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Description Part 7.

All of the Appaloosa patterns.

Part One: The Base Colors [link]
Part Two: The Cream Gene [link]
Part Three: The Champagne Gene [link]
Part Four: The Dun Gene [link]
Part Five: The Silver Gene [link]
Part Six: White Patterns [link]
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Comments: 35

RedPineapple1 [2013-08-12 15:16:37 +0000 UTC]

ive learned a lot from reading your Equine Colors series thanks !

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Kholran In reply to RedPineapple1 [2013-08-13 06:11:52 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! Glad it was educational!

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RedPineapple1 In reply to Kholran [2013-08-13 15:10:38 +0000 UTC]

:3

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anaiis77 [2012-10-22 09:29:55 +0000 UTC]

Fabulous!!~ Thank you!!

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Kholran In reply to anaiis77 [2012-10-24 02:58:13 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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nerwen-wilwarin [2010-03-16 12:49:34 +0000 UTC]

so, I have a little mare which has a snowcap. But is it a gene? I mean, is it something like Ee or AA or can't you say it like that?

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Kholran In reply to nerwen-wilwarin [2010-03-16 17:50:42 +0000 UTC]

Appy genes are pretty complicated and not entirely understood yet. The theory is that a horse first has to have the gene for Spotting (LP), and then on TOP of that have additional genetic coding (either an allele of the LP gene or another separate gene) for the particular pattern. There are a few sites out there covering Appaloosa genetics, but because of the lack of concrete info, I didn't put it on the reference

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nerwen-wilwarin In reply to Kholran [2010-03-16 17:54:30 +0000 UTC]

oh thanksBut I think I just leave it out or something. it gets so diffucultXD But how do you know overything about this genes and things btw?

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Kholran In reply to nerwen-wilwarin [2010-03-16 23:18:28 +0000 UTC]

I taught myself for the most part, and had a lot of help from JNFerrigno who knows this stuff a lot better than I do. In terms of genetics, Appy patterns are the most complicated. Everything else is fairly straightforward lol

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nerwen-wilwarin In reply to Kholran [2010-03-17 09:22:58 +0000 UTC]

Wow okay Happy that atleast somebody gets what those genetics areXD Im impressed

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Hypertail [2009-03-29 23:48:03 +0000 UTC]

we have a appy mare that looks almost like a fleebitten all over but has red ears and red from the knees down.what would she be

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Kholran In reply to Hypertail [2009-03-30 02:55:51 +0000 UTC]

Without seeing a photo, my best guess would be Varnish Roan, possibly mixed with Frost.

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FoxTrotGraphics [2009-03-05 07:44:56 +0000 UTC]

GREAT! Needed something like this!

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0live2ride0 [2009-02-18 22:25:03 +0000 UTC]

Great! This is going to help me, but one question, what does Homozyguos and Heterozyguos mean?

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Kholran In reply to 0live2ride0 [2009-02-18 23:23:41 +0000 UTC]

In terms of genetics, Homozygous means "two of the same gene" and Heterozygous means "two different genes". It's most commonly seen in relation to black and the pinto patterns.

A homozygous horse will pass on the gene no matter what. In other words, if you have a Homozygous black horse, that horse WILL pass on black to every single one of its offspring.

A heterozygous horse has a 50/50 chance of passing on the gene. Let me try to illustrate lol

A female horse is genetically XX (two X chromosomes), while a male horse is XY (one X, one Y chromosome). For the example, I'll use a female. If you have a homozygous black horse, she will carry black on BOTH X chromosomes, so XE XE. A heterozygous black only has one black, so XE Xe (small e is red, or chestnut). If you breed the homozygous mare, she has no choice but to pass on XE because that's all she has. But if you breed the heterozygous mare, she can pass on either XE or Xe to the foal.

Does that make sense? xD

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Groenew In reply to Kholran [2012-07-04 12:31:18 +0000 UTC]

What if a homozygous black horse (BB) breeds with a homozygous white horse (WW)?

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Kholran In reply to Groenew [2012-07-04 22:57:56 +0000 UTC]

So far there haven't been any known cases of a homozygous dominant white horse. It's believed that like Frame, it's lethal in homozygous form (the difference being that WW lethality happens so early in development that the embryo doesn't develop far enough to be born at all).

Although it could be possible, in which case the foal would also be white, or mostly white. The resulting offspring would be E-Ww. The - could be either E or e, since there's no indication of what the base colour of the WW horse is (eeWW, EeWW, or EEWW).

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Groenew In reply to Kholran [2012-07-07 11:30:54 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I see. Wonder why lethal though?

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Kholran In reply to Groenew [2012-07-08 21:22:41 +0000 UTC]

Just going on what I've read, the belief is that the gene might also serve another essential function beyond just coat colour. Then, the mutation that causes W also makes the second function not work right. So when you have a horse that's Ww, they have one 'defective' gene and one working gene- the working gene can pick up the slack of the one that doesn't work. But when you have WW, you have two defective genes, and no working genes, so the resulting embryo can't survive. As far as I know, that's just a theory and there hasn't been anything concrete saying that's *definitely* why, but it offers one explanation for it.

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0live2ride0 In reply to Kholran [2009-02-20 14:39:26 +0000 UTC]

Okay, now I get it, Thanks.

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horseluver8161 [2009-02-16 04:09:39 +0000 UTC]

Snowflakes!

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TeamRoper10789 [2009-02-12 03:56:28 +0000 UTC]

This was definitely helpful. Are you going to be making more of these? I didn't see sorrel or gray so I'm hoping you do ^.^

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Kholran In reply to TeamRoper10789 [2009-02-12 06:21:44 +0000 UTC]

Yep, I still have a few more pages to do, including modifiers (grey, sooty, flaxen, mealy) and markings (both leg and face).

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Setukas [2009-01-31 10:49:58 +0000 UTC]

Oh hey, these are really useful, I hope you donΒ΄t mind if I download them for future reference?

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Kholran In reply to Setukas [2009-01-31 17:59:13 +0000 UTC]

Nope, not at all.

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Setukas In reply to Kholran [2009-02-01 14:36:00 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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vixentheangryfox [2009-01-30 20:00:37 +0000 UTC]

What a handy series :]

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Kholran In reply to vixentheangryfox [2009-01-30 23:43:41 +0000 UTC]

Thanks I hope they turn out to be useful XD

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abosz007 [2009-01-30 19:39:13 +0000 UTC]

i didnt even knew about pinta-loosas xDDDD WOW

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Kholran In reply to abosz007 [2009-01-30 23:44:41 +0000 UTC]

Learn something new every day xD

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abosz007 In reply to Kholran [2009-01-31 00:04:43 +0000 UTC]

hehe true xD

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ghost-eye [2009-01-30 13:36:28 +0000 UTC]

Very comprehensive, thanks!

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Kholran In reply to ghost-eye [2009-01-30 17:57:33 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome

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AonikaArt [2009-01-30 13:30:23 +0000 UTC]

For sure it will be usefull for me

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Kholran In reply to AonikaArt [2009-01-30 17:58:00 +0000 UTC]

lol I hope they can be useful, even if it's just for one person XD

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