideas )

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lycanthropeful [2010-08-20 19:04:57 +0000 UTC]

I've got an entire novel up in my gallery and would LOVE to see it presented in this way. Great work and design!

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