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I haven't drawn Shakugan no Shana art for a long time and I had only scetched Khamsin Nbh'w. Therefore I thought of drawing someone else too. And so...I tried Margery!
Also this is an early birthday gift for (Happy early birthday dear. I wanted to be the first one to wish you!
)It is because next week I'll have the exams so I am not sure that I'll have time to draw. So I did a quick scetch of Margery.
Well it is my first time I try to draw curves so intensely and I am sorry I messed up! I am sorry my friend for the awful quality! Plus I am sorry if those are not exactlt Margery's colors. But my colored pensils almost died out so...yeah...I tried to do the best with everything I had!
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For those who do not know her, Margery Daw is a Flame Haze from the anime Shakugan no Shana (it is an amazing one! I recommend!)
She is a tall self-conceited woman with a bad drinking habit. As a Flame Haze she got the name "Chanter of Elegies" when she made contract with her Crismon Lord Marcocias who takes the form of a book. Margery is a very skilled spellcaster among Flame Hazes and she often attacks by singing old songs (her name was also based on the old English song "Margery Daw")
In the past both her and Marcosias shared a great battle lust to destroy all monsters called Crimson Denizens from the world whether those harmed humans or not. They cared nothing of the balance of the world, just to satisfy themselves by killing. Later on she changes character and is more tender towards others and has learnt how to love.
Margery used to live in Middle Ages when her life was destroyed. She was forced at becoming a prostitute back then and when her hatred for people reached its zenith, she decided to kill everyone that tormented her. However the last moment a monster looking like a silver armor, killed everyone she wanted to kill, leaving her wounded and mentally broken that she did not have the satisfaction of killing those who destroyed her. The last moment she was about to give up, she made the contract with Marcocias. However ever since she is searching for that Silver, who became an obsession to her. So far she hadn't managed to find him.
Anyway once more I am so sorry everyone for the bad quality! I was in a hurry! Plus my scanner wanted to play with my nerves again, making the picture look like leaning to the side! :angry:
Anyway I hope you liked it even if it sucks. It was my first try of drawing Margery...
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Wow...I didn't know you had drawn Khamsin. Reminds me of when I have drawn him for you for your birthday this year. It's good that you took on the challenge of drawing a character with lots of difficult curves. I have a difficult time with curves from time to time. The hair has a nice flow to it. Marcosias looks great and the color you have used for her outfit is great. I still have the rest of Shakugan no Shana on my list of animes to watch (Seasons 2 and 3 that is). Nice work, Yami.
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Huh? You didn't? 
Here they are:
(you have even commented to the last one! 
Yes drawing female body can be harder than male because of the curves and analogies and stuff.
I'm glad you liked them but the colors I tried to create were the original colors to be honest!
[I recommend them. Season 3 has also some epic battles in it -even if it is a complete chaos with the names!-]
Anyway thanks for the comment.
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** Ok...I forgot about commenting on the last one, but I haven't looked at the first two. True, but it is also a good challenge to be able to work on stuff like that. The colors are pretty close to the original colors of the character.
That and I believe it was season 3 that you told me Khamsin appears a lot in. You're welcome.
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No worries.
Well I tried my best with the colored pensils I had...
Yes. Season 3 is the one Khamsin appears in the most.
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I will.
It's always good to try your best no matter what.
That is what I thought.
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It is indeed.
Yes
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I think it turned out quite nice considering all that you had to contend with; printer, pencils etc.
And DANG, it's been a long time since I've watched any anime, much less Shakugan no Shana; I forgot about all those characters and details...and might have even learned something new based on your description.
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Thank you my friend. I really appreciate it!
Yeah me too!
Shakugan no Shana is an incredible anime and one of the very few of "old-school" style!
It has a very intrigue-plot and amazing characters. I recommend it definitely! Plus the
soundtracks are some of the best I have ever heard!
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You're welcome.
Maybe I'll get to see the original again one day.
There's a new revamp of Shakugan no Shana out now too I hear, that includes a 3rd season, but I hear they also changed many voices, so I'm not sure how good that one really would be.
Full Metal Alchemist - Brotherhood however; although it is quite different from the original, especially after the death of a certain main character, it is very good in how deep and fulfilling it becomes.
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A revamp? What does that include?
The third season is out more than five years now. I wonder what they have in mind.
Ah yes! Unfortunately they change many things when they come back to old stuff and just doesn't feel the same anymore!
FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood is based almost completely on the manga while the 2003 anime is based on it only to the first chapters. I personally didn't like Brotherhood. I have read the manga and that is enough for me. In Brotherhood I didn't like the animation nor the colors. They made Elric Brothers WAY too pale and Edward looked like ghost and also Alphonse was also blonde while I liked his brown hair in the 2003 version. In 2003 version they did better job at saying the responsibility of the alchemists who did human transmutation and also I believe they worked better on Edward's personality. It also did better job at explaining why Hoenheim disappeared.
I know that Brotherhood is based on the original story but I didn't like it at all! Plus they focused too much on comedy while 2003 was way darker. But that's just my opinion.
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Not sure; just know my younger brother had mentioned it; don't know much about it, nor that a 3rd season had been out.
I guess I took it a bit different.
The original, still holds nostalgia as one of the first real animes my brothers and I got into, so by no means would I talk bad of it.
I just know the original only kept truer to the manga for the first season, but then they got ahead of the manga at the time, and had to just make it up for themselves from that point on.
It was rather dark in places, although I don't feel the comedy parts were that much less in the original, but I've also not seen it in a while (same goes for the animation style, as I thought FMAB was still okay.
Honestly, for the reasons of human transmutation, and Hoenheim leaving...I just see the differences as being two different takes on the same story, to a certain extent.
You could almost say, FMA was Edwards route, while FMAB had it more from Winrey's perspective (as she did seem to have a bigger part).
Granted, I didn't like that they seemed to skim through most of what we formerly knew of the first series' season 1, but the excuse there was to leave more room for the rest. (now only if you could combine 2003 season 1 and FMAB season 2+...and still make them cooperate)
Somethings I liked about FMAB, although it felt like they still rushed it along a bit too fast, and killed off certain characters quicker:
As I said before, I can't speak ill of the original series, yet I don't want to make Brotherhood out to be completely terrible either.
I just feel they were 2 different takes on the same story, and that each could stand on it's own without the other; you just choose the route and outcome you like better.
These are only my opinions ...
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It has been out ever since 2011. After that or at the same time with that were some OVAs.
I know. I am just saying that I found that much deeper and much more intrigue than the brotherhood one.
Yes I know it moved faster than the manga at that time and that's why it was different. I think that the original had indeed comedy scenes but not THAT many and also it didn't show it so much with the animation (you know all those "funny" faces they usually make at anime)
Actually especially in Hoenheim's part it is two different things altogether I think. In the manga it is clear that Trisha knows that Hohenheim was Philosopher's stone and still she did not judge him but Hoenheim left with no reason anyway. In 2003 anime Hohenheim saw his body rotting away and so he left so Trisha wouldn't find out his secret.
Actually I never meant for them to be cooporated. I believe that 2003 is better at terms of plot and such but of course Brotherhood or better manga plot has its charms too. I am not denying it but certain things were not the same to me. Plus the final fight in Brotherhood was a disappointment to me. I had read the manga and expected the animators do better job with it.
I think you misunderstand me. I am not saying that brotherhood is terrible either. At least not in terms of story. Like I said is the animation that got me disappointed. Plus Roy was voiced by a different person in Brotherhood I think and I loved his part more in 2003 (even if they showed some great interraction between him and Liza in Brotherhood)
These are opinions there is no need for you to say it all the time you know 
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Ah
Point taken.
I guess as I think about it, I can agree with that; it might have something to do with more modern anime including those comedic visuals; can't say I completely agree with them though, and they could be a bit much at times...
Ah...well the fact you have read the manga, definitely would give you these more differing views on this subject overall, as I've not been privy to such things, there are certain details I guess I just can't "feel" for as I was never aware of their existence in the first place... -_-
I was just saying ifΒ it was possible, in the terms of leaving more details from season one original, and being able to join them with the details of season 2 on.Β I was sayingΒ in my view, it would be nice if something like that could have worked.Β Not that I was trying to say you saw it like that.Β I'm sorry if some translation mixups happened in how I badly phrased it. -_-
I'm sorry...I guess in how I read it initially, it felt like it came out kind of harsh so I wasn't sure how to fully respond...
I know Scar was changed; wasn't fully aware Roy was voiced differently.
Liza?Β Or Riza?Β Anime or Manga?Β Might be one of those Japanese L vs. R translation things?
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Yes. Of course I aknowledge that those comedy visuals are what make anime, anime sometimes but yes what I am talking about is the exessive use of them.
Nah, people tend to like what they see first sometimes. Besides it is all a matter of opinion. What I like doesn't have to be what you like. I am just using my arguements not necessarily to "persuade" you but also to give you a piece of my mind. Yes the manga helped me in certain stuff but Brotherhood also has some things that are different from time to time, I think.
Nay not at all. I am sorry if I made you feel like that. I am just saying that it is probably impossible to mix because they use entirely different plot and storyline. For example Tucker's incident takes place in Edward's youth while in the manga and Brotherhood takes place when Edward already is a state alchemist. Plus Tucker lives in 2003 anime while he immediately dies in Brotherhood and manga etc. The plot differences are too many for the two to mix.
Well Brotherhood just gave them future while 2003 one ended when Edward passed to another dimension and ended up to our world. It is in a way concluded with the movie Conqueror of Shamballa where Ed is 18 years old and because Al came back as 10 year old, he is now 13. I think it is certain that one of the two has family on Earth because there was a video in which shows three children in modern era and then an elder Ed. The video was to celebrate Edward's 100th birthday! In a way I think Ed, who wished to pay with his life for his sins was the one to live the most.
Harsh?! In what way?
I think he was voiced differently. From what I remember it was indeed a different voice actor.
"Riza" is the japanese pronounciation of "Liza". In Japanese there is no real separation between "L" and "R". They are both merged in a way. "Riza" is more like a japanese accent because there is no "L", like the "wet" one, in japanese language. The "r" sounds more "wet" than in english language. (Sorry "wet" is how they are called in greek language, I am not sure how they are called in English
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Woooow OMG this is so so sweet of you to do<3 thank you for the early birthday wishes (yes you WERE the first hehe)
Hahah now someone else knows my pain! She is fairly difficult to draw I always thought lol... But this is great! It is like the drawing of her when she makes her first appearance in the light novels, right? I loveeee it <3
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It was nothing dear. Forgive me it is not better. It is not exactly a birthday gift but I promise to make something better for you when I can.
Hahahaha oh yeah I definitely understand! I suck at drawing females!
You definitely do great job drawing her analogies in your own unique style.
Great? If only dear. However I am very glad you like it.
If only I had the light novels! However I guess you're right.
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Ohhh no worries! Really!
Hehehe well itβs the other way around for me- Iβm bad at drawing males T^T but still- that doesnβt mean she is not difficult for drawing. (thank you so much though! Iβm glad you think so >w<)
(Oh- well if you do read them oneday, is the second light novel Iβm referring to)Β
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I still worry! 
Hehe I see!
Of course I think so!
Well... The problem is that they do not come in Greece... And evening the English ones came here still not all the volumes have been translated.
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Well you're really good at drawing Khamisn... but yet- for me. I think of all the Shakugan no Shana characters I tried drawing, he was by far the most difficult XD
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You're very sweet my friend. It is true that he has some difficult details to draw though
But I find more difficult drawing Margery!
I think only those two were translated. But I wish I had them even if they were in Japanese! It would take me a while to read and translate but I wouldn't mind it!
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Thanks. She IS a very interesting character!
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Indeed! Like Khamsin Nbh'w!
All Flame Hazes get through a tragical event in their lives before making the contract with their Crimson Lords. Indeed Margery is a very tragic character because she has a real obsession with that Silver and sees nothing else and many times she saw her only goal being snatched from her and her spirit couldn't handle it all the times. She is a very complex character even if in the beginning she appears to be the typical flirtuous "femme fatale" in the anime. She has way deeper personality than that. And she gets some very interesting transformation when she is in full power.
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Yes. Unfortunately, she went half-crazy at least twice when she thought she would get her target and one when she thought she lost it!
Here is a small part of season 2 where Margery saves the day by making her spell (using the "free verse" song I talked you about)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjocsxβ¦
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Yeah! Here is also what happened to her when silver flames came out!
(spoiler alert apaprently Silver was inside the protagonist all time long!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1V7mMβ¦
Did you see the video I sent you before?
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I saw it, but the second video is blocked in my country.
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Oh...that's bad indeed.
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Anyway what did you think of Margery from the video you could see?
(the other voice that was laughing all the time was Marcocias
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The funny thing is that when Marcocias embarrasses her with his comments she often punches him (aka the book) and tells him "Shut up, stupid Marco!" ("Odamari baka Marco!" in Japanese)
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And he keeps calling her names all the time teasingly. Especially when she is drunk or hangover. His favorite is "My beloved Goblet, Margery Daw"
But he has others too and many of them are hints to her drinking habit
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Yeah! And he makes fun of her ESPECIALLY when she's hangover! Then he calls her "my hangover angel" or similar things and she is like "I'll freaking kill you Marcocias!"
Because Flame Haze can heal faster thanks to their Crimson Lord's flames. In other words Marco can heal her from headache if he wants to but instead he leaves her be to "teach her a lesson"
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Margery also lives in a house of a schoolboy till she finishes her work in the city. When he and his friend ask from Marcocias to heal her Marco is like:
"Spoil her now and you'll have the same thing tonight!"
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