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Sarmizegetusa is the old capital of Dacia, a roman province, actual Romenia. Kaïn Tissierus is a legionnair that will fight on the Roman Army (Legion) during the Dacic Wars that took place between 100 ~106 A-DOn this pic, I triyed to be the most accurate that I can historically speaking. His weapon on the right hand is a Falcata, an Iberic sword, plus is traditional Gladius. They didn't use the falcata this way, okay? His Cigilum (the belt with the "decorations" that fall from it) is a simple one. About the "Murus Dacicus" thing. Simply the architectonic style from Dacia. This is a fortress, so I couldn't draw as much details as I wanted to draw... Because of that, I've added some more things, like the torchs, for example.
I'm not quite happy with this pic, It seems to me that it lack something...
And sorry about this sky x__x I simply don't have the skills to do better
About the hair: well, I think I'm improving that part of my way of drawing, it's not quite it, but I'm getting nearer. Oh, just one more thing: why on earth Kaïn have white eyes?! Me and my stupid ideas
See ya, I think I'm ready now to draw another one "fully detailed" as I like,
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I would love to use this charachter for an anime
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I'm loving how you drew the falcata. And again, the detail you put into your pieces! Simply amazing.
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VERRY COOL! Only one thing, Roman men had short hair in there culture...
They also invented the "military cut" very very short hair or shaved off; its so the enemy can not pull it in battle...
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He looks lovely with his bright eyes, and the uniform is great. Though I would loved to see a dacian uniform. Is he Dacian?
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hmm what kind of sword is that since its clearly not a Gladuoes Esapion(sp I suck at spelling 
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It's a falcata, a sword celtiberians used, and after them, romans, but he is holding it backwards
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Nice picture, I typed in segmentata and round it, not expecting to find anything. I'm not history major, so i'm not gonna go into any details about the armor or architecture which I'm sure people have already commented those to death already since last year on this pic.
The only glaring innacurracy to me is the sword. I dunno if anyone's mentioned this yet, or if you already realise it so forgive me if I'm repeating what you already know (not sure what you ment about your statements in your comments on the picture), but a falcata, kopis, or machiara (all the same sword more or less) would not be held that way. In the pic, the part of the blade that's facing him, that curves forward, is the front. It would be held like any normal sword would, but with the concave side of the blade as the part that kills. So right now you have the sword backwards, and upside down, both of which wouldn't make it very useful since it is a chopping/slashing weapon.
It's basically a sword that evolved starting from the egyption pole axe, then to the khopesh (egyption short sword), then to the form it is in your drawing as the greek kopis that was later adopted heavily by Alexander the Great since it's a light sword (only 2 1/2 to 3 lbs) and can deal heavy blows (which is why the handle is curved like a cane, to prevent it from slipping out of your hand). It changed little over the years, gaining the name Falcata when the Celt-Iberians of the Roman times started using it. It now exists mostly in the form of Kukri and Gurkha knives.
Dispite that he's holding it wrong, it is a VERY nicely drawn falcata, and a nicely drawn picture
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Thanks a lot for the precisions, I didn't have any idea about the concave cutting side. In the pic, he is holding of course the blade in the wrong way, but then, he is holding it twice the wrong way. Oh, now that you point this to me, it makes sense, since back then, I didn't understand why the concave part of the blade was sharp. It's really a fascinating sword wich would require a special combat technique, i presume (so he had to hold it like a sickle?).
Thanks a lot for the precisions
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Yeah it is a neat sword, a preticular favorite for me just for looks alone. So far that I know, it isn't something that requires any special technique to use, it's pretty much an axe in the form of a sword. If you ever see the film Alexander, you see a lot of it in use in the battle scenes.
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wow, someone did Sarmizegetusa! 
But there's no need to be critical with this drawing. it's loveable! ^_^
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Hey hey, thanks, I will try to do some more forest and mountains next time (maybe I'll draw the roman army next to the iron gate, it will be cool, it seems that the danubius freezed in that time - sounds quite impossible - ).
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that must be a metaphore 
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Thaaaaaaaaaaaanks a lot for the infffoooooo !!!! *___*
WOnderful! Splendid!! /me wants more !!! Yeah, tell me more stories like that, it's exactly what I'm searching! 
Please forgive my enthousiasm
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so, you say you want more. here goes: Decebal (he's probably called Decebalus in latin, dunno), who was the king of the Dacians, committed suicide when he realised the war against the Romans was lost(he didn't want to be made prisoner) - but legend says he also gave instructions about a part of the royal fortune to be hidden. And his people buried it somewhere near a river and then diverted the course of the river so that now it runs over the place where the treasure is buried... people in the area where Sarmizegetusa was say that a long time ago, there was gold coming down the rivers every once in a while and it was probably from the Dacian treasure. :>
you do realise these things might not be anywhere near historically accurate, but i hope they inspire you nonetheless
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Okay... You’ve got a number of historical inaccuracies in your picture, as well as a quite severe perspective error.
Hope you won't get too offended by my critiques....
So, first about the botched perspective: his cicilum should have followed the curvature of his outer hip on the far side of the drawing, as this way it gives the impression of ending just past his fingers, a most unsetting effect.
Historical details: First off, the name of the citadel is Sarmisegetuza (just as my country's name is written Romania- I'm sure it's written Romenia in your language, but after all, it is best to pronounce and write the names of places as they are originally, rather than translated in your own tongue- in Romanian the name of your capital is written Lisabona, yet I like to write it Lisboa).
Also, there were actually two different Sarmisegetuzas: Sarmisegetuza Regia, the capital of Dacia under the king Decebalus (last of the Dacian kings, and modern researchers believe that in merely his nickname, but the old dacian tongue is largely unknown due to the flurry of latinization that followed the conquest and wiped out the earlier traditions - even now, there are only about 15 words in modern Romanian that have a definite Dacian origin, as the modern tongue is of Latin origin (funny fact, even though I don't speak Portugues, I can easily understand up to 80% when spoken to in this language, and possibly even more when reading it, due to the similarities between the two tongues)
The second Sarmisegetuza is called Ulpia Traiana Sarmisegetuza, and was built by Trajan (j=i) adjacent to the site of the old capital after the former was razed to the ground in order to humiliate the vanquished. (More information on the matter, here:
[link] )
As an architecture major, I can tell you the building in the background of this pic is purely fantastic, and has nothing to do with either Dacian or Roman architecture styles - the closest resemblance I can find is with a series of poorly documented Hollywood props, since most of the elements in the picture have a distinct medieval Western European flavour.
As for extra pictures of Dacian dress, as well as arhitecture, I'm afraid there isn't much available on the Web (I could only find a few images, and most material coming from this site should be used with caution, as it involves re-creations for a computer game: [link] [link] [link] ) , but if you wish I could draw you some sketches detailingsome of the above mentioned subjects.
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Your comment is most precious to me. I will look at your links really close. Yeah, You're completly right about using the native word, I don't like either translating places names or peoples names. (New York in portuguese is called Nova Iorque -_- ).
So yeah, about this particular piece, I basically did some fantaisist thingy, since I didn't have almost any references, just " large walls done with large stones".... not really detailed. Seeing some ruins of Sarmisegetuza (I hope I spelled it right, lol) weren't really elucidating to me.
It's really a pity that we don't have much more input about anciant dacians, they sure had a far more advanced culture that we could thought - at least general public -
Thanks for your help
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glad to be of assistance. If you need any further details, just sream ...errr.... don't hesitate to ask...
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The armor in this picture caught my eye and I had to take a look. I used to make parts for this sort of lorica, for a guy who made armor for re-enactors. I shudder to think haw many little bronze washers, hooks, and hinges I have made. It is so rare to see historical art that is well researched. Thank you.
As for the picture itself; if there is anything wrong I think it lies in the overall composition, rather than in the detail or in your skill at rendering the image. We all wish that every piece of art we make were better, and we tend to see flaws in our own work that others could never find, even with determined examination.
Thanks for posting this.
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You DID built parts of loricae ? Oo Wow, much impressed! I'm so so so glad that you like that armour, especially knowing so well roman armours. I just saw your galery know, going to take a closer look at it!
Thanks
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Yea I did make a lot of parts of loricae, and sheared out and filed lots of the plates too. I would be given a sheet of metal, a stack of patterns, and a part list. My job was to get as many as possible cut from the sheet, without waste, and still allow the sheer room to turn and cut. The washers I struck in a simple set of dies, and the hooks and hinges were beaten from sheet bronze. That shop also made canteens and ketels for the roman peoples, and lots of shield edging.
There isn't much historical on my gallery right now. Only the Calypso and the Ax. I will post something for you to look at in my scrapp book though I think you will like.
Cheers.
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OKay, I'm waiting for it
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It's there now. Look on willofthewispm scraps, and it should be on the upper left on the scrapbook gallery.
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I can't believe you said "sorry about the sky"! Its definately one of my favourite parts about this drawing!
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ee pá isto está muito bom ...
na miniatura não parecia ..
hum tu estás a evoluir já vejo ...
Lenbrate só que os detalhes .. mesmo com o painter são resultado do trabalho a lapis .. de uma maneira ou de outra ...
E que tens sempre os tint brushes .. para não os erazurar .. e o pic underliyng colors como função dos layers para ajudar ainda mais isso ..
hum .. um grande abraço ...
ficarei há espera do teu melhor ..
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the details in this are incredible 
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Dis-donc, t'as l'air de t'être sacrément docmenté ! O__o
Le dessin est sympa, j'aime beaucoup la colo (et y sont bien ses yeux!), y a juste la pose qui me fait un peu bizarre.
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Pour les docs, toujours!!
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Cets cool !!! jaime bien la colo !!! et le ciel est super!!^^
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hola!....ii mean hi! anyway i agree with wat everyone else has said before about the stiffness of the body and the sword...but when i full viewed the picture i thought the eyes sorta looked yellow to me it gave him a evil/ distant look in his eyes and i thought it looked cool but i see your going for a more historical/non-fantasy feel so yaaaaa...my comment was pointless 
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Being historical doesn't mean I can't put on the story some fantasy hehe
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Sorry, pas "tient", mais "teint", excuse les fautes de frappe, j'ai tapé vite et je bosse en même temps! :\
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Merciiiiiiiiiiiii
Tu peux pas savoir comment ça motive, ton commentaire, ça me fiche la patate
Pour les "pierres" sur l'armure (lorica segmentata): ?__?
Les attaches? Lol. Voué, j'essaie de faire des persos masculins moins musclés, plus realistes (pas encore bishi, faut pas pousser, lol, ce sont des soldats ou des gladiateurs 
Pas de spoil sur FMA, hein, pas de spoil, hein, j'en suis qu'a l'episode 31, moi
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Oui, désolée pour les approximations vestimentaires, j'étais encore toute retournée. C'est bien une armure, donc.
Sinon, pas de spoil, jamais! 
J'ai vu les eps dans le desordre, donc là je repars en arrière après avoir vu le 51 la semaine dernière. Mais je préfère, parce que quelques uns des "anciens" eps que j'ai vus sont à hurler de rire... Le 13 (Hawkeye qui tire sur son chien pour le dresser! 
"Doko e ikutsumori da... Eeeedo?! Omae no koudou wa subete Ou mitoushidayo!!" Lol, le ton de meurtre!
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j'arrive pas a voir une série dans le désordre
J'adore la Sensei º___º quelle classe, quel charisme! La scène où on la voit dans son lit avec son mari est trop tordante, lol, le gars dort avec les yeux ouverts
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Loool! Le meilleur, je trouve, c'est vraiment le 13, avec Al qui planque des chats errants dans son armure 
J'éspère que tu pourras compléter. Tu les récupères ou, tes episodes?
Enfin, quelle excellente série!
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mumule pawa
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Il est tout simplement trop beau. Je t'épargne mes considérations sur l'aboutissement technique du CG, parce que, comme d'hab, c'est très beau (rien que les détails, les pierres sur le vêtement, ou l'amure? Comment on appelle ça, déjà?), les couleurs sont harmonieuses, plus de camaïeu que d'habitude, ce qui n'est pas pour me déplaire.
Passons. Mon truc c'est que je le trouve tout simplement très bishi, et qu'il me rappelle Edward de FMA, dans un episode que je viens de voir ou il se tient les cheveux en brun. drooooools.... 
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T'es très fort en colo!!! o__O mais heu! fiufiu!!!
Et puis ça existe des cieux comme ça non?
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Ben oué, ça existe o_o mais ça fait un peu chargé, non, un ciel comme ça? Merci merci du favheu ^______________________________^ !!!!! (sourire pikastyle).
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mais de rien!! ^_________________________^
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The sky is indeed a bit.. *wishing for more* but I must say the rest of detail on the traditional outfit, the accuracy on the representation of your characters from that timezone, and the way you painted/colored the outfit in such unusual colors that in fact blend in so well, its just... fantastic. Plus, the scenario is, as always, an ingredient that makes every work more rich, and yours never miss a good background
Last but not least, I thin his eyes are beautiful, so don't be sorry for their color ^_^ fits him perfectly...
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