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In Look magazine of 16th January 1962, David Ben Gurion,
laid down his plans for world domination with Jerusalem
as the global world capital:
"The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: The Cold War will be a thing of the past.
Internal pressure of the constantly growing intelligentsia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure
of the masses for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of the Soviet Union…"
[Glasnost, Perestroika & Gorbachev were right on time in 1987 and going according to plan]
"…On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and farmers, and the rising Political
importance of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned
economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a
Socialist and democratic regime."
"With the exception of the U.S.S.R. as a federated Eurasian State, all other continents will become
united in a world alliance at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be
abolished and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations will build a shrine of the
prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court
of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah."
- David Ben Gurion
Source: seeker401.files.wordpress.com/…
(Look magazine 16th January 1962)
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Agree. God is just an illusion in peoples' head.
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The Steadfast Fool
The most dangerous type of fool is a steadfast fool. The Hebrew word nâbâl (naw-BAWL), which means “stupid, wicked,” identifies this type of person. Elsewhere in the Old Testament, nâbâl also is translated as vile person.
A steadfast fool totally rejects God and His ways. “The fool [nâbâl] hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good” (Psalm 14:1). This type of fool is self-confident and close-minded. He is his own god, freely gratifying his lower nature. It is his goal to draw as many others as possible into his evil ways. Attempts to reprove him will be futile and bring frustration to the one who tries to influence him. Only God can successfully reprove a steadfast fool.
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Ha ha, that made my day. You're even more funny than the Jehovah's Witnesses who knocked on my door the other day.
I guess I should now be waiting for this fictive figure to successfully reprove me for being 'my own god'
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But Ben-Gurion is not an illusion. He was a real person and knew perfectly well that Jewish terror groups (like the Irgun and Stern Gang) took the land by force, killing and displacing some 700,000 Arabs in their vicious attacks. And today these terror groups have merged into the IDF who continue this genocidal behaviour every single day. That's what this piece is about, since you apparently missed the point.
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Actually...
No. I did some research on this actually. It's from a so-called conversation the author had with Ben Gurion, written 20 years AFTER the conversation supposedly took place AND 5 years after Ben Gurion had passed -- which allowed no rebuttal.
It's your narrative that wishes to believe that.
Questionable, Unverified Source: Clifford claims that Ben-Gurion wrote: "If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural, we have taken their country." In fact, according to Nahum Goldmann, Ben-Gurion allegedly said this to him. Goldmann was an adversary of Ben-Gurion, and he came out with this alleged quote, verbatim, in his book published two decades later (The Jewish Paradox, 1978), five years after Ben-Gurion died. There was no recording of the quote, and Ben-Gurion was no longer around to dispute it.
And, finally, here's a real Ben-Gurion quote that Clifford chose not to share:
In our state there will be non-Jews as well — and all of them will be equal citizens; equal in everything without any exception; that is: the state will be their state as well. ...The attitude of the Jewish State to its Arab citizens will be an important factor—though not the only one—in building good neighbourly relations with the Arab States. If the Arab citizen will feel at home in our state, and if his status will not be the least different from that of the Jew, and perhaps better than the status of the Arab in an Arab state, and if the state will help him in a truthful and dedicated way to reach the economic, social, and cultural level of the Jewish community, then Arab distrust will accordingly subside and a bridge to a Semitic, Jewish-Arab alliance, will be built... (Ba-Ma'Araha Vol IV, Part 2, pp. 260, 265, quoted in Fabricating Israeli History, Efraim Karsh, p.67)
You may wish to look into how much land was PURCHASED before Israel gained independence.
And an equal amount of Jews were expelled from their own homes in the Arab countries.
The IDF is the most moral army in history. But apparently teaching the young to kill Jews must be fine with you. Digging and creating tunnels with cement meant for hospitals, schools, and homes must be fine with you. Vehicle jihad must be fine with you. Placing missiles and weapons right next to schools, hospitals, and homes must be fine with you. Knife attacks must be fine with you. Stone attacks on innocents must be fine with you. I have not ONCE seen you condemn that kind of behavior.
Israel was willing to live the the two-state program back in 1948, the Arabs weren't. It's the same now - the Palestinians are on record for wanting the destruction of Israel.
Who's genocidal now?
Such incredible, and vile hate. for a tiny little state like Israel.
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Good to see you have done your homework. As for the first quote, that's probably the correct source. Mine was translated from Yiddish -> German -> English which should explain the minor differences.
As for the second quote: that looks like a perfect model for a secular, democratic one-state solution. Unfortunately, that's not what the Zionist regime in Israel have in mind these days. Alone the new name, The Jewish State of Israel, speaks volumes.
Regarding the IDF: I totally agree with the other commenter. And so does some brave Israeli soldiers operating under the name Breaking the Silence . One of my Jewish friends actually deserted the army during the Lebanon war back in the 1980s. He couldn't stand to be part of the grave war crimes Israel committed.
Yes, Israel is indeed a tiny little state, but nonetheless utterly racist and genocidal. Sad but true.
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You agree with this statement he made?
"Do people really believe such horseshit?
The IDF have shot civilians waving white flags, they have dropped White Phosphorous and flechettes over residential areas of Gaza, they have used civilians as human shields, they have taken trophy photos with dead Palestinians, they have shot Palestinian kids, shot Palestinians and stolen their organs, they torture children...
Seriously, what planet do you live on???"
This entire statement? Yes or no?
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I have already told you. Evidence is abundant and easy to find. Do a little research as your next homework.
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blocked me, after I pointed out some uncomfortable truths, so I'll leave my reply to him here:
Everything I said is true. I already told you I could back up what I wrote, why are you questioning someone else about what I said? If you want sources, just ask. Or let me guess, you understand that what I wrote is true and that's why you don't want to debate it.
...and also why you blocked me.
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What an idiot! He's just as fanatic as a Wahhabi from Islamic State. It's a waste of time to debate that kind of people. I've tried it many times before.
"...and also why you blocked me." Did I block you? I certainly don't hope so. I'll check the list asap.
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No, not you, this 'Centurion030' guy. I was saying that he blocked me because he didn't want to debate me. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.
I like your uploads btw, they show up on my community watch list (or whatever it's called), they're good.
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Oh good. Mistakes (or glitches) do happen sometimes
Thanks very much for your kind words. I'm glad you like them. Hope to see you here another time
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So you are saying yes then. Everything he said was true?
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SMDH...
Right.
Because it IS the Jewish State.
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And that's exactly the problem!
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Israel, belonging to the Jews, is a problem?
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"The IDF is the most moral army in history."...
Do people really believe such horseshit?
The IDF have shot civilians waving white flags, they have dropped White Phosphorous and flechettes over residential areas of Gaza, they have used civilians as human shields, they have taken trophy photos with dead Palestinians, they have shot Palestinian kids, shot Palestinians and stolen their organs, they torture children...
Seriously, what planet do you live on???
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yep they are the new Black and Tans.
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Just as ruthless in their attacks against civilians, that's for sure.
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Well said, and I couldn't agree more
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Earth...
You must live on planet Blood Libel.
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You must live on planet crazy
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"Blood libel"... lol, is that the best that you've got? Nothing I said was false, I can back up everything that I wrote. I can't figure out if you're in denial or are simply just another apologist for israel.
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I understand why you argue and expose these kind of
senseless arguments, but it is pretty much useless.
Most people live in an illusionary cult of veneration of
the Jews, mainly through the Bible and holocaust
propaganda.
The last time I tried to argue about the obvious Palestinian
distress, my interlocutor said;
"There are people dying of hunger all around the world and
"these people" (whoever that might be) want us to focus
only on Palestine!"
Which basically translates to;
"I am using world misery as an excuse to justify Israeli crimes
against the native populations of Palestine."
Absolute hypocrisy. Most people simply don't think at all and
are driven either by basic emotion, or conformism to their
education, or the behavior of the rest of the herd.
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You're right, it is pretty useless, I'm not changing any hearts and minds but I can't stand to see the bullshit go unchallenged. I presume you understand why these Christian Americans support israel blindly? How a group of European zionist Jews paid a con man named Cyrus Scofield to corrupt the King James Bible in a way that would garner support for israel, the scam goes back a hundred years, even before the invention of israel, I guess it's what they call the long con. That's the Bible, the holocaust religion is a different kettle of fish that effects everyone. I don't blame anyone for buying into it, we're all conditioned from a young age to think a certain way, I guess it's easier to toe the line.
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In a sense Christians already commit an aberration
by taking hold of the old testament and identifying
with it. The content of the old testament was written
by Jews, for Jews. That Europeans or even Africans
believe to be the true Israelites just show how much
disconnected most people are from reality.
There was a time when Christianity was hostile to
Judaism, for logical reasons, but on the long run, Jews
managed to gain more power, wealth and influence
than the Christian church, to the point that today, the
church is merely more than a facade under their yoke,
masquerading as another religion. Christianity has
now become an appendix of Jewish power. Hence
the continuous promotion of Judaism, when in all
logical sense, they are supposed to be rival.
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I'll get back to you later. Busy right now
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