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KeYashu In reply to ippotsk [2015-01-23 16:52:46 +0000 UTC]

Oh man, thanks for this comment. Oh god.

I don't know a lot about my style, it's like, I don't have any opinion about it so what others think matters a lot to me. 
I didn't know my style was all that! I'm very glad you think so, thank you thank you!
I think it is a little messy and obnoxious x)

Oh, for April: the light is the only cool thing about it, it's pretty ugly i think. I'm happy to hear you say I know how to position my highlights, I have no basis: i do stuff on instinct x)
May is pretty cool, Idk what I did to those colors to make them look good. Brown isn't exactly an attractive color. 


Ahhhh for July I really really didn't expect myself to draw that...big thing
I was aiming to do a little doodle liek i do for all my other oc's bds
But there was a scenario inside my head, because I've been waiting for this guy's birthday for months since he's such a woobie who deserves a birthday; then idk how i drew that second panel, then i colored it...then it became a painting, then I just slapped the highlights on it even though i never draw with highlights
and
then blur
i
have no idea how i made that composition, I never drew something with so many people and this much emotion
I was shocked by my own work at the end ho   w
That OC is damn spoiled, for all the shit he endures in the story
thanks yoouuuuu i'm so glad you like this one since it's a little special TTvTT I guess it was one of the rare things i draw that  i actually liked a little about 2014.
How did i draw that
Dani gave me the power wow


Really?
You're not "affixed", you're an artist: you're free.
I didn't know you liked this kind of artwork.

(My last name literally means "big", little boy.
I ought to.)

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KeYashu In reply to Naseki [2014-12-16 13:31:47 +0000 UTC]

I trust it will keep on getting rougher. I can't paint soft with airbrushes and all, I really wish my paintings to look defined and bold while still retaining the substance of a painting, aka not using cellshade.

I'm glad you like it!

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Naseki In reply to KeYashu [2014-12-16 14:30:26 +0000 UTC]

I tend to go a bit too soft with my brushes, which I dislike a lot. But then, I haven't been painting for almost a year so I don't know how it's like now.

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KeYashu In reply to Naseki [2014-12-17 16:21:41 +0000 UTC]

I cannot be satisfied with anything less of a painting, so refraining from painting for year is a far off possibility to me. 

You'll never know if you never try and see.

The secret is in the settings. Find a nice brush on the internet, there's lots because SAI brushes are highly customizable.

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Naseki In reply to KeYashu [2014-12-17 18:54:52 +0000 UTC]

I feel rather dissatisfied because I rarely draw/finish my concepts. I wouldn't post a conceptual drawing when I haven't painted it though. I don't care about the "practises" as much, as they're mostly just focused on feeling more comfortable with drawing humans. I will only start painting when I'm proud of the sketch.

You're right, that's why I don't judge so soon.

I actually have pretty good brushes (Rae gave me his, I modified them. When he told me he got his tablet months ago, I gave him the modified, he edited the settings again. Lmao), I just use them the wrong way. Actually it's a matter of picking the right colours and not blurring them too much. Oh, and actually knowing where to place the shades. That's what I mean by "I tend to go a bit too soft with my brushes".

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KeYashu In reply to Naseki [2014-12-18 16:58:00 +0000 UTC]

Better start painting anyway--it allows you to improve in another field. Instead of feeling miserable about sketches until it gets better, focus on something else.
I personally don't feel..."proud", about any of the stuff up here. But it's cool, I can see my improvement, I'll keep on drawing even if I realize that I'm not getting any better in some specific fields. 

Hehe, I landed my main brush to Ippo too! the blocky one. I can't wait to see what he can do with it ;w; 
Well, idk where I put my shades either...I use my instincts and shrug///
Not blurring too much is a matter of brush sets, a brush that doesn't dilute the color too much and a square shape is favorable. 

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Naseki In reply to KeYashu [2014-12-18 19:41:43 +0000 UTC]

I actually did the opposite. Instead of being miserable about my colouring, I started focusing on sketches. Isn't that also a way to "improve in another field"? It's not like I only draw sketches all the time anyway, just this year because I wanted to focus on them for once and simply because I didn't have enough time to take art seriously.
I take pride in my improvement, so do I in my art. Being proud of something doesn't equal thinking it's good, in my opinion.

Yeah, I saw. I am about to test that brush because it might work well on me.
Oh no, it's not just the brush settings. Colours are really important too, and that's where I make my mistakes. In my past drawings I often used way so many hues to the point it blends (couldn't find the right word on my previous reply, so I used "blur" instead, sorry for the potential confusion) too much, similar to this .

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KeYashu In reply to Naseki [2014-12-20 12:20:35 +0000 UTC]

Well, that's what I was trying to say, sorry for switching things up.

I don't get your opinion (and i don't want to), but whatever floats your boat, ma'm. As long as you're productive.

I use art as a stress toy, and while I take a lot of time mentally preparing myself to start drawing a finished piece, once i get into it, I'll draw non-stop for as much hours as it will take. I either draw all or nothing. Usually, it's nothing.
I'm best at sketches because they're a fast spontaneous mess, but they're the one thing i'm proud of the less; perhaps it's because i expected a lot from myself in that field. 

That brush isn't mine, I found it, and the moment I tested it I called it magic.
It's a little tricky because it can get too blocky if you press too much, you have to make light brush strokes to blend more softly. I think it mixes colors pretty nicely, you don't have to pick hues from the wheel too many times.

What were you trying to do in the pic? I mean, to shade that green, you could take a purple for example. This brush blends well, so you don't have to pick a shade that is the same tint of the base.
Plus, using the same tint for shading and highlighting isn't so nice-looking,

Color+similar color+complementary color is a better combination
for ex green+orange+pink
like this the colors sound unrelated but you can actually make it work.
use the green for the highlights, the orange as a base and the pink for shading. The problem here isn't choosing the right shade of the color, it's about the right color itself. 

In this drawing, keyashu.deviantart.com/art/Hel… I used the exact same shade of different hues. It's tricky, but doable. All the colors here have the same amounts of black and white in them, none of them is darker than the other, yet it works. The trick is to find the right color to shade--the yellow here is shaded with pink, the pink with blue, the green with a bluer green, and if you look at the gloves, they are pink and shaded with green which looks odd i guess but it's not bad? 

Check some color palettes out, my feedback says I'm good at picking colors myself and coordinating them, but I still use ready-to-use palettes i find on the internet sometimes. 

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Naseki In reply to KeYashu [2014-12-20 13:43:31 +0000 UTC]

It's okay if you don't get my opinion. I would have loved to clarify though.
I've never known an artist who either finishes things or does nothing at all. It sounds tricky to me, but it seems to work well on you.

Could've gone with green and red instead but that takes too much time. But anyway, this is just an example. I actually picked 7 colours here while this brush is already able to blend.
Bad colour palettes (which is the first thing you noticed) and using too many shades between the two colours. Those are the two problems which I was trying to show to you. Hope that answers your question.

I have a whole bunch of colour palettes on my computer actually. I just don't know how to use them. Urges are harder to fight, but I'll try to go for more complementary colours.

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KeYashu In reply to Naseki [2014-12-22 14:46:57 +0000 UTC]

It's not really something optional. I am exasperated with my volatile attention span. I cannot commit to anything, its' painful to start things and loosing the drive to finish in the middle, so I am careful before starting anything. I try to think twice, anticipate.


Well, using too many shades between 2 colors...don' t use any shades? I mean that's what blending is for: creating the shades with the brush as you mix the two colors?

Also, red and green result in a nasty looking brown.  Not the best color combination in my opinion |D

Lets say I just don't really get what you wanted to tell me when showing me the example. This conversation is mostly one-sided.

Bad color palettes are a thing that can be solved. I wasn't born good at colors. I once stumbled upon a tutorial and I have no idea how I woke up the next day with a fine technique.

7 colors, isn't that too much? 

Using too much shades resulting in a monotone, muddy patty of color, is that what you mean?


Umh, I don't know the proper way to use palettes, if there's any! 
Well, try doing "lineless" drawings at first, like these: fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/201… (ps this isn't a lineless practice, it is a color theory/silhouette exercise.)
In my beginnings with ready-to-use color palettes, I also wondered how I could use those in a painting. I focused on building the drawing and using cell shade/lineless until I find a solution.

By "building the drawing", I mean defining where I'll be using said color and the balance of the colors together, aka which color will be more dominant...etc.
Imagine I have these colors : maroon, lilac, orange and cobalt.  If the character has light skin and no lightly colored outstanding clothing, I better leave the light lilac purple for the skin obviously. But if the character has light hair for ex, I can't make the skin of the face and the hair overlap, So I'll use the darker, not natural looking orange for the skin, and lilac for the hair, EVEN if the character doesn't have lilac hair, or orange skin.
You have to learn to do with the restrictions of the palette. If I want the cobalt to be the main color, I can use it for the character's coat if it's the biggest element in the drawing, or the background--I can make the two overlap, maybe. Maroon will be used for making details, drawing face features, etc.

Overlap example: fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/201… I used the red for the skin even though the skin is supposed to be lighter than the hair, but it looks cool so it's fine. And it has some kind of...symbolism? #okshot  

I like color palettes, they make you toughen as an artist, learn how to work with the little you have, look inside the meaning of colors and the moods they convey. 

This palette was particularly hard to use, because the colors are unrelated and very very light: fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/201… But at the end it worked out but I had to change the colors many times, so i advice you to use a different layer for every different color or different element!!! please!! so you'll have no regrets.

Annd for painting with color palettes, I very very recently found the way, finally.  fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/201… It's still not a painting but it has a paint feeling?


All my work with color palettes this year is here: sta.sh/252hqzv51jd All of these are OCs or my friend's OC, with whom I hold a close relationship.

If you have further questions, do feel free to ask.

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Naseki In reply to KeYashu [2014-12-22 20:52:35 +0000 UTC]

As long as I never intended to finish it in the first place (which is not uncommon at all), I'm actually fine with it... Other than that, yeah. It's painful.

... I already figured that solution out. I've only described the problem to you. I didn't intend to discuss this issue because... it's pretty clear what I should do.

Huh? Red and green are complementary colours. I also don't see how brown would be a bad colour for the two. *looks at own dA profile*
I've seen a whole bunch of red-green-other colour palettes on the internet (oh, and Christmas colours) and even you have used the two colours in your own art .

Also, define one-sided. I didn't even state an opinion in my example.

Yes, advice about colour palettes! I needed this!
Doing colour studies by starting simple is a good idea. Perhaps something I could do next year (along with drawing out my concepts AND finishing them). Thank you.

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KeYashu In reply to Naseki [2014-12-23 13:50:55 +0000 UTC]

Well,I'm glad you already found a solution.

Green and red, you sure?
I meant blending the two colors together. Using red to shade green isn't the prettiest thing, because it results in brown ,and brown is tame and dirty looking. Basically, it makes your pretty green and pretty red loose their shine. idk, brown isn't exactly the prettiest color: let's admit. It's perfectly uncatchy. It's not a bad color, but it needs other colors in order to look good. Brown doesn't convey a strong message, its' earthly, solid and consistent. 

Well, in that picture, there is no color blend. I didn't mean using the two colors together in a picture, nope, red and green can work together well, i meant blending them together. 

(I find "Chrismas colors" obnoxious.)

Also, I never saw your new profile, and it's really fucking good-looking. Woah. Teach me your talent. Wine is one of my favorite colors ever, it goes perfectly with the brown you used for the links, perfectly with the white, the yellow the neutral grey--in fact every other color looks good with it, so it was a good idea to make it the dominating color. Damn, wine is so pretty.

The table nape green/yellow backgrounds look good too, everything's in the spirit of homely Christmas. 

By green and red, I meant the basic G and R of RGB. 

(Thank you for checking out my work.)


^in this blank space used to be is my reply to "define one-sided". I choose to move on to the palette advice, because the reply ended up a block of text--said block of text being something far from the reply to your question. The block of text was something personal and tense. I choose to remove it a the last minute because I am awkward with you, and also because it wasn't an answer to your question and I doubt you would want to hear something unrelated instead of a proper answer. The block of text is saved somewhere in my computer. 

Color study.
By color study, I was trying to convey a specific mood or emotion to the viewer by choosing at least 2 colors and a character. I tried to give you an idea of what the character is like just using a silhouette and colors.  It's a personal exercise I braugh up, it was fun. I used a color theory chart for it though (the .pdf chart had a bunch of pretty colors and next to them a list of messages they might convey, negative or positive, depending on how you use them. It's for professional illustrators.) 

Color tutorials, this person has been the kickstarter of my improvement, AquaSixio . If you search for him on DA, his colro tutorials are the frist tutorials to pop up, because they are pure genius. 

aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/T…
aquasixio.deviantart.com/art/T…

You should check out his works of art.

I find using the meanings of the colors to your advantage is essential. Choose color,palettes using the feeling it gives you. If a color palette feels like a cozy evening on a couch, use it for such. If one feels like a fateful encounter in a classy hotel bedroom, use it for a character that may evoke such things. I don' t know how to send you that .pdf chart, it really is useful!

Don't hesitate to use palettes that appeal to you--if you're gonna work with it, you better like it. 
If you're unsure of your good taste, look for the most popular palettes--there's a reason they're popular. 

My favorite site for this stuff is colourlovers.com , you can also makes search for palettes with a specific color, or look through pretty colors the users picked for you to build your own palette.

Still need help with anything specific? 

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Naseki In reply to KeYashu [2014-12-23 16:30:04 +0000 UTC]

I completely misunderstood you. For some reason I was thinking about colour palettes, my bad. That brown isn't great at all indeed.
I also tried your blocky brush out and I realised that my brush's persistence was on zero, which is why my colours don't blend together at all. I fixed that now. So it WAS because of my brush as well.

I'm glad to hear that my profile looks good! I was afraid my colour palette wouldn't work. I really just like both wine red and olive-ish green and thought they'd go well together as complementary colours.

If you still want to give me that reply about being one-sided, you could do it in a separate reply (or even a note). I do want a real and clear answer to that question though. If it's because I kept disagreeing with you, I'm sorry about that. I didn't have a clear mind back there, to be honest.

The psychology of colours... I knew that each colour had it's own emotional vibe. I'll probably consider those more once I do something with colours palettes. Do share that chart anyway! It will likely come handy.
This artist seems to love orange-green and blue-purple a lot, hahaha. That "turtle" tutorial looks very useful. Mixing two monochrome palettes together and changing the colour balance on PS. Those are great methods. Thanks for showing me these two tutorials! Same thing to the website.

How do you finish artworks without being lazy? I have no questions, for now.

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KeYashu In reply to Naseki [2014-12-24 21:18:41 +0000 UTC]

Ahaha, well I'm glad you fixed it! thank you for trying out the brush.

Your profile is really classy. You sure have good taste in colors.

Truth is , right now I don't know what I'm thinking and I am 100% certain I won't be able to give you your real and clear answer any soon, sorry.
And, no problem (in response to your kind apology.)

Oh, I lost the link to the chart, so download it from my sta.sh.  sta.sh/0kziik5xk9j

Every artist has color crushes--mine are purple, red and blue.
Green and orange look delish together.

You're welcome, it makes me very happy to help you.
Don't hesitate to ask questions in the future.

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