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So I saw this deviation nuclearzeon2.deviantart.com/ar… and I thought it would be fun to try out.--
This comes from a line from the movie Inside Out where Anger sees broccoli pizza (who does that?), and he says, "Congratulations, San Fransisco! You've ruined pizza!" The person who made the meme originally was hoping it would become a meme, with the basic lines being, "Congratulations, X, you've ruined Y!"
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So I decided to follow.
I had this great idea where I poke fun at Tim Burton's version of Alice in Wonderland. Now, I love Tim Burton, and I did like the movie, but even when I was watching it, I had a feeling that there was something wrong with it. And sure enough, everyone else, especially the Nostalgia Critic, have pointed out everything wrong with the movie. So I made this Anger Meme where he yells at Tim Burton for making the movie.
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Sorry, Tim, but I have to be honest, I'm with the crowd here. I liked your movie, but it wasn't your best work.
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Anger, Inside Out - © Disney/Pixar.
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UPDATE:
I don't know how many people noticed, but I originally misspelled "Wonderland" by typing in "Wonerland". So I fixed the mistake.
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Alice In Wonderland - It's a guilty pleasure. But, yeah, too many things wrong with it.
Maleficent - I never grew up watching Sleeping Beauty, but I did know the story, and I did hear how powerful and awesome Maleficent was. But even without seeing it, I feel like this film did a disservice to the character and made her less awesome.
Cinderella - Boy, did I HATE this one! And I did grow up watching the original (I think it may have been the first Disney film I've ever seen). Sure, the Prince is done better in this version, but there's no engagement or suspense in this film, unlike the original, where even if the mice took up much of the film's time, they did add a level of fun and suspense to keep even guys and young boys engaged on this story of a girly girl princess.
Jungle Book - I don't think there's a point to it. The visuals look great, but the pacing and plot elements are rather random and don't really add up. King Louie, though... he'll either make you laugh or cringe, because he's intimidating at one point... then sings a goofy song... then returns to being intimidating again... then in the end credits... dang, what kind of character is this!?
I have not seen Pete's Dragon, again. I did hear great things about it, too. But I have not seen it.
Beauty and the Beast - Yeah it's not the worst ever. It at least seemed like it tried sticking to the original, which made it seem like the least worst. But even then, it did it poorly. It copied certain shots and scenes and lines, and did twists on them... twists that didn't add much and instead took away some charm. Plus, some of the things they added also kinda went nowhere. And some things that they tried to expand upon didn't seem to feel right. Bottom line, it just didn't need to exist.
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I remembered this meme, and the Care Bears thing popped into my head. And it worked too well.
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I saw the teasers of the upcoming Looking Glass film. I thought it did look interesting, but it's coming from a famous children's story that feels like an absolute mind-f***. At least the made for TV version that had Beau Bridges, Lloyd Bridges, Harvey Coorman, Ernest Borgnine, and Carol Channing made me feel not too "confused-crazy" like the first part. But I bet you 10 dollars those bastards: Doug Walker and Matt Brunett are already going to rant on the film just when the trailer. And if they do, I'm going to give them something they really deserve....
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Yeah, it does kinda look interesting. I might go watch it. But even then, I'm guessing they might go the route of the first movie and try to give logic and emotion to a world that doesn't need it. So, yeah, I will go in with low expectations.
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And yeah, it is based on a children's story that IS an absolute mind-f*** because that's what it's SUPPOSED to be.
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Never heard that version.
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Well, yeah, of course they may rant on it, because they know the first film doesn't follow the book closely at all as it completely changed it into something it's not. Who knows if the sequel may do some things better or if it will keep the tone of the first film the same, thus making it worse or the exact same?
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I think was the 1985 made for TV version I'm thinking of. Though you did say you enjoyed the first film, why have low expectations? Well maybe your comment does explain it. Well if those 2 bastards do, I'm giving them something they deserve: PAYBACK! Especially since they make themselves look like absolute loonies. They keep saying all that critic garbage(Like Plot Development this, Character Development that, 1/2/3 Dimensional characters, phoned in, hammered in, if it adds up, barely a plot. They say it all but they never explain what all of that means or what any of that crap means. At least Screen Critique or Savage Broadcast gave me kind of an understanding on it.) that anybody who hasn't taken English or Film class would have any understanding on what they are saying, and like I said, they would think they are crazy. I know NC's not for kids because of the swearing, but AniMat's show can be for kids depending on the content he's talking about, and he can at least give a damn explanation! I took English class and Literature and Film Class at High School, and I wasn't taught any of that crap. I had a better understanding of foreshadowing, irony, flashback, or symbolism because at least the stories we read gave us an understanding. (Sighs) I know that's a lot out of me, but I need to let my thoughts out.
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I did enjoy the first film. However, seeing how it didn't follow the book AT ALL, I doubt the sequel will, either. In fact, Doug Walker posted an image of the new Alice movie mixed with a picture of crying Alice from the classic Disney movie, with her shouting "HASN'T ANYONE READ THE BOOKS?" As far as I know, he must be pretty upset that the new film, from the looks of the trailer, doesn't follow the book at all. I haven't read it, but I can tell by other sources that this film is gonna go out of its way to be nothing like the original source material at all. So I won't expect it to be anything grand or goofy as it seems to be taking itself too seriously.
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And how are you gonna give them "payback"?
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Well, they ARE critics, so this is all stuff that has to be kept in mind when watching a movie, because it all relies on how well-structured a film is. If it all works, then it's a good film. If some of it works, it's okay. If barely any of it works, it could be a guilty pleasure or it could be bad. If NONE of it works, it's not a well-made film at all. Also, there's the fact that it must be faithful to its source material, which apparently the first Alice film wasn't. Even then, a film can let you know that it doesn't follow its source material closely just to deliver a whole new experience, like Frozen, which was loosely based on the Hans Christian Anderson story The Snow Queen even though it barely resembles the story at all.
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Well, they never explain any of it because they assume anyone who watches them ALREADY KNOWS what that stuff is. If nobody understood any of that stuff, why are they listening to any critics at all in the first place? I actually learned about these things by watching him, so in every new review, I kept an open mind with whatever they were trying to explain was bad in a film.
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Where is that picture? If you are wondering by "payback", I mean give them their just deserts. And well I don't really see that with all the critic terms. Sure AniMat did do that video on Hotel Transylvania on explaining why he feels going too cartoony in CGI doesn't work, but that's about it to me. And I feel they should give some explanations on what they are saying, because like I said, there are going to be a lot of people who haven't taken a film class or criticism. I used to watch them for entertainment, not to be thinking films are like homework. Sure it's nice we can learn something important from it, but we don't want it forced to think that movies are like textbooks! With NC I can't understand what he is talking about everything that's in his videos. Because he looks like a stereotypical nerdy idiot, he sounds really irritating, and his presentation with his HD cinematography and dramatic-ness is just so awful. I know the last part may be on purpose, but I does not work. Besides it makes him look so idiotic that it makes real Hollywood more professional, which Hollywood is!
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Here's the link to the picture: scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/h…
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Deserts?
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Like I said, if you're gonna see his stuff, you HAVE to know what that stuff is! Otherwise, why are you watching reviews in the first place? Maybe people who don't know about that stuff don't CARE about that stuff and just wanna see a movie and not judge it at all (which so happens to be most of my closest friends outside of school). People who watch reviews to see how others critique a movie might as well already know what that stuff is, so they can see the critical viewpoint of the person reviewing a movie.
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If you can't understand him, why do you even bother watching him? You're turning into a prime example of this one video he made where "there are people looking to offend and there are people looking to be offended". You seem to be watching him just to get angry at him.
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Actually, he is a character, kinda sorta meant to be a stereotypical nerdy idiot, but he knows it and has fun with it.
And you may have a point on Hollywood looking more professional, but that's because Hollywood has BIG budgets, so they have enough money to make their films look realistic and impressive. NC has nothing near a Hollywood budget at all, so you can't blame his stuff for looking weak and crappy. He's just trying to do his best, and people can respect that. They do get the jokes. At least he puts love and passion into what he does, and it shows, even if it's not perfect.
Though, yeah, I do think his sketch videos are getting a tad bit old as we only want reviews and not as much mockery of the movies he reviews. But hey, at least it's not the first time he's done it.
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And on a side note, Hollywood MAY LOOK professional, but look is one thing; execution is another, and even films that look great can have bad outcomes.
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I'm sorry, but I don't buy that he puts passion into his reviews. Some people I talked to who used to like him but not anymore feels like he's just doing it for money out of his own greed, especially with that Indigogo project he did just so he can get equipment by asking his fans for money to pay his stuff! Yes I know some is to pay bills and he gave them rewards, but that's doesn't seem right to ask for money from your fans for something you can pay for your own money, seems really wrong to do that! Thanks for the link, and here's my links on some reactions to one of his or his brother Rob's posts. Wow...thanks for talking down to your audience, Rob just being Mr.Douchebag… Winnie the Pooh was done in live action many times before, Rob you idiot! Like…
The face-palm in real is at Rob for saying that insult! I feel the real evil…
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I had a feeling someone would say that (that he's just doing it for money). Well, he DOES need a job, and he'd rather have a job where he likes doing what he does best. So of course he would do it for money, but also he does it because he loves doing it.
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Did he really ask people for money? Can I see a link to that? Because I don't remember that part.
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I think that "fan" might need to get a better life, depending more on watching whatever these people do/say.
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I know he needs a job, but not this, because I hate him even more when he posts a new video with himself. I wish he'd stop do this film critic business and I wish the people who follow him realize he's just a stupid waste of time.(That'll be one wish I'll make if I was at a fountain.) And here's the link for you, www.indiegogo.com/projects/cha…
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Hey, he's just trying to make us smarter by realizing what is bad about a movie. Besides, he reviewed some movies I myself liked and explained why they were bad, yet I still liked the movies despite the badness in them. So it's all a matter of opinion. Plus, I do find a lot of his jokes hilarious.
And again, he's doing what he loves to do. What's better: working at a job where you love what you're doing or working at some place you hate and wish you were doing something else?
And I do believe it's pretty clear he loves what he does, putting the majority of his time and energy on make-up, costumes, and the green-screen to make his jokes and skits come out "perfect", mocking the material in a bad film while also having fun with it.
(Though, yeah, I also believe he has gotten a little greedy with his special effects. Sometimes I get the impression that he's secretly just showing off his effects to the people, like "Look at this! I can do this effect now! Isn't that cool?")
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I think that video was meant to be a joke as well as a message. See how he's delivering his message in a rather awkward manner that makes him sound confident in the fact that his awkwardness will somehow get him money? Yeah, that was just a big joke. But he at least did also manage to deliver what he said he would do with the money. There was a video where he explained that many people did send in money and that he's grateful for it and that he did put that money to good use. That and now he's also giving charity shout-outs for people to help with and donate to.
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No, he is not making us smarter! I feel like he's more like turning this generation into cynical drones with painfully unfunny jokes that make me feel he's treating the audience like their idiots, like those bastards at Channel Awesome. I feel like he needs to stop because he needs to know how much pain I've gotten from his junk. His enjoyment of reviewing is more like torture. Besides I remember when AniMat was doing a review on that Trey Parker and Matt Stone puppet movie "Team America" he said he feels "everyone in the world is all idiots," or something like that. I know that's meant to be a joke, but that really made me feel "That's it. I'm done with you AniMat. We're not friends anymore( Even if I wasn't like by him to begin with)!" It makes me feel who's really treating the audience like idiots is not Hollywood but the critics. Especially with the Facebook posts Rob made that made me feel, that they love to think those people who watch the videos are stupid, AKA talking down to us!
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I'm afraid to say this, but you've got it all wrong. You're just angry because you can't handle opinions and criticism. Plus, you're also on a website that also involves comments and criticism: DeviantArt. All art, whether perfect or not, also involves criticism because it has people talking about what they like/don't like about a piece of work. And the critics know about what makes great art, which is why they give their reviews and rate something high up or claim it as not so good.
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So you're saying they're talking down to us as if we were stupid? Didn't you say a while ago that you couldn't understand what character development, plot, exposition, and all that other stuff was because he never explained it? If he were to dumb it down, why would he use such advanced words and subjects that kids don't understand yet?
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And about the viewers watching the videos being stupid... you could argue that WE ARE. Really think about it: there are many people in this world that happen to like bad movies and think they're actually good, even though they don't explain why they think they're good. Believe me, I have tons of friends who watch a whole lot of bad movies, and they say they're good, even though those movies make me cringe. My brother recently started watching NC videos with me, and even he laughs at them while also seeing the points made on bad movies. And he has also listened to me brag about how The Cat in the Hat is a bad movie when he and his friends thought it was good, yet he also knows I like the movie despite it being bad.
By watching the NC videos, we laugh at how he makes fun of the movies we watch and then we start thinking about the points he makes in the reviews, which make us put the pieces together and start thinking whether the movie holds up or not. I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I do laugh at stupid things, yet the NC somehow made me feel smarter. I see his points and I apply the same stuff to other films I watch, so now I am part critic as well.
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Bottom line, if you don't like him, or anyone at Channel Awesome, then just LEAVE THEM ALONE! Stop looking at their videos! Go enjoy what you like and leave the reviewers alone. If you keep watching them and keep getting offended, then you're just a person looking for trouble.
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Well yes I did, and I do have autism like you. I know that's a lot out of me in this discussion, but I still feel people who watch Doug's stuff are wasting their time. Let's just end it before it gets any worse.
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Okay.
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On a side note, I used to hate him before, but then I found a real liking to the stuff he did.
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I'm on the other side and i met some people who were a bit like me: Liked him at first but over time I lost it.
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Well, good for them. At least he's not bothering them anymore. Or maybe he "ruined" some movies they liked that prompted them to leave.
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Well he's still bothering me. Show makes us smart, my ass! All that critic nonsense is just making me confused and feel like I'm not really learning anything. Besides in English class in Bennington Community College last summer, most of us(which also includes some adults, other than kids who are 18,19, and in their 20s) couldn't understand any of that crap. And my teacher, Laura Mack, gives me this phrase that basically sums up how I feel about all this: Speaking Chinese. Which basically means though the person is speaking English, it feels like they are speaking a foreign language. Also goes to Joey Todesco and JoBlo Movies(sounds like he's speaking on Novocaine), Rebel Taxi(who sounds like he's on constipation) and Mysterious Mr. Enter and Movie Bob(who speak way to fast and sound like they are speaking a foreign language.
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You know, from my observation about you, you just seem to be getting angry over things you don't understand. Your anger seems to be triggered due to critics and their reviews and analytical points. You say you don't understand that stuff, and you happen to get angry by it, mostly out of frustration of not understanding what they're saying. Maybe watching critical reviews isn't the best thing for you. May I suggest not watching them anymore?
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In fact, how old are you?
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19 years old, and maybe another suggestion is to figure out what that stuff means by taking a literature and film class in community college.
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Yes, that's another suggestion. I learned about that stuff back in school, so I was able to understand it when I heard the critics talk about it. Maybe if you do the same, you will understand their viewpoints much better.
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Why not try dictionary.com? Look up the terms and their definitions and then maybe you'll understand the critics' terms much better. Or maybe Wikipedia, even if I know it's not that reliable a source.
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Funny thing is, I better understand what phoned in, pointless, forced and filler in Doug Walker videos instead in actual films and TV shows.
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Wait, what? Can you repeat that again? I don't know if I misread it or if you used different words...
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It was something that I had in my head, but didn't think of it at the time. Yes you've heard me, besides I for got to say forced in your face is what I better understand in Doug Walker videos, because boy.... does he really like to hammer it in.
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Well, he's trying to bring out the obvious-ness of bad movies. There are those who like certain bad movies but don't really know how bad they are, and he tries to make you realize the problems by drawing more attention to it, as well as addressing how angry he gets at these certain elements.
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Well that obviousness isn't really funny, more like annoying and treating us like we are idiots and we are easily forgetful. WE GET THE POINT DOUG! STOP FORCING IT IN FRONT OF US!
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Well, aren't we actually idiots at times? Believe me, I have friends who look at something considered REALLY BAD... and they seem to think it's good/funny/smart. There are times where I wish I could just show them how terrible what they like really is. This guy does the job for me.
It's mostly due to the fact that people wouldn't listen unless they made the subject interesting, which is what Doug does by adding different styles of comedy in his reviews. People like comedy, so they would watch his stuff. They might find it funny at first, but then they also think about it, and they start agreeing with his point of view.
Or, just like other regular human beings, everyone has an opinion on a certain thing, and they may still like what they like despite the badness. I myself like a bunch of movies he has reviewed, including Alice in Wonderland, despite how horrible he said they are. As long as someone acknowledges something for not being so good, I can accept if they like them.
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Yes, I know you like the Burton Alice, and I'm fine with that, as I myself like it despite how it is. However, you seem to take it in as something it's not supposed to be and you claim that it is SUPPOSED to be that way. That and you're judging the judge yourself. Yes, Doug may not always be right; he has three F-Up videos where he addresses the mistakes he has made in the past. But I'll have you know that he tries to make a point just so people understand. And if you find it annoying, then simply... DON'T WATCH HIM! Watch a more dignified critic, like Renegade Cut. Doug's thing is Critic Comedian, because he does use analysis while applying comedy to make his reviews more interesting and gripping than boring.
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Well I like a good laugh. And if I wanted something that give me a good point without feeling like I've treated like I'm stupid, I would watch Simpsons or Family Guy or any prime-time show that can teach us life lessons, I would add Robot Chicken but the Jason vs. Godzilla skit they did made me feel a bit annoyed. I would've watch Renegade Cut, but since I found out he's from what Doug Walker was from, I avoided it. Like I said, I fortunately don't watch his videos, but everytime I go online, watch a film, or a YouTube video, I always have that painful feeling that this real hack would pop up and keep deluding everybody into his shtick.
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Just because he's from that site doesn't mean he's just like Doug Walker. He digs deeply into films and gives great analysis and finds deeper meanings in movies. He's really inspiring and interesting to listen to.
And there's also Christ Stuckmann.
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Don't prejudge something without having seen it. I know, I also often pre-judge some things, but I do end up watching the stuff for myself and judge it on whether or not it was worth my time.
From what I can gather, you seem to be good on comedy and criticism, but somehow you can't stand both of them combined together.
Besides, Doug doesn't hate EVERYTHING. He likes Transformers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Batman, Mad Max, Gravity, Ren and Stimpy, half of the Disney Afternoon, and those films he had deep analysis of in some of his reviews. So as much as he has stuff to rant on or make fun of, there are things he appreciates. I, too, used to think he was nothing but a hater, until I looked at more of his stuff and found out he wasn't so bad at all.
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Well since I've seen only 3 other people, minus Doug and his crew. Cinema Snob, Lidsay Ellis/Nostalgia Chick, and Some Jerk With the Camera. Snob and Jerk at least are tolerable to look at, and Lindsay and Jerk's voices aren't as irritating. But these still have some problems. Cinema Snob's Too Smart For Strangers and The Man Who Saves The World and Some Jerk's Country Bears problems are they both have really forced jokes, and Lindsay is that she looks like a what PMRants calls a "boobtubers" and looks like she's understanding what she says though in reality she has no idea what she;s saying at all. Yes I know not everything is a rant, but he always makes himself look like a super hyper fan-girl(Especially with his face looking so awkward looking and uncomfortable to look at) and overpraises it to hell like it's the freaking bible. Yes the shows he reviews are good, but don't treat it with too much hype and praise or else people will think it's overrated.
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Well, again, they want to make their reviews more interesting and not boring. So they throw in these jokes that people will understand because, in context with what they're reviewing, they make sense, so they provide a little entertainment while also emphasizing their points. Same thing Doug does. And the people love it. Some have confessed that they do like seeing the torture and him get angry because they get a laugh out of it.
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You might see him as annoying, but maybe because you're distracted by how much and how loud he yells and the faces he makes. He is just giving his reactions to the film, letting it impact him in an uncomfortable way. Try really thinking about it? If a movie were to impact you in such a bad way, wouldn't you have reacted the same way?
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I mean, sure, it's a movie; it's not the end of the world. But a movie could have a strong impact on someone. So it makes sense for the character of Nostalgia Critic to act this way, realizing how badly a movie could make the audience. And again, I have had experiences with friends who thought the movies they watched were good when they were really bad. And I myself knew when a movie was bad. Great example: The Cat in the Hat.
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Again, if you don't like seeing him and what he does, simply DON'T watch him.
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Well if you want to see humor done better in a review and don't make the jokes feel forced, I go with Balena Productions(Though they are not really always reviewers) and Morgan Leger because it's more subtle and not in your face. And they at least they are both on my side. Well Morgan does still like his editorials but does admit he is jumping the shark with his reviews.
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Okay. I've seen a few Balena Productions. They are pretty good. But honestly, that's just HIS style. Some slow, subtle humor. That's his/their thing. NC is different. He loves doing the over-the-top humor. A lot of people like that.
I know you don't. And that's the thing, everyone has their own likes and dislikes. So I guess if you like Bela Productions so much, go watch that instead. Don't watch any of Doug Walker's stuff, for there's an audience for that, and you aren't in it.
Just know that it may be pointless to bring up the argument when there are different likes and dislikes between certain people. You find something you don't like... DON'T look into it. Unless you're trying to make a difference and change the errors of that certain thing. But otherwise, if there's an audience for it, don't bother arguing this certain thing. Go enjoy what you enjoy and leave all the arguments out.
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But I've seen better over the top style humor in actual films and TV, but Doug's just doesn't cut it.
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Like the Grinch, or Impractical Jokers. I completely forgot to mention that another show that I would watch that is funny but teaches a lesson would be Mad TV.
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Are you sure? I wouldn't say that the Grinch is the best example of an overactor giving a good performance. Especially since the film was meant for kids yet got a PG rating.
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Mad TV? That Cartoon Network show?
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Why? Do you hate that film like NC? And no,no,no, I meant the on that was made by Fox and Comedy Central.
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No. I don't hate it. I mean, I now see the problems with it, but I now don't really consider it that great a film any more. I would still watch it whenever it's on, though. I'd just consider it a guilty pleasure.
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Then I guess I've never heard of it.
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We'll I've made a playlist of some skits I like on my YouTube account. So you might as well take a look: My Favorite Mad Tv Skits - YouTube
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You know... I think the NC really is on par with these examples you're showing me. I barely see a difference.
I think it may just be the blend of jokes and criticism that gets to you.
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Yeah. I think that may be it.
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