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Published: 2012-08-20 05:36:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 675; Favourites: 23; Downloads: 14
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Age: 24Height: 5'5"
Birthplace: Chicago, Illinois
Likes: protecting her kingdom, hanging out with her friends (which some include Kido, Brittany and Corps), sex, her boyfriend Max Desmond, seeing her friends and family happy, teasing her sister and cousins in a playful way, animals, parties
Dislikes: her kingdom in danger, people who upset or threaten her friends and family, Dr. Kain, evil in general
Well, this is the first of five requests/art trades completed. However, since I currently do not have access to Adobe Illustrator, I had to use MS Paint to color in the picture after scanning its outlines. One of these days, I will remake this with Illustrator and repost it up here.
My half of the art trade for of my OC, Ashley Davidson.
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Comments: 33
Okay, this is getting sad.
All of your art is exactly the same.
You always use the same facial structure with the same facial expression and generally the same hair with generally the same, boring poses with the same body types and of course every single figure you draw has to have no bottoms at all.
Could you not adventure a little and try something even the slightest bit different? A turned head? A different expression? A different type of eye?
All of your characters are extremely difficult to tell apart if colour was thrown out of the picture.
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Also, I believe it would have made a more sense if you have posted this comment on another picture of mine that exhibited this problem a little better. This is probably one of the only pictures that has a significantly different pose from my other drawings, as she is sitting rather than standing, along with this pic includes a background unlike most of the others, as well.
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Dude, okay, let me explain something about human perception:
Generally what people look at first in a picture is either the face of anything, that which shows the most contrast (Be it visual, symbolic, etc), or that which entices desire into the viewer. With your art, it has seemed to be the face which catches the most attention. And this is always the same with every single picture you've ever done. It's boring. It's stale. It's uncreative. It's sad.
The fact that the pose is different, even a little, means next to nothing if the focal point of the image is the same as the last which is the same as the one before it, and so on.
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Usually when people criticize my work, it's usually about the poses I use, rather than their facial expressions. So I believe that if anything, they notice that first. So far, only one person actually criticized my characters' facial expressions.
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So what?
The fact that they're criticizing the poses is merely because from what I've seen, all they care about is sex appeal. Something I've seen with your work seems to be all about.
This doesn't get an artist anywhere. It actually hinders them.
Instead of doing what an audience wants, why not do what they don't expect? Why not work on things that you yourself see wrong with a picture rather than thinking "Fuck it, no one will notice anyway."
Further, this isn't just about the expressions. If you could read between the lines, you'd see that this is about everything: Your poses are generic & stiff, your outfits are generic & missing bottoms of some sort, removing any sort of elegance to your work, your clothing never has any folds, weight or thickness and looks like it was painted on, the anatomy needs loads of work if sex appeal is supposed to be part of it (Sketch photos of naked women if you're trying to portray some sort of attraction; your characters don't even have genitals), you use the same body types for every single character you've ever done (There's more than a Barbie hourglass, I'm sure you're aware), you never draw males, when you do they're really basic, there's nothing dynamic about your work at all.
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*Sigh* Okay, so we all have our opinions about how my art is viewed, I respect that. Maybe one of these days, I'll pull a wild card out of my pocket that no one will expect, but I still like my own artwork, despite it still needs improvement. And besides, not everybody is going to like my art, anyway.
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I know people won't always like your work and that's fine, it's just that honestly this is one of the worst issues for artists to run into. Learning to apply dynamics letalone simple diversity to anything is a fundamental idea every artist should be able to grasp.
Further, a quote I had heard from an artist I look up to: "If you draw something, look back to it months, weeks, sometimes even days later and still like it, you're not working hard enough."
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I don't know about that. IF you do that and never like your own work, eventually won't that person give up because he or she will never become satisfied with what they do? Also, I really don't like the anatomy much on my older works, but I still look back to them sometimes to remind me how much I have improved since then, even if it's little.
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Well not necessarily, it's more how you take that dislike. You could either sit there and think to yourself, "Fuck this is awful, I'll never get anywhere with my work," or you could instead think, "Okay, this work has flaws. What are they specifically, how can I improve them, and how will this better my work for the people that want to see it the most?"
Besides, usually the artists that look back at their work and not like it usually look at the work they're doing currently and enjoy the process and sometimes the end result tied to it, even for that short moment. Small bursts of joy are still joy, after all.
Looking back to your past work is always a good thing to do, it shows you a lot about how much you've improved and what kind of ideas you had before. Sometimes I look back and skew ideas I had years back with ideas & theories that I've learned recently. It's a lot of fun.
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True. You know what, despite us not agreeing on how we view my artwork, we still had an interesting conversation, here. We'll if you don't like my characters, then you can always look at my scenery pictures.
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Yeah I like when that happens; it actually shows that people still have some basic communication skills.
I flipped through your landscape pictures, and they're okay. There's too many gradients and not enough texture, shadows, values, etc. Your sense of perspective also needs work. Sketch real photos of anything. It'll help you immensely.
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They're mostly to mimic 2D video game levels, though, like the Sonic series, my inspiration for them.
Now if you don't mind, I must be off to draw yet, another smiling, half-naked fox girl wearing stockings!
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Regardless, imitation artwork is really cheap. Do some more original work.
God, could you not be even a little creative?
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You mean with my scenery pics? Those ARE my own ideas, I was just saying the Sonic levels inspired me to make them, that's all. I didn't actually copy them.
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Imitation is more than having a reference and sketching it perfectly, it's taking nothing but the information from references by that artist of generally the same things and only using that for what you would make. I've seen loads of artists do this for characters and just be an imitation of some successful artist that they worship.
Creativity was regarding your figures.
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Wait, I wasn't talking about imitating others' work for my characters and partly using it as my own.
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You're getting mixed up. The imitation stuff was regarding your mimic work of 2D 16 bit landscapes.
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I see...anyway, I was using my own ideas for the scenery pictures. I was try to say that the Sonic 2D game levels inspired me to make my own scenery pictures, as well as little bit of inspiration from actual real life scenery and my own imagination.
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Hmm. Putting more of your own twist on it would be nice as opposed to trying to recreate a style an artist had developed on their own. I've seen those gradients used to try to simulate form everywhere. It's tacky and it doesn't sell the illusion of depth or form at all.
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Well again, we both have our own opinions about my artwork.
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You know what, I'll be honest with you, here:
First off, yes, my poses do seem to be getting stale, again, as they seem similar in stature. Facial expressions, yes they pretty much look the same, too. However, these things alone (although the poses pay a great deal to how my drawings look) do not entirely make all my drawings look exactly alike. Yes, I respect your criticism, but I also do think that saying they all look completely exactly alike is going a little bit too far.
As for the bottomless thing, that is a whole different story...
However, from time to time I will realize what I am doing here, and will try to break away from it, though.
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That looks incredibly nice, man! I've always wanted to see Ashley Davidson without any shoes on her sexy socked feet! Thank you very much for drawing this picture for me as well!
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I'm just glad you like it.
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Sure thing, man! I think you did an excellent job for a picture done in MS Paint!
Speaking of which, I have both of your pictures scanned onto my computer, and I will have them colored in as well.
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