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wingitprod [2022-03-25 02:04:56 +0000 UTC]
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81Scorp [2015-09-02 19:17:23 +0000 UTC]
I don`t agree with your opinion but i respect it.
From what I`ve heard he`s said some jerky things lately.
However, since he`s been screwed by both the comicbook industry and the movie industry and have, at times, been unable to go to the toilet at cons without fans interrupting him to get an autograph (On the toilet, seriously.) I think it`s understandable.
(Not right or justified just understandable.)
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merkavah12 [2014-01-27 03:30:59 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
After seeing him piss on Lovecraft's work, make pedo-porn, denigrate women, rip off Squadron Supreme, and effectively go down the same drainpipe as Frank Miller (two good books and a character reinvention, before promptly declining into a sexist, self absorbed, jealous, ignorant ideologue who couldn't write a good story if his life depended on it? Check and double check) , I have to laugh at anyone who still respects this washed-up has been.
He hasn't made anything worth a flea's fart since 1988. Now he's just some obnoxious jack hole who can't make the proverbial lightning strike twice.
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 03:40:31 +0000 UTC]
Squadron Supreme in it of itself was rip off of the justice league, the porn was his wife's idea and wanted to somehow make porn more artistic. He is a good writer just not a great person. I can mostly justify him as a writer why he's good just like any other great writer in history they have flaws as human beings.
Alan Moore can best be summed up with a man who let his bitterness consume him
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 03:56:19 +0000 UTC]
A dark satire of the Justice League of America (Moore just copied them straight off, no attempt at subversion, no attempt at redefinition),to hear him tell it she only gave him the push (he had wanted to make porn comics since his high school days....and as for making it more 'artistic'? I'd say as much as he mocks the man, Steve Ditko succeeded there more than Alan Moore ever would).
I see him the same way I see Frank Miller: a writer past his prime who has tried and failed to recapture his greatness.
He WAS a good writer. Past tense. Now though? He IS a washed up hack and He IS an ass clown.
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 04:02:35 +0000 UTC]
Not originally when they were first created, only later did they revive the team to give it a more 'realistic' take on what a world of superhero. Which is did a good job doing.
Yeah when he wrote that comics where starting to break away from superhero stories. So Alan Moore thought he try to break away the stigma that porn was trash.
Alan Moore you can tell became the way he is from being screwed by comic and film industry. And never getting from over it.
Frank Miller on who always had questionable ideas. But lose it when 9/11 happened
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 04:10:53 +0000 UTC]
...and yet Moore's Watchmen were based on that early take AND the
prose work on them from Roy Thomas (Seriously, read Roy Thomas' "Death
at 3:30" and tell me that is not 'Watchmen'...AND it was written almost a full
decade BEFORE Moore's work).
...only for him to create more trash and end up falling on his face.
Moore's ego got stoked for so many years being a comics darling and he never got over the fact
that he lost his touch. A fabrege shell ego, just like Miller. He could've easily gotten over
getting screwed, what he couldn't get over was that he was not the comics god he was before (much like Miller)
He and Miller both had questionable ideas (and still do) .
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 04:19:40 +0000 UTC]
Miller it was always there even in his good works it just the fact when he went nuts did everyone notice. Moore just bitter person remember once in response about the blackness night event 'he made it up and was never suppose to be taken seriously, and the medium should make original stuff instead of recycling'
Forgetting the fact his most famous works are him reimagining well known characters even Watchmen was suppose have the Charleston heroes, but someone at DC wanted to make a Blue Beetle comic so they were made original characters. Though you can still clearly see some stuff makes more stuff with the Charleston connection.
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 04:26:45 +0000 UTC]
Same thing with Moore: it was always even in his good works.
I remember that quote well. I laughed heartily at the absolute hypocrisy of
it. The man is more than just bitter: he's bitter, an asshole and falling to pieces. Remember
what he said in an interview in 2001 "I was never given the respect I deserved. Frankly,
I saved the medium." Dude has a MASSIVE ego on him.
The only 'reimagining' he did that was worth a shit was Swamp Thing. He ripped off Roy Thomas
work on SS when he did Watchmen.
Hell, up until the ending of 'Death at 3:30' , it is the EXACT plot of Watchmen. The only part that changes is the last page.
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 04:32:45 +0000 UTC]
He also can be very scary if you mention Killing Joke and Watchmen. The only thing he saved was the standard protocol on Graphic Novels at DC.
He and Miller did get comics more of a mainstream attention but also inadvertently started the dark age. Which is why Moore doesn't own Watchmen because it was so popular it never stop printing
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 04:40:11 +0000 UTC]
He's a british comics writer, they all get scary when they've missed their hourly
booze infusion. Don't believe me? DO NOT go near Dave Gibbons if its mid afternoon
and he doesn't have a loaded highball glass on the table with him. *shiver*
See, and that's a double edged sword. Sure. Mainstream attention means
more readers and more cool animation and the like.
....but it also means we get some high holy horseshit in the shop too. Case in point:
Every a-hole frat bro dressing up like Rorschach after the movie came out.
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 04:46:41 +0000 UTC]
Except the dark age gave people who knew jack about basic economics that collecting comics could get someone millions. Just like Freebi babies if I'm spelling that right.
Which the only good that came from that era was Image eventually, Vertigo, editors who know what comics can get away with own their own, and Marvel and DC able to make more money with their properties
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 04:51:38 +0000 UTC]
I think you mean "beanie babies". But yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah, it was the age where the author and the artist gave way to the accountant and the lawyer.
...a situation mainstream comics are still in, I fear.
For me, the only good out of the era was the rise of the indie 'zine and
the growth of the independent non-studio artist (which led to the booming
indie comic trade down here Central and South America).
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 04:54:33 +0000 UTC]
Well at least in the US the indie boom came right before the dark age began, but ended with Marvel trying to kill the competition in a lot of questionable practices.
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 04:58:51 +0000 UTC]
*gasp* Marvel is using vile tactics to increase it's market share because
it's artistic soul is bottled and sold in a jar in aisle 3 in a Walmart and it doesn't give a shit
about the medium?!
The surprise! I'm going to have a heart attack and DIE from that surprise!
/s
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 05:04:50 +0000 UTC]
Ok Marvel UK found out a comic was going to made with 'Plasm' they then trademark that term before it could get release. The company actually contacted them about making some kind of compromise like their book being called 'Team Plasm' UK never deliberately never responded.
So when that book got released with a new name UK sued them. It was so bad the company had to close it's door. Even the judge said it was a dick move. But payback is a bitch cause Marvel UK shut down that same year
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 05:08:26 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. I heard about that one. Trust me, much like a
sexual encounter with an ogre, Marvel's history of
evil gets worse the more you look at it.
I recommend Scifi Debris documentary.
sfdebris.com/videos/special/co…
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Oracledk In reply to merkavah12 [2017-01-13 05:10:56 +0000 UTC]
I watched it it's just so bizarre dumb decisions had happened without anyone realizing what dumb decisions they were before it was too late.
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merkavah12 In reply to Oracledk [2017-01-13 05:13:35 +0000 UTC]
That's greed, Oracle. Greed'll do that to anyone who gives in:
it consumes health in search of wealth, and then devours
dreams for dimes.
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Red-Jirachi-2 In reply to merkavah12 [2015-08-30 02:51:41 +0000 UTC]
The porn thing is probably because he's Rasputin in disguise
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NVaizard [2012-07-14 23:27:32 +0000 UTC]
Nonsense. Alan Moore is much more than Watchmen, he is much more than The Killing Joke and much more than any of his work, really. The maturity of his writings is unparalleled in the comic book world, even if one doesn't like some of his most famous works (I don't like V for Vendetta, for instance).
Take 'Swamp Thing', for example. Alan Moore took over Swamp Thing and turned it from the story of a man who had been turned into a plant into the story of a plant with delusions of grandeur, a plant who believes it's a human being. This kind of thing is what makes Moore what he is.
But I respect your opinion. There is nothing wrong with disliking Moore. He is just a man, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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ParadigmFallen [2012-06-19 16:47:42 +0000 UTC]
I'm about with you, as the books didn't interest me nearly as much as the movie for Watchmen.
If it makes you feel any better no one gets why I hate Activision/Blizzard.
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