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Published: 2012-12-02 12:32:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 511; Favourites: 16; Downloads: 1
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Contest Prize for , who wanted a pic of her wolf OC Roman: [link] He was so much fun to draw, but the complex design was a little challenging.
I decided to do a little snow scene, since it's winter.
And I'm pretty pleased with the outcome. This was my first time drawing a wolf. Wolves are awesome. Personally, I'm really liking this sketchy lineart style.
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Thank you so much! 
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U're welcome
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Cool! Just out of curiosity, what do you draw with? (It's probably somewhere and I just didn't see it XD)
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I use a Genius brand tablet (It's a cheap one, but it's still great and I've had it for many years. I'm working on saving up to buy a Wacom Bamboo because I really really want one.) and I use PaintToolSai almost exclusively now. I used to use Photoshop 7.0 and occasionally still do.
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Okey dokey lokey 
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I can see why this posed such a challenge for you, but the results still look pretty awesome. I really love the highlights that you add to your work.
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Thank you so much... I'm glad you like it. He was fun to work with, but challenging because of the complex design. I still loved doing it though. I'm trying to get better with highlights and shading, sometimes I don't feel like it's dramatic enough (or enough contrast) to work with certain lighting. So I'm glad you notice things like that. 
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No problem! 
Well, the little details do matter, after all.
It's no trouble at all.
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Thanks... I check out a lot of tutorials, that's how I was able to get this far with stuff. ^^ They're wonderful. That was really helpful, thanks.
And that's true, they make all the difference.
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No problem! <3 I think that everyone, no matter how talented they are, needs just a bit of help, every now and then. The internet is a lovely resource for locating all sorts of assistance in art.
Indeed, they do.
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Okay... I think you're a little obsessed with Kaline to be a Kaline hater...
If I hated someone as much as you do Kaline, I would block them, and never come to their page, visit them ever again, and stay as far away as I possibly can.
But this behavior that you have is just sad and pathetic.... What are you 13? Because you're acting like a 10 year old...
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No I'm not.
And I really did hate her. but I've decided to be nice and try to apologize. I've seen lots of people who all hate her and stuff. so why is it such a big deal if I do too?>
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Honey, I can go to almost every art and journal entry that she posted in the last two weeks, and find you bashing her on everything, even something as horrendous as supporting art theft, just because you 'hate' her. You're obviously stalking her.
Because you're the only one I've caught coming to her page, journals, deviations and such. Seriously, if you hate her so much, why do keep coming back to her page?
Again, if I really hated her like you do, I would stay away from her and never speak to her again.
I can get that you need to speak you mind and get stuff off of your chest, but that should be between you and Kaline, not the rest of the world. So, that's something you should settle in a PM or email.
Most of the time, the people who hate her and do things like you are doing, are usually thiefs and are mad at her for not having her skill, not knowing what she's been through, and she speaks more truths than lies.
Speaking of being mad at her, I saw recently that you hated how 'fake' she is. How is she fake? I may not know her as much as I would like to, but I do know her IRL, and I met her through my best friend. We both go through a lot of shit with our families, and they are very similar. Do you know that we both grew up with overly controlling parents, and that our lives were pretty much chosen for us, and because we took our own lives and dreams into our own hands, that we have to deal with them on a daily basis, having them tell us how pathetic and useless we are for following our hearts and dreams? Do you know that we both have sons, and we are nice enough to stay in contact with them because we want our kids to have the Grandparents in their lives?
So people get depressed. We all do. If someone tells you that they have never been depressed, then they are lying. People get depressed over little things. For some, it's pregnancy, others are growing pains, middle school, high school, college, grades, family, friends, relationships, matierial items, money, loss of jobs, etc. The list goes on. For people like me and Kaline, we don't have a lot of people that we can openly vent too.
Also, she wasn't asking anyone to give her anything, like the tablet she mentioned. She mentioned the price, yes, but she mentioned that she would like to get it for Christmas, but it's a goal that she will work on. If anything, she is probably hinting at her boyfriend to buy it for her for the holidays.
Also, I'm a Christian too, but just because other people don't agree with our beliefs, doesn't mean that you need to go and shove it on anybody elses. In my opinion, if anyone is a REAL Christian, they would follow the last commandment given by Jesus, "Love one another as I have loved you, and love your neighbor as you love yourself." If that's the case, then you obviously hate yourself.
Also, don't judge other's simply because they sin differently than you.
I may not share the same beliefs as Kaline or a lot of people, but that doesn't mean I should bash them for their. Ultimately, they will pay the price for not being a Christian. I'm not saying, don't try to help them see the light, but that's where we should guide them to Him, and not try to be hateful and spiteful towards them, to move them further away. If anything, you're not helping lead people to Christ, but instead, leading them away from them. No wonder she doesn't believe in God, because people like you who claim to be Christians do nothing but try to bring her down, instead of up.
Also, just because other people treat her like crap and hate her means you have to hate her as well? That's like saying, "Oh hey, I'm going to vote for this person for president because everyone else is voting for him/her, screw the fact that I don't him/her or what his/her beliefs, views, and politcal history are."
As for apologizing, that's a very mature decision. I'm glad to see that you were not hacked like Kaline thought, but at the same time, it's kind of saddening to think about, because that means that it actually was you that was trying to be so hurtful.
Apologizing is the right direction to go, but don't be surprised if you apologize and nothing comes from it. Much like wounds, they heal over time, but they leave some awful scars...
I hope you know I'm not attacking you directly, and it anything you will use all that I've said and think about what you post, how you post it, and where you post it.
Again, if you have a problem with something, like you did/do with Kaline, then that's okay, but you should use a Note to tell her.
If you don't like her, to go to her posts or art and keep saying mean things. If you're done with someone, just be done with them. Leave their page, their art, and their journals, and never go back.
Hope that helps you understand what the issue was. If anyone else were to do what you did to her, I would be doing the same thing to them, and I am to you, but I have not seen anyone else come back constantly like you have and post the things that you have either.
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Ok this is hard to admit but maybe I am a little jealous of her. I've been here a long time too and I never get watchers or pageviews or faves or friends or any of the things she has. I've tried drawing and stuff but I'm just no good, I'll never be as good as her. It's even more annoying when everyone sticks up for her like this I wish you could all understand how frustrating it is.
I am sorry for the things you've both been through. I attacked her out of anger and I was frustrated at the time. I've already apologized to her once and I'll continue to try to find ways to make it up to her. I didn't know she thoughts I was hacked. But that's not the only reason I was angry at her there were lots.
You actually know her, like you've met her in person face to face? And she was who she says she is? I've heard alot of rumors like she lied about herself and everything like she's really a teenager or a guy or all kinds of stuff. It does bother alot of people about her religion and the fact that she tries to always hide it like that would help or something. That's being fake. Also not being who you claim to be is fake so that's why I said that part. I know I shouldn't believe rumors but it's hard to tell who was honest and who was lying in that sense.
I know you're just trying to help but you also don't know the whole story. The whole kawaii anime thing she does just gets really old and sometimes it's really annoying, esoecially to adults. Also I wish she'd stop making so many adopts and post some of her actual art if she's going to do that.
I'd like to send her a note to talk to her about all this, but she still has me blocked so I can't say anything on her page or to her. Would you tell her I'd like to say I'm sorry? And if she unblocks me I won't say anything mean to her anymore. I'll just keep it myself or if it bothers me alot I will take it up with her in a note, as you suggested. Just do that one thing for me and I'll leave you both alone forever?
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I wonder how it's so annoying sticking up for a friend? I would think if I bashed a friend of yours for any reason, no matter what it was, that you would stick up for them too. Is that so wrong to stick up for people who always get knocked down for no reason.
It's all good. We're strong because of what we go through. It's hard, and still is, but we strive hard to achieve our goals. It doesn't help when people we consider friends all the sudden attacks us at every angle in everyway.
And yes, I actually do know her, and her boyfriend Hatter. I even used to hang out with her and her ex-husband. My best friend introduced us, and we shared lunch at a McDonald's in her town. I gave her my copy of Photoshop when she lost hers. And she is who she says she is. The whole kawaii-anime thing might be too much for you, and that's fine, but in reality, that how she acts too. She's not faking anything. As far as her 'hiding' her religion, she's not. She's understands that everyone has their own religion, and doesn't want to disrupt anyone elses views. She expresses her views, but she doesn't force it. I respect it, even if I don't agree with it. She knows that I'm a Christian and I don't believe in her views, and she's absolutely fine with it, and respects my views.
Usually the people who spread the lies and rumors and gossip are those who don't know her in real life, and doesn't have a clue first hand at what we've been through.
But you are right, I don't know the whole story, but at the same time, if you would've just sent her a note in the first place, this conversation wouldn't be happening. Just sayin'.
As for adopts, I agree that it's not her work, but that's really her choice. And she's not the only person on dA who post them either. There are a lot of people who do that.
It's fine that you don't like the adopts. I personally don't care for stories or poems in general of dA, so I don't care for her poems or stories either. I'm sure she's a fabulous writer, but I don't care for it. I don't care for Yaoi either, but that's okay. Differences are okay to have. It would be pretty boring if everyone were the same. What do I do about the Yaoi I don't like that she posts? I just push the 'x' at the top of the deviation and skip it. I don't even look at it. If I don't have anything nice to say about someone's art or preferences, don't say anything at all.
I will let her know that you would like to talk, but I can't guarantee that she will want to. I'll express that you are very sorry.
As for leaving us alone forever, there's no need for that. Just make sure you have your emotions in check before you go posting, so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
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Yes you are right. I can assure you it won't happen again. I did't mean to attack her but looking back on everything that's exactly what I did. I feel horrible about it.
I had no idea she was being honest about everything this whole time. Just sometimes she says things that are just outrageous but that used to be one of the things I liked about her. I think it may be that over time we just both changed too much but all the blame for that is not on her, it's me as well.
I like Yaoi and I wish she'd do more of it but it seems like she's been focusing more on cute things and other stuff lately. Nothing wrong with it either but the main reason I started watching her was because of that.
I guess I was trying to explain myself but now I see that all my reasons werre kind of dumb. I'm not sure where to go from here but I'm sorry to both of you. Not just saying that but I really really mean it. I feel genuinely bad for hurting her.
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I'm really glad you were able to realize it. You did the right thing by apologizing.
It's okay. A lot of people do that, and it's not just with Kaline, but it's with almost anyone in the world. A lot of people are willing to judge first, and ask questions later.
People do change, this is true. The thing about change though is learning to adapt to changes as well, and accepting those changes. :]
I know she's still into it, but she finds other intrests, and I do too, and we just kind of focus on those intrests. Another thing she's trying to do is trying to find where when wants her art to go, but again, that deals a lot with changing, as well as experimenting. But I can't blame you otherwise. There's a lot of people that I start watching for specific reasons myself. And if they stop doing what they did for me to become a watcher, then I sometimes unwatch them if I don't find anything else they do appealing.
It's all good though. I went ahead a talked with her, and I think she's deciding on what to do from here about accepting your apology and becoming friends again. Again, it's up to her, but I went ahead and let her know what we talked about and that you seem to be genuinely sorry. :]
As long as you have a good head on your shoulders, I think this will all turn out okay. :]
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Maybe and I agree too many people do things without thinking them through and sometimes i do too. Having more than 1 interst is good I guess. Maybe she's just going through some mental stuff right now and doesn't know where she wants her art to go really. I dunno. I feel bad what I said.
I think if I totally lose interest in her work, I'll just unwatch her or something. but she was one of my fave artists for a long time and it was just sort of disappointing to see her stray from the art I'd originally watched her for. It's still her choice, I know.
Thank you for telling her for me, i think it worked and i apprecate it. 
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That's probably the best thing you can do. :]
I don't think she'll have hard feelings toward you for doing that in the future. She would probably have hard feelings if you did what you did before.
No problem. I'm glad everything worked out in the end.
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Oooh I love this! <3 thank you so very much!!
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I'm glad you like it. 
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